Dems Investigating Bush Administration Role In AIG Collapse

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April 1, 2009 02:18 PM

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A House oversight panel is investigating the role Bush administration officials and regulators played in the collapse of American International Group. The first step of the investigation begins Thursday, House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Towns (D-N.Y.) tells the Huffington Post, when the committee hears testimony from former AIG CEO Hank Greenberg.

In November 2004, the Bush Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission agreed not to prosecute AIG for allegedly helping companies fudge their books. In exchange, AIG agreed to host a government-appointed auditor in company meetings. At the time, Greenberg said it brought "finality to the claims raised by the SEC and the Department of Justice."

Towns said that Greenberg should be able to identify Bush administration officials involved in the decision-making around the settlement. Towns added the committee wants to know what Bush administration regulators knew about AIG's credit default swaps and other highly risky positions that brought the company down.

Asked if he would be directly pursuing Bush administration officials, Towns said: "No doubt about it. That's the reason I want to talk to Greenberg first. He might even point some folks out. That's of great interest to us."

Towns said the committee will also examine the AIG collapse to determine what legislation might be needed to make another occurrence less likely. Greenberg stepped down in 2005.

"The committees have not talked to Mr. Greenberg. They've only talked to Liddy" -- AIG's current head Edward Liddy -- "and Liddy has basically said, 'It was Greenberg's problem,'" Towns said.

"You can't have an investigation just moving forward. You have to look back as well. And that's what we're doing," said Towns.

The Bush administration's preferred way of dealing with corporate scandal was to defer prosecution. The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Bush prosecutors made 103 deferred and nonprosecution agreements with U.S. companies between 2002 and 2009. While Clinton was president, meanwhile, only 11 such pacts were entered into.

Criminal charges could result from the investigation, Towns said.

"All kinds of things could happen depending on what we find. And we're looking," he said. "Our eyes are wide open. Wherever the road leads us, that's where we plan to go."

A House oversight panel is investigating the role Bush administration officials and regulators played in the collapse of American International Group. The first step of the investigation begins Thursd...
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- Pete2069 I'm a Fan of Pete2069 22 fans permalink

This shows that they have no intentions of investigating Bush and his administration for their other criminal practices on torture , treason and other crimes..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/02/2009
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It's chess. Watch and see....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/02/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 40 fans permalink

It's football. There needs to be more action. The clock is running.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/02/2009
- essbird I'm a Fan of essbird 21 fans permalink
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Maybe soccer. Two long periods of running around, culminating in a 1-1 tie and a free kick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 04/02/2009
- probo I'm a Fan of probo 235 fans permalink
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I hope you are right, Break, cause I voted for President Obama and if he lets these crimes fall through the cracks, he will be an accomplist to them. I sure hope he is not just another politician who takes the safe way out for reelection, I think we , who worked hard to get him elected, would not so eaisily forgive him for not really fixing the root of so many of our problems, corruption, no matter which party is at fault. We need to keep the pressure on, that said, it is very early in his term, I can be patient for now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 04/02/2009
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First things first, let the guilty sweat a little. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 04/02/2009
- destruct1 I'm a Fan of destruct1 7 fans permalink

ah....thos­e pesky facts....p­roof....ev­idence....­..so hard to overcome when your a lib.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 04/02/2009
- mccabe49 I'm a Fan of mccabe49 5 fans permalink

proof ? facts what what you know about those rightwinger? try to tell mt that bush and his cronies ie ohil graham did not cause this mess through deregulation. We the american people are sick of the lies and the spins from republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 04/02/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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Leahy Bails on 'Truth Commission' Plan
By Charlotte Dennett | Consortium News

So now, it seems, the wrecked economy – complements of the Bush administration -- is becoming the excuse for congressional inaction after eight years of unremitting malfeasance by the Bush administration.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 04/02/2009
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Perhaps that why the Bush admin actively wrecked the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 04/02/2009
- mach I'm a Fan of mach 12 fans permalink

Grear MoveOn vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrFa9jrpv8&feature=player_embedded

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/02/2009
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 37 fans permalink

We also need to investigate Bush regarding the collapse of the auto industry at the profit of the oil industry. Now that the GM CEO is gone, for the auto industry to succeed we need to uproot all the failed elements and regrow a new business with new leadership everywhere. Next Ron Gettelfinger must go and all the bond holders need to get crammed down. Otherwise you are trying to save an inefficient cruise ship on top of a dingy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/02/2009
- ssmack I'm a Fan of ssmack 11 fans permalink
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This is Banana Republic B. S. . Can we get over the obsession to prosecute the previous administration each and every time there is a change of political parties in the Presidency? This goes for both sides. I mean really! It's very third-world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/02/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 182 fans permalink

Amen....I frankly think it's nothing more than distracting revenge. Plus, people who love this stuff? They never are satisfied. They just find something else to rant about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 04/02/2009
- mccabe49 I'm a Fan of mccabe49 5 fans permalink

