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Lobbyists Fight Back: Accuse Obama Of Demonization, Suggest Lawsuit In The Offing

First Posted: 05/01/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:10 PM ET

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A strange bedfellows coalition of non-governmental organizations is pushing back hard against one of the Obama administration's most stringent ethics policies, declaring it counterproductive and possibly unconstitutional.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the American League of Lobbyists (ALL) hosted a conference call on Tuesday to persuade the president to reverse a rule that bars executive branch officials from having phone or face-to-face conversations with registered lobbyists on matters relating to the stimulus. And while, on the surface, the effort seems at odds with the prevailing winds of public opinion, legal observers say that, at least in a court of law, the groups have a case.

"My hunch is that they will lose their lawsuits," said Tom Gerety, a constitutional law professor at New York University. "But it is a shrewd move on their part and a constitutionally valid move."

Certainly, the Obama administration's policy has touched a sensitive nerve within the lobbying community. In an email sent last week to fellow lobbyists, Dave Wenhold, President of ALL, made the rather dramatic case that he and others were being discriminated against and demonized, illegally.

"As you know, over the past two months there has been a constant barrage of attacks on the lobbying community by the new Administration. As President of the American League of Lobbyists, I want to assure you that the Board of ALL is continuously dealing with these issues, analyzing options and responding aggressively to these attacks. The latest Executive memo... strongly limits our rights to not only serve our clients, but also our fundamental right to equally petition the government.


We have heard from many concerned members who are outraged about this latest exclusion and feel that the rhetoric and demonization of the profession has simply gone too far. There is an emerging pattern of industry segregation, discrimination, and actions that skirt the boundaries of our Constitutional right to simply "do our jobs." Enough is enough!


It is time for the lobbying profession to come together and fight back against these industry-specific attacks and demonstrate that the lobbying profession is an integral part of the solution; not the problem."

CREW's participation in the call adds another interesting element. The good government organization, while not rigidly anti-lobbyist, has produced some of the hardest hitting reports about the seedy underside of influence peddling in D.C.

In this case, however, it seems that they too believe the White House's ethics policies have gone a bit too far. At issue is an Executive Order issued by Obama's chief counsel, Greg Craig that limits to written communication the ability of executive branch official to communicate with a lobbyist on the stimulus.

"An executive department or agency official shall not consider the view of a lobbyist registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995, 2 U.S.C 160 et seq., concerning particular projects, applications, or applicants for funding under the Recovery Act unless views are in writing," reads the law. "All written communications from a registered lobbyist concerning the commitment, obligation, or expenditure of funds under the Recovery Act for particular projects, applications, or applicants shall be posted publicly by the receiving agency or governmental entity on its recovery website within 3 business days after receipt of such communication."

Lobbyists and others contend that the language is overly restrictive on their ability to petition the government and denies the administration "expert" voices on specific topics. Whether the executive order is unconstitutional is debatable.

"There is no question that this is discriminatory, but there is good discrimination and bad discrimination," said Tom Gerety a constitutional law professor at New York University. "The difficult issue here is whether this is necessary and justified or whether it is excessive and an overreaction... So the question in my mind is: is this a kind of imposition on the freedom of lobbyists to have contact with the officer of the government, is it a burden on their free speech? I guess, my own view on that is that it seems that it is an imposition. But it seems like the issue of transparency outweighs it."



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12:55 PM on 04/01/2009
And who said that the pot can't call the kettle black! Lobbyists using the ACLU is the utmost in hypocrisy.
10:08 AM on 04/01/2009
And another thing, READ TO COMPREHEND!!

Only Executive Branch officials are covered by this Presidential memorandum. Lobbyists can still petition the Legislative Branch, so where's your big victory over the "Bribery and Corruption"??

Nowhere to be found. Change you can believe in.
10:00 AM on 04/01/2009
What is with all of the comments below? "Lobbyists asking for OUR money"???

