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GOP Budget Plan Fizzles Amid Lack Of Details, Infighting, Mockery [UPDATED, NOW WITH CHARTS!]

First Posted: 04/26/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:10 PM ET

Budget Fail

House Republicans today made a big show about how they were going to drop their own brand-new alternate budget proposal, packed with urban-suburban hip-hop "flava" and dance moves Eric Cantor learned at the Verizon Center, watching Britney Spears. As it turns out, READY THEY WERE NOT, and so everyone is making fun of them, and it.

And look: I know that a lot has changed since that first, much-hyped-but-ultimately-detail-free attempt that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner made at presenting his bank bailout plan. You know...Watchmen opened, and we've all filled out our NCAA brackets, and that guy from American Idol who desecrated the corpse of Johnny Cash got himself a haircut and wasn't half bad on the teevee last night. And yet, I still remember Geithner, rightly getting criticized for a presentation that did not live up to the advance word that President Barack Obama himself put out on the street. The administration, quite rightly, took their lumps for suggesting Geithner was going to deliver the goods when, in reality, he was far from ready for prime time. And the GOP, fairly, led that chorus of criticism.

But for all the criticism, the Geithner lesson didn't seem to be a teachable one. And, as far as MSNBC's Contessa Brewer was concerned, she wasn't having it:

[WATCH.]

Later, Norah O'Donnell asked Mike Pence to provide basic details, to no avail. Pence continued to talk about details as forthcoming. O'Donnell sort of thought that having continually criticized the administration for projecting a long-term deficit figure, that it was absurd that the GOP couldn't even offer their own projection for the sake of comparison. Pence suggested that the very fact that the GOP plan was getting criticized constituted "progress." Uhm...not really.

Later, O'Donnell discussed the matter further with Mark Whittaker:

O'DONNELL: I had Congressman Mike Pence on just a short time ago, and I said, "You criticized the deficit numbers of the President's [budget proposal], what would be the deficit under your budget proposal," and he said we haven't come up with the numbers yet. Is this a serious proposal?


WHITTAKER: Look, this is Kabuki theatre at this point, because in the House side, Nancy Pelosi doesn't need the Republicans to get the budget through. And in the Senate, I think there's more and more a sense in Washington, that they're headed toward a legislative tactic called budget reconciliation that would allow them to pass the bill in the Senate...without a filibuster...I think that the Republicans are positioning themselves for 2010.

Well, if not Kabuki Theatre, it has at least been happy hour at the Chuckle Hut, as various figures on the Democratic side have tried out their best material at the expense of this budget plan. The DNC's Hari Sevugan was looking like he'd have the zing of the day with this statement:

"After 27 days, the best House Republicans could come up with is a 19-page pamphlet that does not include a single real budget proposal or estimate. There are more numbers in my last sentence than there are in the entire House GOP budget."

But that was before Robert Gibbs offered: "There's one more picture of a windmill than there are charts of numbers. And there's exactly one picture of a windmill."

But that's not the worst of it: Politico's Glenn Thrush is reporting that critics of this "blueprint budget" include Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan, and that the whole proposal is part of a Mike Pence ego trip.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) objected to an abbreviated alternative budget "blueprint" released today -- but were told by House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) they needed to back the plan, according to several Republican sources.


[...]

"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy.

"I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas," the person added.

Egads.

UPDATE:

David Weigel found the charts! Glory be!

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09:43 PM on 03/30/2009
The Republican "alternative" budget proposed by Boehner increases the deficit by $300 Billion a year over the President's budget: http://www.ctj.org/pdf/housegopplan20090327.pdf