It's called justice smack! get over it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/02/2009
- jazabelz I'm a Fan of jazabelz 19 fans permalink

It is important to prosecute anyone who breaks the law -- no one is above it. I bet you didn't have any problem with the Republicans going after Clinton for a consensual sexual affair,yet you would let other leaders off for driving the economy in this country to collapse and torture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 04/02/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 182 fans permalink

*blink*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/02/2009
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Sad to see Obama is going to 86 the union per GOP wetdreams. Just sayin'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/02/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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It's bipartisanship ya know!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 04/02/2009
- OrbitOne I'm a Fan of OrbitOne 32 fans permalink
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We had eight years of blaming Karl R0ve. Now, we will have four to eight years of blaming Bush. Just what we need. The Dems have both House and The Executive Branch but they don't know how to lead or govern. They only know how to spend and bl@me. Wonderful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 04/02/2009
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 124 fans permalink
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How have you managed to miss all of the governing and leading in the last few months?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/02/2009
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Pronto loves American Idol, Biggest Loser, and The Bachelor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/02/2009
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Potato cannot get out of bed lately. Weeping into his pillow every morning is such a sad way to start the day. He barely has the energy to walk to his mailbox and collect his SSD check each month. Have pity....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/02/2009
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Leadership, requires action by those that are being lead, if they don't know how to lead it's because they are not getting the correct feed back. Govern? Spend, is one of those things I see you are okay with as long as teh rethugs are making sure they shore themselves their friends and families up. You appear to be against it when it is for you, your family, and the rest of us. Could this be self h8tred on your part. Could you be so in love with wrong that you don't recognize right when you see it? Inquiring minds would like to know. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/02/2009
- OrbitOne I'm a Fan of OrbitOne 32 fans permalink
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monica - I don't like profligate spending by ANY Party. Thus, I am an Independent Fiscal Conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/02/2009
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Oh how utterly st.upid and de.base you are - boggles the mind, grieves the soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/02/2009
- OrbitOne I'm a Fan of OrbitOne 32 fans permalink
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Another empty post by the empty headed poster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/02/2009
- ssmack I'm a Fan of ssmack 11 fans permalink
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OrbitOne is right on! We're behaving like a third world country. Would you prefer that we "tar and feather" in public each time there is a change of power?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 04/02/2009
- kdublya I'm a Fan of kdublya 121 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/02/2009
- OrbitOne I'm a Fan of OrbitOne 32 fans permalink
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Ha! I was going to post that to VB a few months ago. Didn't think it would work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/02/2009
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Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Every millisecond they are posturing in "investigative" hearings is a millisecond they aren't finding more things to waste money on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/02/2009
- OrbitOne I'm a Fan of OrbitOne 32 fans permalink
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True. But, the "hearings" (dog & pony shows) do cost money and they make The voting Libs think that Congress is "doing something" thus, giving them a reason to re-elect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 04/02/2009
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Interesting article for a couple of reasons...

1. No by line. No one wants to take credit for this hatchet job.
2. No mention that some of the companies AIG helps cook the books were Freddie and Fannie
3. No mention of where the investigation into Freddie and Fannie is - they will end up costing the gov't far more than AIG in the long run and have Dem power brokers roaming their halls
4. It mentions 103 deferments for Bush's admin and just 11 for Clinton's. Maybe that is an indication that Bush's regulators where much more active, or maybe it is just slopy or lazy journalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 04/02/2009
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Bush's regulators where much more active....­....

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OMG!! That has to be the funniest thing I have read in quite a while!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/02/2009
- kdublya I'm a Fan of kdublya 121 fans permalink
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Yeah, actively turning a blind eye. The poor souls must have whiplash! :D

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/02/2009
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Yea, about as funny as O putting his speeches on the Queen's ipod. All I am looking at are the numbers, if they conflict with your prejudices, so be it. The reporter should have done more than read someone's fact sheet in writing the story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/02/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 182 fans permalink

I presume it won't result in much except some public relations for a few dead souls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/02/2009
- jefflorida I'm a Fan of jefflorida 4 fans permalink

or maybe, just maybe, it's an example of the bush administration not prosecuting guilty but powerful, rich, republican violators of the law. just maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/02/2009
- mccabe49 I'm a Fan of mccabe49 5 fans permalink

Bush regulated? you have to be kidding when are you unthinking repubs going to get it through your thick heads this crisis was not caused by fannie and freddie this started with deregulation thanks to phil graham and other republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 04/02/2009

No by line?? Can't you READ??? The man's name is Ryan Grim.

& if you want to mention Fannie & Freddie, don't forget to mention that these institutions didn't MARKET OR SELL sub-prime mortgages - they bought (initially) a very SMALL percentage of them which had already been done & packaged up to look like roses from the likes of AIG- and only increased that number at the insistense of the BUSH administration!

