Wells Fargo Predicts $3B Profit (VIDEO)

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AP/CNBC   |   April 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM

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Wells Fargo Earnings

NEW YORK — Wells Fargo & Co. said Thursday it expects record first-quarter earnings of $3 billion, easily surpassing analysts' estimates and providing an encouraging sign for the banking industry.

Wells Fargo is the first major bank to give an indication of how the first-quarter looked. Several pessimistic forecasts about potential loan losses have jolted the market in recent days, and investors have been anxious as Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. all report next week.

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Wells Fargo's stock surged $3.31, or 22.2 percent, to $18.20 in late morning trading. Broader markets also surged on the Wells Fargo report, with the Dow Jones industrial average gaining more than 175 points to 8,012.

San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, which has received $25 billion in funds as part of the government's bank bailout plan, anticipates earnings after preferred dividends of about 55 cents per share. Revenue for the period ended March 31 is expected to climb 16 percent to $20 billion.

Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters forecast profit of 23 cents per share on revenue of $19 billion. Analysts' estimates typically exclude one-time items.

Wells Fargo earned $2 billion during the first quarter last year.

The bank's chief financial officer, however, did caution that the economy hasn't necessarily recovered yet.

"It's premature to conclude the economy has turned," said Howard Atkins, Wells Fargo's CFO. "All I can tell you is we're seeing a lot of business."

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Revenue at Wells Fargo, which has been one of the strongest banks during the ongoing credit crisis and recession, was bolstered by strong mortgage banking and capital markets business, Atkins told The Associated Press. During the first quarter, Wells Fargo received about $190 billion in mortgage applications, a 64 percent jump from the previous quarter. More than 40 percent of that volume came in March.

Most of that business was refinance applications, but about 25 percent came from customers looking to purchase homes, Atkins said, noting the recent quarter's mortgage activity has been among the strongest quarters since the housing market began to collapse in 2007.

The government has been implementing many new programs in an effort to cut interest rates, hoping to bolster the beleaguered housing market, and those programs have definitely helped, Atkins said.

"For sure the reduction in interest rates is having an impact on the wave of activity in the mortgage market," Atkins said.

The company also credited its Wachovia acquisition, which was completed Jan. 1, for helping boost revenue. Atkins said Wachovia accounted for about 40 percent of revenue during the first quarter, and that business at Wachovia has steadily improved since Wells Fargo announced it would acquire the Charlotte, N.C.-based bank last fall.

Wells Fargo said charge-offs are expected to total $3.3 billion for the first quarter, compared with a combined $6.1 billion between Wells Fargo and Wachovia during the fourth quarter. Charge-offs are loans written off as not being repaid.

The bank is still facing loan losses as customers fall behind on repaying loans during the recession. It said its loan-loss provision will total about $4.6 billion for the first quarter, including adding $1.3 billion to its credit reserves. Wells Fargo now has $23 billion in reserves to cover future loan losses.

Wells Fargo is scheduled to report full quarterly results on April 22.

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AP Business Writer Michelle Chapman in New York contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — Wells Fargo & Co. said Thursday it expects record first-quarter earnings of $3 billion, easily surpassing analysts' estimates and providing an encouraging sign for the banking industr...
NEW YORK — Wells Fargo & Co. said Thursday it expects record first-quarter earnings of $3 billion, easily surpassing analysts' estimates and providing an encouraging sign for the banking industr...
 
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Wells Fargo might be doing well, but I'm skeptical of most banks, including Wells. Given unemployment rates and the suspension­/alertatio­n of mark-to-market accounting, how much of the profits are either real or sustainable.

See more analysis at

http://phrenzie.com/2009/04/09/dont-believe-the-hype-wells-fargo-3-billion-in-profits/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 04/10/2009
- roncar I'm a Fan of roncar 3 fans permalink

Wells Fargo has been trying to give the bailout funds back. TheGovernment won't take them back. Hmmm, I wonder why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 04/09/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 04/09/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 196 fans permalink
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WOW! They get $25 Billion and they only claim $3 Billion profit.

Give me $25 Billion and I promise I will show at least $23 Billion profit.

