Video Showing Beating Of Girl Shakes Pakistan Peace Accord (VIDEO)

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AP   |  ASIF SHAHZAD   |   April 4, 2009 at 08:35 PM

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ISLAMABAD — Pakistani authorities ordered inquiries Friday into a video showing the public flogging of a screaming woman in a northwestern valley where officials have yielded to Taliban demands for Islamic law.

A militant spokesman defended the punishment, fueling a furor that cast more doubt on a creaking peace deal in the Swat valley that U.S. officials fear has created another haven for allies of al-Qaida.

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Officials vowed to impose Islamic law, or Shariah, in Swat in February to halt 18 months of terror and bloody fighting between militants and security forces that killed hundreds of people.

Shariah has not yet formally been introduced and provincial officials say that, in any case, they would not condone such whippings or the harsh brand of Islamic law practiced under Afghanistan's former Taliban rule. But the video provided a reminder of how hard-liners in control of much of valley interpret Islamic strictures.

Though it was unclear when and where the video was shot, it was believed to have been taken with a mobile phone in the Swat valley. It was broadcast widely Friday on Dunya TV and other Pakistani television stations.

The embattled government of Pakistan's North West Frontier Province struck the deal with a hardline cleric who helped secure a cease-fire. However, President Asif Ali Zardari's office says he won't sign the bill introducing Islamic law there unless he is satisfied that peace has been restored _ a prospect that seemed to recede Friday after a sharp outcry by rights groups.

"It is not a peace accord in Swat, instead it is a surrender by the government of Pakistan," said Asma Jehangir, head of Pakistan's main human rights organization. The flogging "is against all the women of Pakistan."

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said the government remained committed to reconciliation in Swat but warned that it would restart the military operation if its authority was challenged.

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The two-minute video, widely aired on local television Friday, shows the woman face down on the ground with two men holding her arms and feet. Her all-enveloping burqa has been hitched up to expose a pair of pink trousers.

A third man in a black turban with a long beard whips her backside more than a dozen times, causing her to scream repeatedly and shout "Stop it, stop it! It is painful!" A crowd of men watches silently in the background.

It was unclear who ordered the lashing and when it occurred.

Muslim Khan, spokesman for the Swat Taliban, said the militants publicly flogged a woman nine months ago over allegations that she had an illicit relationship with her father-in-law, but he was not sure if the video showed that incident.

He defended the punishment, although he said it should not have been done in public and should have been carried out by a boy who had not yet reached puberty.

Provincial government spokesman Mian Iftikhar Hussein said the incident occurred Jan. 3 _ before the peace agreement was signed. Some regional officials and the Taliban spokesman suggested the release of the video was an attempt to sabotage the agreement.

"The Shariah regulation in no way is going to allow this thing to happen at all," provincial Law Minister Arshad Abdullah said. "Let's not judge our deal by this video."

A spokesman for Zardari, the widower of slain former leader and women's rights torch bearer Benazir Bhutto, described the flogging as "barbarism" that should not be tolerated.

spokesman Farhatullah Babar said Zardari had ordered authorities to apprehend those responsible _ a near-impossible task in a zone from which the police and moderate tribal leaders have fled in fear.

Pakistan's recently restored chief justice also opened an inquiry, saying the case represented "a serious violation" of the law and fundamental rights.

Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry, who had been removed by former military ruler Pervez Musharraf in part for pursuing human rights cases, ordered security officials to produce the victim in the Supreme Court in time for a hearing on April 6.

U.S. officials have criticized Pakistan for striking a series of usually short-lived peace deals with militants, arguing that they give extremists time to regroup and focus on launching cross-border attacks against U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

They have expressed concern about the accord in Swat, but are also pressing Pakistan's army to switch its focus to al-Qaida strongholds closer to the Afghan border.

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Associated Press writers Munir Ahmad in Islamabad and Riaz Khan in Peshawar contributed to this report.

ISLAMABAD — Pakistani authorities ordered inquiries Friday into a video showing the public flogging of a screaming woman in a northwestern valley where officials have yielded to Taliban demands ...
ISLAMABAD — Pakistani authorities ordered inquiries Friday into a video showing the public flogging of a screaming woman in a northwestern valley where officials have yielded to Taliban demands ...
 