Where did that come from? You mean like teachers unions requesting provisions for a pay increase, or new facilities?

Maybe you would prefer that all infrastructure go to the newest suburban developments, and the urban areas be left to crumble?
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mendelcrosses
11:32 AM on 04/01/2009
The article and the letter itself is still up for you to read. It didnt say they shouldnt petition,it says,do so in writing so theres a paper trail. That way the public sees what everyone is doing.

What is bad or unfair in that? if someone wants your money,arent they supposed to communicate with you? They want the taxpayers money,so Obama says,speak directly to the taxpayers. Isnt that common sense?
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mendelcrosses
07:30 AM on 04/01/2009
They really underestimated Obama. They thought the would be able to F**k up the country then pin it all on the Obama saying,ahh he is or was the president. Well Obama is taking evidence everyone would be able to see and make their own judgement.

Obama does not want to play the washington game better,he wants to put an end to the game play in washington.

He will never have to be courting the media to explain himself,if everyone already knew what has been going on. Thats why he wants the people to be uptodate on everything as they unfold.

If he doesnt do so,then in four years time,he will spend all of his time coutering karl Rove's,O'Reilly,Hannity's lies and distortion and deceits
10:05 AM on 04/01/2009
hmm... Obama is a liar who has already gone back on campaign promises to not let any lobbyists into his administration or his campaign.

The ACLU, NAACP; teachers, autoworkers, nurses; these groups require lobbyists to petition the government to meet there needs and it is their Constitutional right to do so.
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mendelcrosses
11:37 AM on 04/01/2009
Obama is not a liar. It isnt his fault that its almost impossible to find anyone with ability in America that had not been corrupted before.

He is simply picking getting out the most of what America has. Its like Havaard,they only want straight A students,but should there be no straight A available to chose from,they wont close the campus,they will move lower to say B students. But that would not be a reason for you to suggest that,because they dropped from A to B already,they might as well just accept the U(U is useless,by the way) students.
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mendelcrosses
06:36 AM on 04/01/2009
A strange bedfellows coalition of non-governmental organizations is pushing back hard against one of the Obama administration's most stringent ethics policies, declaring it counterproductive and possibly unconstitutional.
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Thats one of the funiest things I have ever read. A ban or push against Bribery and Corruption(Lobbying) is unconstitutional?

Woow!
09:51 AM on 04/01/2009
Do you have any understanding of this issue?

Lobbying is not synonymous with bribery and corruption. Do you believe that the ACLU is a corrupt organization that bribes officials?
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mendelcrosses
11:39 AM on 04/01/2009
Lobbying is what the Developed world refers to with respect to the 3rd world nations as bribery and corruption.

Now you seperate those 2 let me see. In both case,its a handfull of people with money,buying favours out of politicians.

Why is it bribery in 3rd world and lobbying in developed world?
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sandan
I am a 80 yr old military retiree
05:39 AM on 04/01/2009
I believe there was a typo in the begining of this articlel The acronym CREW should have read SCREW, Sincere Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
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keepemhonest
02:12 AM on 04/01/2009
This is not discrimination ...

"All written communications from a registered lobbyist concerning the ... expenditure of funds under the Recovery Act for particular projects, applications, or applicants shall be posted publicly by the receiving agency or governmental entity on its recovery website within 3 business days after receipt of such communication."

Why don't lobbyists want to post their request for OUR money publicly? Do they have something to hide?

It is not discrimination. It would be if say, I could go ask for money, but they could not. I can't and neither can they.

