New Rule Would Allow Banks To Choose Values Of Their Assets

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March 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

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The Financial Accounting Standards Board quietly buckled to banking-industry pressure last week and proposed new accounting practices that would allow banks to value assets at a higher price than they could currently be sold for.

Banks have long demanded the "mark-to-market" accounting rule change, arguing that it's unfair to require them to mark toxic assets down to current market prices because the very market for those assets is frozen.

The move marks a shift for Robert Herz, head of the FASB, who recently told a panel of lawmakers that the harshest critics of mark-to-market accounting practices have been the very same banks that have gone under when regulators would not let them adjust their accounting. Herz and other regulators have been under intense congressional pressure to reform the rules.

"I will tell you that I get calls and visits from some of those institutions that are now in government hands, about two weeks before they get taken over, trying to get the accounting changed," he said. "Clearly some of the most vocal opponents of fair value and mark-to-market have been some of those institutions that ultimately failed and have had to have billions of taxpayer dollars put into them."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that she's been consulting with former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker regarding the reform.

"I've talked to Mr. Volcker about this, who knows a great deal about it. And I think caution is important in it, but I think attention is necessary," said Pelosi in a brief interview with the Huffington Post.

She said that she's following the issue closely. "I think it has to be done with care. But we have to pay some attention to it because the current system is not working," she said. "It's the whole thing: If you mark it too low, what's the price?"

Volcker chaired a financial reform study that reported its findings in January (PDF). It came down on the side of reforming mark-to-market rules. "Fair value accounting principles and standards should be reevaluated with a view to developing more realistic guidelines for dealing with less liquid instruments and distressed markets," it recommends. "The tension between the business purpose served by regulated financial institutions that intermediate credit and liquidity risk and the interests of investors and creditors should be resolved by development of principles-based standards that better reflect the business models of these institutions."

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Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fl.), who quizzed Herz on the accounting rule, said that the demand to change the rules is "representative of exactly the kind of thing that's put us in this position in general...We have people who break every rule in the book and then they think that the answer to their problems is to break more rules. It's given us some real insight into the human nature and the pathology of the people who have created these problems for America."

If banks are allowed to determine the value of their assets without regard to current prices, investors have less trust and confidence in the integrity of their books and their assets, which could further freeze markets and further drive down prices.

The proposed FASB rule, according to a release from the agency, "provides a framework for measuring fair value and a definition of fair value that contemplates an orderly transaction between market participants, not a forced or distressed sale."

It goes on: "In the current economic crisis, many constituents have requested additional authoritative guidance to assist them in determining whether a market is active or inactive, and whether a transaction is distressed. Proposed FSP FAS 157-e would provide this application guidance."

In other words, if a bank asserts that the market for a certain asset is "inactive," then it need not write the value of it down to market prices. Critics such as Grayson insist this change would allow banks to continue a fiction of viability when in fact they may be insolvent.

"I think the real reason this has come up now is because a lot of the institutions are genuinely insolvent and don't want to admit it," Grayson said.

Treasury Secretary Timothy, testifying before Congress on Tuesday, expressed some support for the rule change, calling it a "constructive set of changes" that struck a balance "between preserving confidence in the quality of public disclosure, which is very important to getting through this, [and addressing] some of the complications of applying those standards in a market like we're experiencing today."

The public is entitled to comment on the rule change until April first. Comments can be e-mailed to director@fasb.org -- File Reference: Proposed FSP FAS 157-e. Or send snail-mailed Technical Director, FASB, 401 Merritt 7, PO Box 5116, Norwalk, CT 06856-5116, File Reference: Proposed FSP FAS 157-e.

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- Mahi Joe I'm a Fan of Mahi Joe 49 fans permalink

"...new accounting practices that would allow banks to value assets at a higher price than they could currently be sold for.

