iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Webb Crime Bill Gets Unlikely Support

First Posted: 04/30/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:10 PM ET

Webb

Jim Webb stepped firmly on a political third rail last week when he introduced a bill to examine sweeping reforms to the criminal justice system. Yet he emerged unscathed, a sign to a political world frightened by crime and drug issues that the bar might not be electrified any more.

"After two [Joint Economic Committee] hearings and my symposium at George Mason Law Center, people from across the political and philosophical spectrum began to contact my staff," Webb told the Huffington Post. "I heard from Justice Kennedy of the Supreme Court, from prosecutors, judges, defense lawyers, former offenders, people in prison, and police on the street. All of them have told me that our system needs to be fixed, and that we need a holistic plan of how to solve it."

Webb's reform is backed by a coalition of liberals, conservatives and libertarians that couldn't have existed even a few years ago.

Webb's bill calls for the creation of a bipartisan commission to study the issue for 18 months and come back with concrete legislative recommendations.

Liberals, who for decades were labeled "soft on crime" by conservatives, crept out to embrace Webb's proposal. The bill was cosponsored by the entire Senate Democratic leadership and enthusiastically welcomed by prominent liberal bloggers. The blogosphere, dominated by younger activists, has been particularly open to calls for drug and criminal justice policy reform.

Support for the proposal has come in from the right, too. The Lynchburg News and Advance a conservative paper that publishes in the hometown of Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, weighed in favorably.

"America's prisons -- both federal and state -- are overflowing with prisoners. The United States has about 5 percent of the world's population; we have about 25 percent of the world's known prison population, Webb estimates," offered the editorial board. "Something, somewhere is seriously wrong."

Libertarian support for reform of the criminal justice system is a given, but some traditional conservatives back the plan, too, including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who is the ranking Republican on the subcommittee that will weigh in on the legislation, and Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Penn.), who is ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Conservative blogger Erick Erickson of RedState.com tells the Huffington Post he's open to Webb's bill.

"I think it is worth considering, particularly in the light of drug laws. It seems at some point people will realize, assuming we maintain illegality for drugs, that treatment is a far better alternative to incarceration," says Erickson.

He adds, however, "that reforming the criminal justice system is mostly irrelevant. First you've got to stabilize families, which will then lead to fixing the education system, which will then allow you to actually fix the criminal justice system."

Webb couches the effort in fairly straightforward terms. "Let's start with a premise that I don't think a lot of Americans are aware of. We have five percent of the world's population; we have 25 percent of the world's known prison population," Webb said on the Senate floor when introducing the bill.

"There are only two possibilities here: either we have the most evil people on earth living in the United States; or we are doing something dramatically wrong in terms of how we approach the issue of criminal justice."

Over the weekend, the family-friendly Parade magazine featured a cover story by Webb titled "Why We Must Fix Our Prisons."

Having moved mountains to pass an historic expansion of the GI Bill in his first two years last session, Webb has an unusual amount of credibility for a senator of such short tenure. "I believe we established a legislative prototype with the GI Bill which brought people from across the aisle together to build broad support for the bill," says Webb. "I plan to continue to apply the GI Bill prototype as we move forward in this newest legislative endeavor."

Obama's selection of Joe Biden to be vice president removes from the Senate one of the most vocal advocates of a hard-line crime and drug policy. Biden authored many of the laws that have led to the current prison situation.

Webb discussed his measure Monday on NPR's The Diane Rehm Show Monday, and the conversation was dominated by discussion of drug legalization or decriminalization.

"The reality of what we're doing right now is that all this incarceration has not stopped drug usage at all," said Webb.

Instead, he argued, chasing after drugs "has burned up so much of our law enforcement energy and money that we can't adequately focus on the areas that I'm really concerned about, a big part of that being transnational gang violence in this country. You don't have to go to the Texas border to see it. You can go to Fairfax County [in Virginia] and take a look at MS-13 and how they operate. So we need to take a holistic approach on this."

Caller after caller argued on behalf of legalization; Rehm noted that the subject is "always the first question." Webb didn't shy away from it. "It's a very real question. It's a very legitimate question," he told one caller, noting that the past three presidents and more than half of Americans have used illegal drugs at some point in their lifetimes.

"At some level, most people do enjoy their beer or whatever it is," Webb said. "On the other end of the rail, there is tremendous danger, particularly among young people, when you get to drugs, that we have to have some protections and some sort of education. There you have the question. It's a legitimate question. And the best way to deal with this is to put it in front of people who are going to look at all the ramifications of this and come up with something."