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My son will soon deploy to Afghanistan...I'm going to make sure he sees this video. He can add it to the list of reasons why he is there. These people are in the stone age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/04/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 227 fans permalink
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And sending US soldiers with guns in is going to change that how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 04/04/2009
- macweenie I'm a Fan of macweenie 11 fans permalink

OOH, I know! We will push them out of the stone age and into extinction by using depleted uranium rounds that will persist in their environment for centuries. If anyone has told you that America learned its lesson about the use of nuclear weapons after WWII, they lied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/04/2009
- Ale I'm a Fan of Ale 12 fans permalink
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Perhaps tell your son that the Government of Afghanistan just sentenced a man to I believe 30 years in jail for downloading and distributing an article on woman's rights.
That people are losing their homes in the US while we give money, weapons and blood to the people who do these things.
Human rights under the current Government, the ones your tax dollars supports are the same and sometimes worse than under the Taliban.
We could have demanded human rights when we invaded, woman's rights, civil rights, but instead we simply set up another brutal corrupt repressive Government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 04/04/2009

Don't feel high and mighty... there are places in the south like Texas and Alabama, where this kind of behavior would not be frowned upon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/04/2009

Yeah, I hate to break it to you but US troops have been in Afghanistan for eight years and virtually nothing has changed over there. Nothing has been accomplished, so I don't understand what you mean by that remark.

Also, this happened in Pakistan. Afghanistan isn't in Pakistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/04/2009
- Happyexpat I'm a Fan of Happyexpat 36 fans permalink
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Well, this is beyond sick. And there is talk of making the Taliban a legitimate political party? Fine with me....if they're all ready to submit to public castration. Until women rule in Pakistan and Afghanistan, goats would make better political leaders. By a long shot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/04/2009

got that right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 04/04/2009
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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Find and arrest the floggers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/04/2009

You would have to take a whole religion down for that... and that would be impossible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/04/2009
- CJCalgirl I'm a Fan of CJCalgirl 8 fans permalink

It is an historical fact that religions of all sorts serve two purposes. The first is to offer an explanation of our and the worlds' existence, and second, to control others, especially women and children. Wars are waged to control territory and resources, and religion or patriotism are commonly used as 'reasons'. The immediate instinct is to seek revenge by retaliation, but this doesn't work well because it doesn't change anyone's beliefs. It may only serve to 'stifle' the behavior or drive it underground. It seems to me that all violence against women, children, and others who are essentially defenseless should be punishable in criminal international courts. In other words, ALL nations' governments should band together and with one voice, condemn these actions and be willing to form a coalition of judges to prosecute the offenders in open public courts. This should include female genitalia mutilation, slavery, forced prostitution, and child labor. There are two other arms of the success of these. One is education, and the other is the elimination of extreme poverty. Stop the judgmental dialogue and take a stand for sensible solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/04/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

yeah right CJC, that'll happen in our lifetimes, I'm sure. Remember, nice girls don't get the corner office. Until women say no more and mean it, all the coalitions in the world won't mean squat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/04/2009

This is true, but women won't stand up... because they can't. Think about it... once you've been brainwashed as a kid that your life will be over if you dissent, you will never ever think about doing so. Hence the vicious control that men have over women in religion still continues. Women in religion have no value and are only viewed as objects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 04/04/2009
- CJCalgirl I'm a Fan of CJCalgirl 8 fans permalink

Dear Mollymac, Women and children in these societies are raised in such a cultural 'vacuum' that insulates them from a 'world of choice' that it is nearly impossible to say 'no more!' In fact, many women are publicly abused for even a 'hint' of independence. Your argument only makes sense in a free society, and often, even there' it doesn't work all that often. Just think how many shelters exist right here in America for abused wives and children. Education provides equality provides freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 04/06/2009
- Happyexpat I'm a Fan of Happyexpat 36 fans permalink
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CJC--just want to say that in spite of the cynical reply to your comment by mollymac, I think you have an excellent idea about making violence against women and children a crime punishable in international criminal courts. Now, where do we begin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 04/04/2009

Hey, mollymac was not cynical... Mollymac, comments is truth. Pointing out the fact the the women themselves who are victimized on a constant basis will not support any effort that goes against their faith... wake up and realize that the problem is faith and irrational belief. If these girls lived in a society where religion was recognized as the scam and waste of time that it is, they would not be so willing to protect a religion that champions the very physical beatings these same women endure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 04/04/2009

This men have really distorted Islam. I can't imagine Muhammad holding a woman down and having her beat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/04/2009

I agree.

The teachings of Muhammad do not condone this. Look at the crowd of male onlookers - is this just the currently accepted form of extremist Porn?

This is not what Islam is about.

Extremism is evil regardless of the religion or ideology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/04/2009

HAHA!! You guys obviously have not read the Koran. Don't get me wrong I'm not picking on islam, I think anybody who believes in the talking snake and in people that fly up into space is irrational and quite frankly dangerous. However to say that Islam does not condone this kind of behavior is ridiculous... it absolutely does condone it. Just like the christian bible advocates stoning adulterers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/04/2009

The teachings of Islam do indeed sanction this
As do the teachings of the Bible

This story is totally incomplete as to leave out what this woman's supposed crime was. But more likely than not, she was committed some form of adultery, which does not necessarily mean actual sexual contact. But if that was the case, then the Holy Books would say she is to be stoned to death.
It would seem a Singapore style caning is actually moderating the religion quite a bit.

