NARAL Slams Tim Kaine For Supporting "Anti-Choice Organizations"

Boston Globe:

The abortion-rights wing of the Democratic Party is none too happy today with a top leader.

Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia, President Obama's hand-picked chairman of the Democratic National Committee, signed a bill including state funding for crisis pregnancy centers, which abortion right advocates calls "anti-choice organizations."

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Comments

[MOregon]

The referencing article has no substance so will just comment.

Every religion on the planet has its Talibanesque factions, but to be fair, so does the pro-choice group. After all, does life begin in a petri dish? Why is it so difficult to applaud the good of the other side? Just once would like to see kudos to something good on its own merit. No choice is taken away here, and we do not elect leaders because they fit the mold of every constituent - an impossibility. We choose them for their integrity in the decision making process that garners the largest heart and commitment. Kudos to Kaine.

[lisakaz2]

Abortion Advocacy? Who's writing that headline? Talibangelicals?

[billva]

I am from Virginia, and I am not a Kaine supporter. I have met Kaine a few times and he is a very good person and has a great family. I hope he does not get very involved with national politics because that might ruin him. Virginia has too many license plates (over 200), but they are (I guess) a money maker. I believe his decision was based on the fact that Virginia already has social political licence plates such as "Friend of Tibet" and "Sons of Confederate Veterans." I don't think the state should be able to pick a choose what political statements to put on a license plate. You either have all or none. I wish we had none.

[Dupree]

As a born again Christian, I am pro-choice for I am of the conviction that it is fundamentally a personal decision that a woman should be allowed to make for herself..and it is in my own assessment perfectly consistent with God that seems to place a high premium on choices, after all, he did not make us robots but fully accountable for whatever our ultiimate decisions are. As one that fully embrace "pro-choice" ....I do not understand why other pro-choice people have a problem with the postion that the DNC Chairman took. In my estimation, pro-choice is not the equivalent of pro-abortion. Pro-choice in its true definition should recognize and respect choices...and that is the choice to choose life as well as aboriton..as dictated by the individual most affected...the pregnant woman. For those that consider themselves "pro-choice" and respectful of woman right to decide...just as Planned Parenthood caters to a philosphy that is geared to assist a woman that has decided to terminate her pregnancy...those that are of the opposite philosophy that will aid a woman who decides to have her baby....both are accomodating women in this very serious decision and choice. And I do not see why this position is so opposed by those that embrace choices.

[ev19]

The problem I have with your logic. You say "as dictated by the individual most affected". If you do not determine the fetus an individual - your logic stands. But I would argue the "individual" most affected is the one that ends up in the trash bag at the end of the day.

The word of the LORD came to me, saying, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart...(Jeremiah 1:4-5a).

Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all you who remain of the house of Israel, you whom I have upheld since you were conceived, and have carried since your birth. Even to your old age and gray hairs I am he, I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you (Isaiah 46:3-4).

[lisakaz2]

You assume these "crisis pregnancy" centers are known for their philosophy. I don't think that's so. Some unspecting women go there and are given a hard sell when they just wanted to know if the test was positive or negative. The lure has been that the test is free, reeling in typically college-age, unknowing women. I'd like to believe that they do know but that's not clear to me.

[swo68]

"As a born again Christian, I am pro-choice..."

You might as well call yourself a giraffe. You're about as much a giraffe as you are Christian.

[LeeCalif]

Hopefully, his career is history.

[ev19]

Interesting how the pro-choice lobby has issue with a license plate that states "Choose life"

[lisakaz2]

I think their complaint is that THEY are not extended the same option -- prochoice ppl cannot get a state license plate. If it was a level playing field, maybe they'd not care.

[Clemgo3165]

You have to apply for it, get signatures in support of it, and then get it through the legislature. I don't know whether or not Planned Parenthood has applied for it and I doubt they could get it through the Virginia legislature, but the opportunity still exists for them have one.

[plooger]

First, why is the DNC chair a sitting governor? Isn't there work to be done in building the Democratic Party that a part-time chair could not possibly manage?

And exactly who is an "abortion advocate"? I can just see it... "Hey there, sister, are ya pregnant? Can I interest you in one of these new-fangled abortions?"

[joeinvt]

Ask Rahm Emanuel.