Ryan Grim is the author of This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS

Jim Webb stepped firmly on a political third rail last week when he introduced a bill to examine sweeping reforms to the criminal justice system. Yet he emerged unscathed, a sign to a political world ...
Jim Webb stepped firmly on a political third rail last week when he introduced a bill to examine sweeping reforms to the criminal justice system. Yet he emerged unscathed, a sign to a political world ...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 547
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (14 total)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ConnieInCleveland
One Lonely Voice trying to make a difference
11:37 AM on 04/01/2009
As more and more people hear facts, they are going to realize they were misled. . People are becoming informed and informing others. Facts really do matter. President Reagan was allowed to speak these words and no one around him told him, he was lying. He was not held accountable for a lie! He was not shamed for misleading with the help of a lie!

A LIE IN PLAIN SIGHT: “The Emperor Wears No Clothes” and no one told him.
"I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast" - Ronald Reagan

How could people speak up? They let people in power, lie in 'plain sight'. We could watch them say it, knowing they were lying and unable to speak. I referenced it, "Silenced in America, by an American 'Czar'. It changed things. It worked to the point, people in power could lie in 'plain sight'. It started in the war on drugs and has progressed throughout government. No one is held accountable. We just move along. We have turned into a move along society. 'Nothing to see here, move along and we do'.
05:13 PM on 04/02/2009
The Emperor doesn't only wear any clothes when it comes to past and even present attitude towards cannabis, the Emperor doesn't have any!
The simple fact that the war on drugs has been a failure should have been obvious long time ago. Now, however, with the economy in shambles this failure is getting the attention it deserves. A good way to start would be to admit that drug addiction is a disease and not a crime. It would also help if from the President on down, for those in government to admitt to the failed war on drugs and admit to the fact that the facts themselves have more often than not have been skewed to continue this folly. Senator Webb, I believe has the right ideas and he obviously has bi-partisan support. Let's hope that the President's admonition from his inaugureal address wil be taken to heart. >>“The time has come to set aside childish things…The stale political arguments no longer apply…......eliminating “dogma” that has for too long held a stranglehold on policy." ; the President's words need to be listened to and followed in this and all other issues, for otherwise they are doomed to failure as the past has proven. That bincludes legalization as prohibition is the driving cause for the rise of the cartells.
10:47 AM on 04/01/2009
Legalization of marijuana could help bring our nation out of it's economic crisis with proper taxing and laws. Legalizing cannabis/marijuana/hemp so that the government can regulate it, tax it, and put age limits on it will create millions of new jobs and a multi-billion dollar green industry right here in the U.S.
Please take a moment to read about this important issue, and join me in signing the petition "Legalize marijuana and end the senseless "War on Drugs'". It takes just 30 seconds, but can truly make a difference. We are trying to reach 1000 signatures - please sign here:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/26/legalize-marijuana-and-end-the-senseless-war-on-drugs

Once you have signed, you can help even more by asking your friends and family to sign.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Jeany
Woman w/ Pitchfork
09:55 AM on 04/01/2009
This is the other side of Obama's terse response to the drug question the other day. Contrast the political optics of declaring that we need to stop the war on drugs in order to establish another sin tax/revenue source (toke to bail out the government) with the debate we'll have based on Webb's legislative initiative. The latter puts us on track to have a debate on the primary issue.

I don't think we can end pot prohibition without being prepared to treat addiction as a public health issue.
01:40 PM on 04/01/2009
This prohibition MUST end. Have we learned nothing?
After 72 years of cannabis prohibition, over one trillion dollars wasted on the quixotic war on drugs, after enabeling the drug cartells to get filthy rich and ammassing enough firepower to overthrow a chunk of their country - 80% of which come from the US - and cannabis becoming the nation's number one cashcrop - according to the govmt. - you suggest that prohibition must continue???
First, cannabis is not nearly as addictive as made out by prohibitionist, second it is not the gateway drug as advertised, it does have many medicinal applications and is never fatal. Look at alcohol and cancerettes who are inheritantly and infinitely more dangerous and legal. After all, alcohol at one time was prohibited and taht prohibition only gave rise to organized crime. The same is true with cannabis. And yes, over seven decades of lies and propaganda are hard to overcome, but one thing is for certain. Legalization, fair taxation and sensible regulation are the only way to deal with this.
As far as treating those addicted to dangerous drugs should have been done on a large scale to begin with. Treating cannabis addiction is impossible, as it is not addictive!!!
11:07 PM on 03/31/2009
Everyone in agreement with Webb's position that we should reexamine this soul-sucking, money losing War on Drugs should write to their elected representative showing support to Webb. It is far past time for a commission to investigate this mess. Kudos to Webb, and kudos to Ryan Grimm for writing about this crucial issue.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
06:55 PM on 03/31/2009
I disagree with many of Webb's positions, but in this regard he is 100% right on the money. If by some miracle this gets traction and we get reform I will be elated.