I wonder how much of this profit that they are showing came from their latest refinance scam. They have a good one going. They promise low rates on a re-finance. But there is a catch. You have to use a Wells-Fargo appraiser and each appraisal costs $450. They come out appraise your house and find it isn't worth as much as you owe so no loan, but they still have the $450 dollar appraisal fee. Quite a scam, huh! We could all start doing that if we only had a bank!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 04/09/2009
- 000Jade000 I'm a Fan of 000Jade000 67 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 04/09/2009
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I'm very proud to say I work for Wells Fargo - it's an excellent bank, one of the top 10 businesses in the world. I was previously employed by another bank that is currently receiving (well deserved) unfavorable press. I can only say that WFB is one of the most ethical, best run banks around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/09/2009
- Hdaryl01 I'm a Fan of Hdaryl01 29 fans permalink
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See my posts below.....­..........­......and, pour yourself another glass of Kool-Aid..­..........­...Wells Fargo is one of the absolute WORST banks.....­.......and­, getting worse.....­........fa­r worse.....­.......

Hint: to advance your career at Wells Fargo, you best be able to creatively create new fees, and costs out of thin air. See my post below. I'd bet the Wells Fargo genius who came up with the new $30 "Retirement Fee", and creatively had it imposed retroactively for 2008 on 02/20/09, and again prospectively for 2009 on 03/05/09 for a total fee generation exercise of $60 per account just from me in less than 2 weeks is probably a VP now, with an office, window, and parking spot.

Repeat after me: fees are good. fees are good for our customers. our customers like fees. customers come to Wells Fargo so they can pay fees. we even give customers usurious credit card rates AND fees. late payment fees. overlimit fees. account maintenance fees. monthly fees. yearly fees. check writing fees. membership fees. fees are great. god created fees and we're only doing god's work at Wells Fargo.

The truth is, Wells Fargo, like the rest of the bloodsucking too big to fail financial "service" institutions, doesn't actually do anything af any tangible economic value. I'm glad you're happy there. It's far too messy to actual make, manufacture, design, build, warehouse, ship, distribute, sell, service, install, or otherwise MAKE something.­..........­..

Good luck! WalMart sells Kool-Aid by the pallet....­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 04/09/2009
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

I just hope that Wells Fargo does very very well so that we who have savings with that bank can
get more interest on the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 04/09/2009

This is all hype....it does not included billions of toxic assets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

Actually it does. They have reserves of 22 billion... thats charges already made against future write downs of 22 billion for losses that have not yet occured...­.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 04/09/2009
- Hdaryl01 I'm a Fan of Hdaryl01 29 fans permalink
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Me again 'O Viper.....­.......but if Wells Fargo involuntarily received $25 BILLION in TARP funds that they were forced to take, and have been refused the ability to return....­..........­SHOULD'T THEY HAVE MORE THAN $22 BILLION...­..........­........in RESERVES..­..........­.just askin'....­..........­........An­d, aren't they supposed to have a minimum equity capital percentage­..........­....? Or, be subject to the manadatory PCA law.......­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 04/09/2009
- Hdaryl01 I'm a Fan of Hdaryl01 29 fans permalink
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Maybe this explains some of the "profit". I HAD been a Wells Fargo customer for decades until, outraged, I fired Wells Fargo. Unfortunately, I wasn't quick enough, and just got the last of my IRA and investments out of Wells Fargo last month. I WAS a preferred customer with private banking portfolio management accounts. Never had there been an IRA account fee. Ever. For decades. Never, ever a fee. In early March, I opened my February 2009 statement, and find a $30 "2008 RETIREMENT FEE" charged to me retroactively on February 20th, 2009 on each and every one of my retirement accounts. So, I then make the time to transfer the retirement accounts to Fidelity, but not quick enough. Alas, on March 5th, 2009 Wells Fargo charged me a prospective $30 "2009 RETIREMENT FEE" on each and every one of my retirement accounts.

Cool huh? In literally less than 2 weeks (13 days to be exact), Wells Fargo fleeced me $60 per account for a brand new fee that had never been charged to me EVER. It gets better. My assets end up at Fidelity, and I have a negative cash asset balance in each of my retirement accounts. Seems Wells Fargo charged me $75 per account to transfer the assets to Fidelity..­.......

Did the thoughtless, bloodsucking, greedy f&^ks at Wells Fargo have the decency to invoice me for these charges (legitimate or not) so I could pay them out of NON LIMITED RETIREMENT FUNDS?

No......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

If an account is making money then fees are not charged according to many IRA managemnt arrangements. If the returns/value are dropped below certian levels then a service fee is charged... just like if you dont maintain a Min Balance in your bank a/c.. In otherwords they are not making enough off your money when interest is just 1 percent to do it for free...

Other than that.. they should not change the terms or if they do.. you do what you did... leave.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/09/2009
- Hdaryl01 I'm a Fan of Hdaryl01 29 fans permalink
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Gee thanks Viper! Having a Wells Fargo apologist in the community is always so useful.