This doesn't seem right or above board does it?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/26/2009

Why did Enron collapse? Oh yeah, mark-to-market accounting, they were counting assets that weren't even built yet at what they would be worth by their erroneous valuations. I think the government should jumpstart some new banks, and let some failing ones die. That way they have direct oversight over who they give funding to make loans start to flow again, and weak or irresponsible firms leave the market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 03/26/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Just think, now they get to not only do what they want, they get to set their own prices too. Fantastic. Way to go Obama!! Way to carry on the Bush and Neo Con Ivy Greed tradition of screw they neighbor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 03/26/2009
- jhink465 I'm a Fan of jhink465 13 fans permalink

Obama? Do you even have a clue who and what he FASB is? Here is a clue. The FASB has nothing to do with Obama or the Federal Government for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/26/2009
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 92 fans permalink
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Same old stuff...banks have separate rules for themselves and another set of rules for everyone else. They are special and anointed by almighty God, haven't you heard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 03/26/2009
- iLLogicaL I'm a Fan of iLLogicaL 3 fans permalink

This whole fallacy of the market for these instruments being 'frozen' is repeated like a yoga mantra by the clowns we're supposed to have protecting us. The market isn't 'frozen', the guys who own this stuff just don't want to sell it for what the market is offering, which is pennies on the dollar. That doesn't mean they can't identify a price (as argued), but just that they don't like the price that can be identified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/26/2009
- OurKoan I'm a Fan of OurKoan 26 fans permalink
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Live by the balloon, die by the balloon. And if they change the rules, no doubt banks will stop valuing your home by comprables in a frozen market, so you can borrow, right? Sure. Pass the $15 glass of Kool-aid (I just determined its value).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/26/2009
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 97 fans permalink
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zactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/26/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 49 fans permalink

When prices were over inflated, did the banks raise their voices and say, "NO, we must be more realistic about these valuations!!!"

They were fine with that situation but now that the bubble has burst the bankers want to cheat.

Why would anyone trust these people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/26/2009

No, it's much simpler. There are $4 trillion in money-market funds and buyers, who will buy anything at the right price. M-L sold $30b in toxic assets for 24 cents/dollar in November, the banks will try anything and everything to avoid recognition of their fundamental insolvency, and the need to clear out shareholders and fire executives and board members.

I know people buying these toxic assets every day.

Now, the problem isn't to worry about the gov't owning the banks --- what is happening clearly is that THE BANKS OWN THE GOVERNMENT, and are ladling out trillions of citizen dollars to themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 03/26/2009
- jhink465 I'm a Fan of jhink465 13 fans permalink

Let me try a little common sense here. Trying to assess the true value of assets in the current environment is a fool's task. In real estate, valuations are based on recent sales of like properties, so called comparables. In this market, most real estate that is transacting is a stressed sale i.e. foreclosures, short sales and so called priced to sell. Much of this is caused by either fear of losing a job, fear of buying a property that can lose value or and perhaps primarily, the inability to obtain a mortgage. Under these conditions any attempt to mark to market would be based on price distortions that are outside the normal methods employed by real estate appraisers, tax appraisers and the mark to market accounting rules. Valuating real bank assets based on the face value of mortgages that are in default will of course overstate the value of assets as such. The idea that these assets have no value is absurd. It seems to me that a reasonable way to assess the value of real estate is the cost of building a like property. This would be a means of determining the intrinsic value of an asset until an active market develops to base a fair mark to market valuation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 03/26/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 49 fans permalink

That sounds like it might be an interesting solution.

What no one is talking about is the method banks want to use.

Clearly, the valuations need to be done independently,with no input from those scallywag bankers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/26/2009
- gd h I'm a Fan of gd h 8 fans permalink
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the real question is-why are we still talking about this? 1. There was Enron (mark to market accounting). ten years later, this. Mark to market accounting. Exactly who IS the FASB and why do they keep jamming this down our throat? PURE DENIAL. And those who supposedly are interested in accountability, where are they? Oh, they're Geithner, and the crew from the banks.

I hate to do it but I have to apologize to my young friend who said, on 11/6, that he thought it was just going to be the same old crew of bankers...21 years old and he's saying to me, having lived 40 years longer--I think you'll be saying "you told me so". I think I will too. I begged him to give obama a chance, and the man's made a fool of me. Thanks for the change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 03/26/2009
- Mach8 I'm a Fan of Mach8 35 fans permalink

I like your idea but what about areas where homes are old? There's a lot of wiggle room in your suggestion but overall its solid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 03/26/2009
- tel8034 I'm a Fan of tel8034 93 fans permalink

SHAME ON THE FASB BOARD, AND SHAME ON THE AICPA.