[swo68]

There are enough women out there who will kill a baby just because it's inconvenient. There doesn't need to be an abortion advocate.

[Lillopa]

No one has been giving the "authority" over another one's life or what they choose.....all were given free will---good vs evil ....all the laws needed have been given--ten commandments etc and no one has been givenn authority over llaws they did not create!!!---------- we have the one who has given the law who has the authority only-- ---government is not our go d--we all have one go d and there is only one, we will one day answer to him only and no one else period. I am catholic--do not judge for you also will be judged--

[fredamae]

I am not an Abortion Advocate at all, but I am Pro-Choice.
........and, Like Obama, who is Personally against abortion, I choose Not to ever have an abortion.

I would Never claim nor Assume the "right" to choose for you, or Anyone else.

[plooger]

Seriously, that's my issue... who the hell is an "abortion advocate"?

[Bushed]

Well, freedom of speech and action appartently still means nothing to NARL. At least they're consistent as they are the worst enemy of rational discussion of a touchy topic. You know where to go, now go there.

[lisakaz2]

Where is THEIR ability to have a license plate? That's the point.

[JenMI]

"choice" advocates....no one advocates abortion.

[OliverTwist]

I'm "pro choice" and I can't see any information in the article explaining why some pro choice advocates have problem with funding for crisis pregnancy centers. The centers may actually be propaganda centers rather than information centers. But the article doesn't discuss what they really do at all. Too bad.

[LeeCalif]

Crisis pregnancy centers are TRAPS for women.

[MoonbeamMary]

Crisis Pregnancy Centers do not offer comprehensive counseling as in, these are your three choices; bringing your pregnancy to term and raising him/her, adoption or abortion. In addition to ultrasounds their offices are filled with pictures of bloody fetuses. It is altogether a coercive atmosphere.

[OliverTwist]

The HP headline reads "Kaine angers abortion advocates."

What is an "abortion advocate"?

I've heard about "choice advocates."

But I've never heard of "abortion advocates" except from right wing extremist misinformation.

Shame on HP.

[plooger]

Shame seconded.

[MarionWatts]

Kaine is a practicing Catholic.

[rain33]

he's catholic just like hypocritics from our congress..i like kaine but he needs to keep his personal views to himself.not now, dnc should be focusing on raising money not telling people what to do.

[chocolatecity]

Um...Kaine is a sitting governor. He can't just stop doing his day job because he is the DNC chair. Besides, what is wrong with a program that encourages women to seek alternatives to abortions? He's not preventing anyone from getting an abortion. I thought the goal was to reduce the number of abortions while still offering the choice to have one if that's what a woman wants to do. I bet no one in NARAL has ever had an abortion. You ought to just walk into an abortion clinic one day to see the look of guilt, and fear on these ladies faces that I saw when my wife (then girlfriend) and I made an appointment to get one. We decided to skip that appointment and it was the best decision we ever made. Women get so much pressure from boyfriends, parents, and friends, why shouldn't they be able to go to a pregnancy center who encourages carrying a child to term?

[DaCoach]

Here we go again. A politician is expected to toe the line or else. Heaven forbid we begin to accept that others are entitled to their own ideas.

[Dupree]

To: DaCoach:

I agree with you. Any extreme position taken by the pro-choice or the pro-life group ...becomes a stumbling block to all women that are entitled to be given real facts so that they can make a decision based on reality and truth. If a woman seeks an abortion...no amount of pictures is going to persuade her decision. If one do want to have a baby...an abortion literature will not persuade her to terminate her pregnance. Information from both sides of the spectrum is warranted and can assist one that is not sure which path to take ....and if each is in the business of simply assisting the woman in whatever her ultimate decision will be....it will be a helpful program...but to be afraid that a woman will not follow through on her abortion because she was showed an accurate picture of the developing fetus...makes one wonder what exactly is the intent of the pro-choice movements...is it designed to protect and preserve choices...or is it adopting the same tactics of the extreme pro-life movements and it has become a mission of another intent.

[MoonbeamMary]

The difference is that in legitimate family planning clinics like Planned Parenthood one is offered to see the ultrasound of the fetus. In other so called clinics that is thrust upon unsuspecting women/girls.