As for Bush's regulators being much more active, I absolutely agree - they were definitely active in covering up, aiding & abetting criminal activity by not actively prosecuting it - which was supposed to be their job!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/02/2009

I have a question for my republican friends: I see a lot of finger-pointing going on in this thread regarding who is responsible for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that overturned Glass-Steagall. It seems my republican friends want to point the finger at Clinton because he signed it into law.

My question to you is, "do you think overturning Glass-Steagall was the right thing to do?"

I we can all agree that was the wrong thing to do, then perhaps I'll join in the condemnation of Clinton for his role in signing Gramm-Leach-Bliley. I agree, Clinton and the democrats should have tried to do more to stop this bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/02/2009
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 606 fans permalink
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not to mention the securities modernization act, which finished the hhhatchet job. and the same three cclowns helped author that one too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 04/02/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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It was wrong of all of them but the repubs should not have written the repeal, should not have put it up for a vote, should not have voted for it, dems should not have voted for it and clinton should not have signed it.

And I'm not a republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 04/02/2009
- PocketWatch I'm a Fan of PocketWatch 138 fans permalink
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Not Republican in any way, but I wanted to respond. I really like Pres. Clinton. I think his faux impeachment was such BS. But that brings me to my point. There were a couple of things he did I really never liked. I think that NAFTA was a big mistake, and signing BLB was also. But remember the circumstances. He was under siege from all sides over the BS impeachment, a weakened President, and I think he felt he had to cave on some things to remain effective at all. Doesn't excuse, but may explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 04/02/2009
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I kinda agree, but remember, Clinton signed it in Dec 1999. On his way out the door. AND I also remember him lobbying for it quite actively. I was screaming at the TV machine, so I remember that part REAL well....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/02/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 182 fans permalink

NAFTA needs an agent. LOL* It gets blamed for all kinds of global woes. It never was about that....it was about strengthening our trading pacts. Had we not done something, the relationships with other countries would be much bigger of a problem than today. Moreover, lots of states have benefitted under new trade agreements, such as Texas and some states which deal heavily with Canada.

Don't you guys get tired of the same outdated criticisms?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 04/02/2009
- frixx I'm a Fan of frixx 4 fans permalink

Republicans controlled the Congress in 1998. Republicans repealed the act by a veto proof majority. Democrats had no power to stop it.

"The bills were introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (R-TX) and in the House of Representatives by James Leach (R-IA). The bills were passed by a 54-44 vote along party lines with Republican support in the Senate[1] and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives[2]. Nov 4, 1999: After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. This veto proof legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999. "
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 04/02/2009
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I absolutely agree, Clinton should be condemned for more than that, this isn't a my team right or wrong forum I hope. If the democrats are wrong about something, they will be called on the carpet just as fast or faster than the rethugs. This is about us, not about political parties. It is a proven fact that President Clinton was not perfect, and that he played the game more to the right than to the left of center. It is time to open our eyes, and see these leaders for what they are and not who they are. Reserve the right to disagree, otherwise, make life easy, get a recliner, and enjoy the kool aid, whichever flavor your team happens to be serving up. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 04/02/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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Interesting. Did any republicans respond?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 04/02/2009
- Bpeirce I'm a Fan of Bpeirce 16 fans permalink

Whenever the Republicans don't want a certain person to testify, all the more reason to have that person testify, because you know there is a trail of sh*t behind them.
Bush, Cheney and their henchman were rotten to the core and still are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 04/02/2009
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 124 fans permalink
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And whenever you hear "we don't need finger pointing" it's usually coming from those who the fingers are pointing at.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/02/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 04/02/2009
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 429 fans permalink
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You left out trai lers, semi-automatics, confederate jammies and public restrooms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/02/2009
- All in All I'm a Fan of All in All 62 fans permalink

And Mexicans, whom seem to get the guns that other people buy here in America from gun shows and then sell to the Mexicans..­... Whom I wonder what type of people would do such a thing.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 04/02/2009
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Jeez, Ellis, how are you able to reconcile being a fan of Toby Keith and the Pet Shop Boys simultaneously

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/02/2009
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Hmmmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/02/2009
- toyboat I'm a Fan of toyboat 4 fans permalink
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I'm so tired of all the finger pointing, it's so counter productive. All thes a$$es need to take responsibility & then enact some sort of plan to fix what they have broken & we the people need to stand on top of each & every politicians head until they do what we need them to do in order to restore some dignity to this dumpy country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 04/02/2009
- All in All I'm a Fan of All in All 62 fans permalink

dgswilson:
""This is a great site to comment on. I wouldn't rely on it for the news or the facts about "anything"".
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You know You're right, the (HP) is a great Website because people can share insights which sometimes makes other people rethink ones own views & conclusions, and furthermore the (HP) is just as good as any other News source, since with any News source "it all comes from outside perspective" (meaning not ones own perspective).