Instead of looking out for acounting integrity, and a true valuation of assets, as is ethically required, they buckled to the pressure of the same people who caused the financial collapse

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/26/2009
- NYC123 I'm a Fan of NYC123 6 fans permalink

F, the accounting integrity, the American public again is getting screwed. Assets must be priced at current market value not some fictitious pricing that favors the banking system. And that is exactly what will happen if they are allowed to value the assets themselves. Note, the banking elite have a mindset that cannot differentiate between greed and fair!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/26/2009
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

Imagine that you are comfortably paying the $100,000 mortgage on your house that you think is worth $300,000. Suddenly the bank comes to you and says that the real-estate market in your area has shut down and you cannot sell your house for anything. Therefore you need to pay off the mortgage immediately or they will foreclose. This the mark-to-market rule.

If the banks are allowed to set their own value on these assets, no doubt they will value them too highly. If we stick to the current mark-to-market rules the assets are valued too low. Is it wise to insist on either system which gives you an incorrect picture of the value of the assets?

Coming up with another system is no easy task. I have been told by someone whose business it was to put a value on assets that this is more art than science.

The accounting world is kidding themselves if they think just because a value is written down in black and white (and maybe red) that is the one and only correct answer.

Is it possible that the accounting world can bow to reality and admit that there is uncertainty in valuing assets? They need to figure out how one keeps business records when it is impossible to pin down the exact value of something. Coulld businesses be allowed to state a range of value? I don't know the answer, but clearly the current answer is not working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 03/26/2009
- opusprime I'm a Fan of opusprime 4 fans permalink

"This the mark-to-market rule."

You and your home are not a Federally sanctioned lending institution with a trillion dollar balance sheet, with the potential to sink the entire US economy.

Big swing and a miss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 03/26/2009

Amen - mark to market has created a boom bust type economy and quite frankly it is easy for anybody with an IQ over about 70 to understand why.

Now reinstate the "uptick" rule and we will be back on the road to recovery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 03/26/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 49 fans permalink

Gee, don't blame the accountants because the banks wild gambling and speculating has ruined the banks' credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/26/2009

I just spoke to the bank about refinacing my home. They gave me a home value based on market prices in a very frozen market and disqualified me. The only comps in my neighborhood are the forclosures. So my home is worth what the forclosures go for in a frozen market -- but they get to value those same forclosed properties higher on their books if this passes. How about tilting the rules in the consumers favor for a change. They get to stay rich in a market with no buyers for their assets while the rest of us go under. It is another example of what got us into this mess in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/26/2009
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

This is another way to put the situation I just posted about.

In this case the bank is only imposing rules on you that are imposed on them.

This is the very reason they want the rules changed. So of all people, you ought to understand the ramifications of insisting on mark-to-market in frozen markets.

The mark-to-market price ought to be defined as what a willing seller will sell to a willing buyer. If you put your house on the market and the only prices you can get are one third of what you think the house is worth, you can refuse to sell it at that price. Would it be fair to say that the one-third price was the market price when (almost) no one is willing to sell at that price?

In the case where you refused to sell there would be no sale, and thus no market price. Or do you think comparable prices should only be based on what people are offering whether or not the offers get accepted?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 03/26/2009
- opusprime I'm a Fan of opusprime 4 fans permalink

Game On! Let the fraud continue.

Welcome to the land of zombie banks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 03/26/2009
- CharlesJ I'm a Fan of CharlesJ 16 fans permalink
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WRONG!!!!!!!!! OR RIGHT!!!!!!!!

Depending on if your the banking industry, or the private sector that must live with the unmoral, greedy banking industry numbers. They have already proved they have no problems lying about the actual true value of assets. So what makes anyone believe that this will get any better under this plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 03/26/2009
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 63 fans permalink
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"The Financial Accounting Standards Board quietly buckled to banking-industry pressure last week"

Another one bites the dust....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 03/26/2009

Yes!!! Finally they are getting the picture!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/26/2009
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HAHAHAAHA this has gotten to the point of being funny. not you, fabulonica. This is worse than Bush because its all in the open and no one stops it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 03/26/2009

Some of these assets are undervalued?! Quel understatement. They're worth exactly zero and always have been. All anyone ever bought here was a completely hollow sales pitch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 03/26/2009
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