Before everyone gets all high and mighty, just remember that America's criminal justice system is the envy of no modern country.
And hopefully others besides me are amused at all of the people highlighting this incident in an attempt to secure public support for dropping bombs on that woman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 04/04/2009
- greymom I'm a Fan of greymom 36 fans permalink

Did you get the line about the fact that it should have been carried out by a boy who had not reached puberty? Now we know why these people hate and despise women. They are trained to beat them as a matter of course. Is there anywhere in the Koran that condones this practice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 04/04/2009

"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them." 4:34

If you think you can take the "no true Scotsman" approach to Islam you are mistaken. These men are doing what the Koran explicitly calls for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/04/2009
- ssaz I'm a Fan of ssaz 4 fans permalink

What a brutal and barbaric religion that requires women to be beaten (publicly or otherwise). The religion of peace my @ss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 04/04/2009

Well all of the major religions essentially h@te women and don't have a problem with the mistreatment and beating of women, but it is funny to think about people within Islam that are bamboozled into thinking their religion is a peaceful one. That's like saying the Huns where a people of diplomats... LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 04/04/2009

A few hundred years ago Christians were burning people alive. Let's not pretend that Islam is the only religion that can be twisted to justify atrocities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 04/04/2009
- ssaz I'm a Fan of ssaz 4 fans permalink

I couldn't agree more, Christians are just as duplicitous. I especially love the way christians pick and choose which biblical verses they will and will not follow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 04/05/2009

"He defended the punishment, although he said it should not have been done in public and should have been carried out by a boy who had not yet reached puberty."

And this is the guy in charge?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 04/04/2009

Allah works in mysterious ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 04/04/2009

The more videos I see of s*** like this, the more I love my country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 04/04/2009
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Seeing atrocious acts of MALE barbarism like this only reinforces that it isn't the religion that causes this, but the ubiquitous egoism of males in this world. Watching this video, i wanted to beat the perps into submission, what is it about so many MEN in the world that they have to beat their women and children to feel strong?

Men with compassion, feelings and love are REAL men, not these disgusting thugs that cloak themselves in "islam".

It is the same world over with men that value their own ideology over the rights of others. It would happen in the US by chr.istian fundies if we let it.

Only pressure from the populace and their peers will stop the majority of men acting this way. Others it will take only death or incarceration to halt their evil soulless deeds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/04/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

"Flogging"? It was a spanking. Nice propaganda, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 04/04/2009
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Your parents spanked you with a club? Well that explains everything.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/04/2009
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*wondering if "Luvial" is Dick Cheney*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/04/2009
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Stupid comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 04/04/2009

I agree. This was not a serious flogging. She was covered with a blanket and wasn't being hit *that* hard. I don't condone this in any way, but I also don't think it needs to be exaggerated. Based on the reports and headlines, I expected something far worse than this.

These people are practically in the stone age, yes, and they need to be dragged into the 21st century. But lets not blow things out of proportion for no reason other than to fuel hatred between groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 04/04/2009
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in the barrio in fresno where I'm from, those guys would have had their "man-hood" removed, by the guys standing near-by, period end of story

those are not MEN, not the tool with the belt, not the tools holding her down, and least of all, ANY of the blunted tools who stood by watching.

That having been said, WE as a people armed those very same tools and asked them to perpetrate this crap on our behalf only 20 years ago and now we are being told to be outraged at what WE created! What does that make US? TOOLS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 04/04/2009
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

By their fruits ye shall know them. This is Mohammed's fruit...he was a crazy and violent man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 04/04/2009

I don't think you've every studied Mohammad enough to make that kind of assessment. He was actually very concerned with social justice issues, particularly in liberating slaves and helping women. It was only later that his words were distorted by power hungry to mean something ugly, much like Christianity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/04/2009
- irishgramm I'm a Fan of irishgramm 6 fans permalink

How true, how true. I have often agonized over the cruelty and violence perpetrated in the name of "God/Jesus" or "Mohammad" as interpreted by man over the centuries. And more often than not, this kind of sick violence is practiced by powerless little men in a misguided attempt to "feel" powerfull and "comand " their imagined moral superiority of control over those weak and vulnerable, usually women and children. I think that there is a special spot in Hell for these pious liars and hypocrites, and that they will suffer the same violence and pain they have inflicted on the innocent, forever. At least, let's hope so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 04/04/2009

yup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 04/04/2009
- BDVR I'm a Fan of BDVR permalink

Look long and hard at what can happen when religious fundamentalists are in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 04/04/2009
- escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat 298 fans permalink
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Very true. It's never looked very pretty -- throughout history, has it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/04/2009
- ftc I'm a Fan of ftc 3 fans permalink

Any form of beating is bad and barbaric; but she got it easy (In that part of the world I mean) She could have been stoned to death! Women leave that part of the world if you can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 04/04/2009
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