When spending gets cuts to the point where we have a surplus again - then let's talk about tax cuts. Until then, just cutting taxes is nothing more than trying to buy votes.
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03:56 PM on 03/30/2009
It would be more comical if it wasn't so tragic - this was the same group that supported the previous president's agenda that has landed us into this mess in the first place. A group like that makes you feel perhaps a one-party state wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
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02:35 PM on 03/30/2009
John Boehner probably sees detail from the botton of a glass, he is such a sad man or he
thinks that American voters are STUPID.!!!!!!!!!!, NO!!!
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10:19 AM on 03/29/2009
Keith Olbermann is a stupid person's idea of a smart person. BL: if you take Keith serioulsy, know one takes you seriously.
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Le Panda
12:07 AM on 03/30/2009
same goes with hannity
03:23 PM on 03/28/2009
Boneroo 'What? Budgets require thing like numbers... and addition... and spreadsheets and... and.... why are you left winger reporters always so negative?'. Why didn't Steeleo tell me that in the last meeting? (Calling Sarah Palin!!!) Well we will do our homework and turn it in late... how about next Wednesday ok? OK? APRIL FOOL! lmao
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02:00 PM on 03/28/2009
oh the GOP, didn't have a say with Bush, Cheney, Rove, can't get it together because they are as corrupt and ineffective as AIG and BoA, Bank of America is as broke as the cabal of Globalist stealing our money and want "we the people" to bail them out, so they can pay themselves and pay off the debt they owe to others. That is Rich, it is time to lead and as the President said, "excess is out of fashion", why use Private Jets, when there is Public Transportation and that goes for the Generals in the Pentagon too, I am sure the Defense Industry days are numbered and it is welcome. Deal with the Banking , then Pharmaceuticals, then Defense spending, the US spends 700 to 1 trillion dollars per year on defense and the Pentagon is worried about the Chinese who spend $70 Billion, is this crazy or what. It is time to get common sense approach to public policy and governance at all levels from small business to federal and state. Leaders lead and for far too long we have elected incompetent people to do our bidding. NO, it is time to get people have have ideas, visions and common sense not ideologues to lead. DOWN WITH FACISM, REPUBLICANISM, GLOBALISM AND CAPITALISM IT IS A CORRUPT CABAL OF CORPORATE BUSINESS INTEREST!
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01:15 PM on 03/28/2009
Are these guys serious? It seems like they're actually TRYING to be fools.
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02:43 PM on 03/28/2009
I don't think they're trying, actually. It just comes naturally to them.
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03:21 PM on 03/30/2009
As Steele would say "It's all a part of the masterplan!"...lol. Or maybe I should just quote PeeWee Herman..."I meant to do that!!" LMAO!
10:56 AM on 03/28/2009
I used to think the GOP was going nowhere. I was wrong. They are going in reverse.
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09:41 AM on 03/28/2009
republican accountability is like kosher ham:you can talk about it all you like IT STILL DOESN'T EXIST!
03:31 PM on 03/28/2009
Kosher ham! lol dee-licious.
06:16 PM on 03/27/2009
The Party of NO, to the Party of Zero to the Party of We don't know.
I love it. The wheels on the bus go round and round will be their new theme song.
05:44 PM on 03/27/2009
They're actuall the party of we dunno
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
07:52 PM on 03/27/2009
Or the party of "d'oh"
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04:37 PM on 03/27/2009
I can hear Boener crying like a little b**** right now...
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04:16 PM on 03/27/2009
Indeed they rushed this non-budget it isn't April 1st.
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03:35 PM on 03/27/2009
The absence of any specifics is easy to notice at a first glance, especially when the only "numbers" in the document are (1) the GOP's proposed tax scheme and (2) numbers taken from the Democratic spending bill, cited by the GOP only in criticism.

What I notice a day later, about the few straight answers Cantor and other Republican Senators are giving is that they assert tax cut = good without offering any reasoning. A glance at the top marginal tax rates since 1913 [http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php] is enough to see that periods of five or more years with rates under 40% have preceded the Great Depression of the 1930s and the Bush/Gramm Economic Crisis of 2007 - 2009 (so far). To put it as kindly as possible, the burden of proof rests with them to explain why such correlation should be expected not merely to be inapplicable, but to apply in reverse, this time.
02:59 PM on 03/27/2009
Reporter 1: What is your goal for deficit reduction? The president's is to cut the deficit in half in five years. What's your goal?

Boehner: To do better.

Reporter 1: How? How much?

Boehner: You'll see next week...

Reporter 2: You criticized Democrats for throwing together a stimulus quickly where nobody knew what they were voting on. You're saying that your budget will be unveiled on the same day that the House is expected to vote on it?

Boehner: No, I expect it will be out next week. They're still working on all the details. But understand — the budget really is a one-page document. It's just a bunch of numbers...

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