I've never done drugs personally, but it is shameful that we place people in prison for personal use of illegal drugs. Fine them, give them treatment if you must, but don't waste our resources imprisoning them.
09:42 PM on 03/31/2009
nuclearmonkeys,
I misread your answer and posted too soon, my appology to you,
greg
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Dwight5
06:45 PM on 03/31/2009
Mister Webb Goes to Washington.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Dwight5
06:10 PM on 03/31/2009
Once again, we have Diane Rehm confirming what we have seen over and over again every time this subject is raised - it's always the first question, proving that Americans are sick of drug prohibition and the attendant waste of taxpayer dollars and law enforcement resources, the corruption and violence it engenders, and the destruction of lives and families that results from imprisonment. This is what Americans care about. It was the #1 issue on Change.gov before Obama took office, it was the #1 issue at Obama's webcast town hall meeting last week, and now we have Rehm telling us it's still the #1 issue now. The Drug War destroys respect for law and authority and assures that every child in America can buy any drug they want , in school, any time they want.
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
myke3000
Facts are stubborn things...
05:01 PM on 03/31/2009
President Webb - 2016.
03:43 PM on 03/31/2009
Jim Webb: A macho, combat veteran from the 1960's who wants to reform the drug laws. And opposes the Iraq War. Joe Biden: Got deferments during the 1960's, authored a lot of the 'get tough' drug laws, voted for the Iraq War. The contrast between the two men couldn't be more stark. Of course, in our country, people prefer Bush over McCain, Bush over Gore at the Supreme Court and Bush over Kerry. Too many people think that the Vietnam Vets are losers. Well, guess what: They know everything. I learned a lot from them. We could all learn a little from Jim Webb, instead of people like Bill Bennett and Joe Biden.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
munsell10yr
05:12 PM on 03/31/2009
Obama offered him the VP slot and Webb didn't want it.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Dwight5
06:11 PM on 03/31/2009
Good. He's much more effective in the Senate. Let him run for the top spot in 2016, if we still have a country.
03:35 PM on 03/31/2009
Jim Webb is setting the bar very high for politicians in this country. He is willing to challenge those who perennially mine these grounds for votes and ratings. He seeks to defend and salvage those who engaged in self destructive conduct, but are otherwise devoid of a criminal mind—at least until their introduction to our penal system.

The statistics he cited speak for themselves. However, the disparities rampant in our criminal justice system touch deeper issues of race and socio-economic class. The growth of this system following the 1960’s Civil Rights legislation, and drug laws of the 1970s’ appears to be systemic. The results of which are repugnant to the principles upon which our country is based.

Jim Webb is showing the type of courage that we have come to associate with our military heroes. But in this era of change it is still hard to imagine who will stand beside him. His is indeed an act of courage--against his own self interests--as he has dared to take a critical look at it; and to believe we are morally obligated to do better.

At this moment in history we have a thinking administration. Perhaps we can recycle much more of our human capital along with our other pragmatic yet socially conscious solutions. If the issue can be framed in the broader context of our current climate of positive pragmatic change; he indeed could become a champion, in the truest sense of the word.

rchazr
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
rob2007
03:28 PM on 03/31/2009
Huff editors: you shouldn't have to scroll to the bottom of the page to reach this story.
photo
kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
01:50 PM on 03/31/2009
Webb '16
01:24 PM on 03/31/2009
We should move drug addiction from a criminal offense to where it belongs as a heath care issue. A certain percentage of the population is going to use drugs no matter what the consequences, we need to deal with these people in a way that allows them to get the drugs they need, and will get somehow, and protect society from being targets of drug addicts. Incarceration of non-violent drug users are clogging the courts and overflowing our prisons, we need to de-criminalize the possesion of small quanities of Marijuana.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Dwight5
06:19 PM on 03/31/2009
Granted, it's a step in the right direction, but if you decriminalize small quantities without legalizing and regulating the whole market, where will people get it? Decriminalizing small amounts is not going to unclog our courts and prisons. Only full scale legalization, regulation, and taxation will do that.
04:42 PM on 04/01/2009
Decrim is just another bandaid, guaranteed to open a whole new can of worms, simply by opening too many grey areas and interpretations, while failing to address the economic benefits and tax benefits for the States.
05:19 PM on 04/15/2009
Check this out - this guy makes so much sense.

Judge Jim Gray Part 2: 5 Reason To Decriminalize Marijuana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meciIVRznyU
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Whatashame
01:16 PM on 03/31/2009
The prisons in America are privately own and therefore by convicting and sending people to jail it keeps the prison system running and making profits.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Mikeeee
Did you forgive god today?
02:52 PM on 03/31/2009
But costing you a large amount of money for no gain in the problem.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Dwight5
06:22 PM on 03/31/2009
Not all prisons are privately owned, but even the ones that are run by the government rely on fresh bodies to make money. They get $$$ for every prisoner and spend far less than what they receive, so public or private, it's still the same thing - it's a business.
12:58 PM on 03/31/2009
The Lynchburg News & Advance is my paper. They are actually kinda moderate in general, but anyway, I read that editorial and it was definitely in favor of prison reform, which I think most people are in favor of.