However like We've both stated; "un-like some other places to get News from, at the (HP) People can share their personal perspective with others, which means far more then just digesting what one person puts on the plate.

Have a good day, and hopefully continue to enjoy the (HP) and Your other News sources.. We're in this together!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/02/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 182 fans permalink

Yes, the issue to me is to correct the laws that allowed the abuses to occur. Surely, that wouldn't be impossible to accomplish in this environment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 04/02/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 40 fans permalink

Still waiting for the Senate to show us that democracy is still alive.

Where's the comprehensive investigation?

The random firing and the little investigations here and there, aren't going to cut it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/02/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

A big hole starts with the first shovel-full.

I'm in my Pollyanna mode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 04/02/2009
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don't feel sad...I live in a Pollyanna mode

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/02/2009
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Finger pointing and hiding behind thin veils of secrecy went out with the Republican congress and the Bush administration; the people have soundly rejected such weak cowardly leadership - this president will not stand for wasteful childish rhetoric, he will insist on open and honest and constructive forward-looking dialog and swift action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/02/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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Yes his whole point seems to be in looking forward and not backward. Unlike you, I take that to mean accountability is long gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 04/02/2009
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 40 fans permalink

It has only been two and a half months, and the President is restrained political practicalities (excuses that need to go away), but we're still waiting to see this.

So far, shoveling the money to the banking elite has far out-shadowed any semblance of oversight and investigation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/02/2009
- chili111 I'm a Fan of chili111 10 fans permalink

Maybe the federal attorneys that do the investigating will use the same techniques that were used in the Alaskan Senator's investigat­ion....and hide all evidence that could prove nothing unlawful went on, as they did in the Senator's case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/02/2009
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 124 fans permalink
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That was the Bush Justice Department.

They're under new management now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 04/02/2009
- chili111 I'm a Fan of chili111 10 fans permalink

And that NEW managment was the orchestrators of the Alaskan Senator's witch-hu nt, and YOU know it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/02/2009
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That was under the Bush Co. regime. Under Obama we will do things according to actual laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 04/02/2009
- chili111 I'm a Fan of chili111 10 fans permalink

Sorry, buckwheat. The Alaskan Senator's "witch hunt" was a totally democratic party doing, and YOU know it.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 04/02/2009
- destruct1 I'm a Fan of destruct1 7 fans permalink

Yeah....li­ke follow the tax laws and stuff like that.....y­our nonsense makes it too easy...kee­p it coming....­..hilariou­s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/02/2009
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These attorneys won't be under AG Gonzalez, or the Bush administration. That will make somewhat of a difference don't you think. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 04/02/2009
- chili111 I'm a Fan of chili111 10 fans permalink

Hello? Eric Holder? hahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 04/02/2009
- NWRICK I'm a Fan of NWRICK 273 fans permalink
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Just because the Bush DOJ messed up so bad, does not make Stevens innocent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 04/02/2009
- Pepper14 I'm a Fan of Pepper14 2 fans permalink

Who is going investigate the house panel and all the dealing the dems have had in all this? They are just as much to blame for all this mess as anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 04/02/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

Sometimes I just want to throw the whole gang and start over...no elections, just pulling random names out of a hat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/02/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

Add the word "out"... anywhere you want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 04/02/2009
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The people are the investigative body when it comes to the House and Senate, we can very easliy remove them from office, if the electorate would begin to educated themselves, Bad Blue Dogs, or Bad Republicans alike. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 04/02/2009
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Great news everyone, we are officially out of the recession. Unfortunately we have officially entered into what future historians will call "The Obama Depression­."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 04/02/2009
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 429 fans permalink
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If by "historians", you mean "delusional, disho nest @$$hats", I concur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 04/02/2009
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It's refering to Count Porkulous, however I am not sure how long of a "future" he has, considering his ill health....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/02/2009

They don't call it the Roosevelt depression. We have to fix it, the will of the people led Roosevelt to the New Deal not the other way around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 04/02/2009
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Your optimism overwhelms me, how intellectually astute you must be in your world. 0 ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 04/02/2009
- ToL1 I'm a Fan of ToL1 14 fans permalink
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Good morning, monica. How are you today?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 04/02/2009
- elbzee I'm a Fan of elbzee 22 fans permalink
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I think you have a misspellin­g... You left off an "R", and there are TWO "L's" ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/02/2009
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If McCain would have won...do you think Repubs would be screaming to

overhaul the whole financial system?

Do you think there would be all these "sudden-ba­nk-manager­s" interested in money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 04/02/2009
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If mccain had won there wouldn't be any need for sneaking a proposal to cut SS benefits into a bill, they would just do it and give us all a raspberry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 04/02/2009
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