DUH.... But I do hope & pray they take it to court.
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keepemhonest
02:05 AM on 04/01/2009
Lobbyists can "petition" the government - but just as MY senator does not answer my phone calls - there is NO constitutional provision that the government officials meet face to face or via telephone with lobbyists ... take it to court ... PALEEZE take it to court. Be done with the group once & for all!
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sandan
I am a 80 yr old military retiree
05:42 AM on 04/01/2009
Right on citizen! They need to be ousted!
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treetracker
01:55 AM on 04/01/2009
"equally petition the government. " That IS the problem - we the people are not EQUAL to the lobbyists. They wield much more power than the average citizen. We the people need to file a counter complaint alleging lobbyists have more influence than we and, therefore, their influence is unequal to ours. Let them chew on that for awhile....okay ACLU - where are you on that? Should not the rights of the citizens of this country to lobby their government be EQUAL to their right? And since we don't have the money they do to donate to PACs, that should be prohibited.
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keepemhonest
02:14 AM on 04/01/2009
Hey, if the lobbyists can go ask for our money ... why can't I ... that WOULD BE discrimination.

But, since I can't go ask for any of the money for my profession - which I am an expert on - they should not be allowed to either ... not discrimination.
02:49 AM on 04/01/2009
And I know a guy who can't read and write, so then, under your rubric, it should not be required, but be prohibited that lobbyists submit anything in writing, n'est pas?

And then, lots of people don't have the internet yet in the US, I hear, so how dare they post it there?

I, too, think that all Americans have the right to learn how to read and write, and further, they may just have the right in these days to internet access, and for all I know, you may be right that all Americans have the right to have the same amount of money and influence as all other Americans.

But if we wait till then, nobody will be able to petition for anything, gaga...
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12:55 AM on 04/01/2009
Sam,

Send them my name for the jury please, if this thing goes to court...

I'll be more than happy to serve...
serena1313
Condemnation w/o investigation is hgt of ignorance
12:51 AM on 04/01/2009
I think what most people reject is the huge amounts of corporate money used to influence our politicians, shape legislation and in some cases actually write it. Obama is trying to do the right thing, by lessening their influence, however, it does not address or solve the problem.

The larger issue has to do with campaign finance laws. It has become enormously expensive to run a campaign. Decadent amounts of money are needed just to compete. Once elected, on day one, their time is consumed with fund-raising for the next campaign. Publicly funded campaigns would: 1) free up the time law makers spend raising money, 2) loosen corporate influence, 3) less chance for corruption 4) allow a more balanced approach toward public interests and business interests -- in other words it puts everyone on a level playing field. And it solves the discrimination complaints.

Additionally it removes the obstacle for people who are interested in serving the public, but lacked the extravagant resources to run for election.

Reforming campaign finance laws is a necessary step to take if we want to take back control of how our government operates. It won't eliminate lobbyists, but it takes the money out of the equation.
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Davwbaird
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10:34 PM on 03/31/2009
I wonder if those folks ever heard of hearings or of the Internet where we are asked to support all kind of stuff, it seems like trying to influence but suppose they exclude that and congressional hearings.

I have testified as a background to Ryan White AIDS bill, the gathering of information in how to get services and prevention to those who needed it. That process continues to this day.
10:19 PM on 03/31/2009
The poor babies, they can't pay their people in congress and get what they want. They have helped Washington put us in a hole, and now they want to sue. Well sue cry babies, you won't get any where with it. ha ha ha ha ha
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ChiGuy
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10:16 PM on 03/31/2009
Scrw the lobbyists!
They are one of the primary reasons our country is in the condition it is today.
They wield enormous power and influence in D.C..
If they can't be eliminated altogether, at the very least, they need to be put in check.

(And before anyone decides to "remind" me......Yes, yes, I know that there are lobbyists that work for good causes. But he highest paid, the most effective, the VAST majority, work for major for-profit corporations seeking favorable legislation and contracts, regardless of the negative impact they might have on people or the environment.)
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propitiousmoment
the journey is the destination....
09:57 PM on 03/31/2009
Kind of embarrassing if they had to put their quid pro quo proposals in writing on a website for everyone to see. I can see how that would cramp their style, poor babies. I hope they lose their lawsuit, and I hope the administration stands tough on this one. Change we can believe in!