So, just so my "lay" brain can understand the Wells Fargo logic, and billing practices, let me parrot back to you what I think the logic is:

Does it go something like this: WELLS FARGO decides my account is not making enough money WELLS FARGO based on some "special" WELLS FARGO formula or equation so WELLS FARGO then decides to create a new feeout of thin air that has heretofore never existed, and without notice of any kind, WELLS FARGO decides to impose this new annual fee prospectively, and for good measure, retrospectively within 2 weeks on my IRS limited after tax balances so WELLS FARGO can make more money and WELLS FARGO can project that WELLS FARGO will have much higher than anticipated earnings..­.........

I get it. IT'S ALL ABOUT WELLS FARGO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silly me, I thought laws required notice....­.

Tell you what, since we're both business owners, tomorrow let's automatically charge all of our customers 2008 and 2009 fees......­.....witho­ut telling them......­....and just let them find out when we send them their next statements­..........­..........­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 04/09/2009

So they made 3 billion...­yet haven't paid back a nickel of the god knows how many billions they took in bailout money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

The Government will not let them pay it back. Thye did not ask for it.

The government told them to take the money. They are paying interest on the TARP money at a higher rate than than the cost to the government­.. the government is making a profit.


The government is trying to increase the money supply back up to where it was before the massive asset deflation whihc rduced the money supply ,in order to re start inflation. No economy can surive a 50% decline in asset values.

It is beginning to work slightly. long ways to go. The min time for a monetary action to work is between 6 to 12 months. However with the job losses and no jobs created in 8 years because we outsoruced and imported .. this will be much longer.

It avoided already however what would have been a total collapse of the economy by January.


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/09/2009

Viper
Thank you for educating the wealth envy contingency in here.

Not only that the government is making all the banks take this money even to the banks that do not require it......We­lls being one of them......­....moreov­er the government is not letting anyone take it back because that would let the market know which banks are in trouble and which banks are not.......­..chaos would ensue.

You speak of outsourcing jobs? What do you think the crushing taxes, and controlling executive pay is going to do? Its going to push jobs out of the country...­....capita­lists go
to the freeist markets available to them......­the U.S. is quickly becoming the opposite. The U.S. is rapidly losing its standing in the world as the financial capital because of its restrictive policies. Look for Dubai to take over the financial capital of the world. Also look for that financial center to extract all the U.S. talent away from the U.S.......­lastly embrace the neo-marxist future of the United States of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 04/09/2009
- Hdaryl01 I'm a Fan of Hdaryl01 29 fans permalink
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Gee.......­.looks like that special illegal Paulson clandestinely penned $64 Billion tax break given to Wells Fargo right before the acquisition of Wachovia (for $15 Billion) came in handy.....­..........­.........l­et's see.......­.give them $25 Billion in tarp, plus untold Billions in guarantees­........pl­us a special illegal $64B tax break for a $15B acquisition the PREVIOUS QUARTER...­..........­........ch­ange Mark to Market rules.....­.......AND IT'S "GOOD" news that they made $3Billion THIS QUARTER...­..........­..?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/09/2009
- bmwracer I'm a Fan of bmwracer 2 fans permalink

You made some money... Time to start paying us back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

The giovernment does not want the money back now. Will not accept it. Wells did not ask for it. The government must increase the money supply which dropped due to asset devalaution in inorder to restart inflation.­.. Its simple math that appears to be beyond Krugman . You dont solve an asset deflation problem by causing more asset deflation.­.. or moving banks form real accounting stds... to government accounting which does not even recognize the basics of accrued liability or insolvency. Nationalization does not make banks stronger, just removes any real accounting and does not reduce the cost of restarting inflation.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/09/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 218 fans permalink
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So your a renowned economist? Do you have a Nobel Prize as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/09/2009
- Bpeirce I'm a Fan of Bpeirce 16 fans permalink

Nice to know. The CEO still needs to be Canned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 04/09/2009
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How much of that $3 billion profit is going to pay back the $25 billion given-er loaned to them from us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

1). Its a loan and the interest is higher than the Governments cost of money... that means a Profit.

2) The giovernment is not allowing the money to be paid back at this time.

3) They did not ask for it. The government ask them to take it to make up for the drop in the money supply cuased by huge asset devaluation in the stock market, CDOs and homes... they need to re start inflation and you do that by increasing the money supply.

US Taxpayers today just made 40-50 billion on the increase in bank stock.. mostly at Citi.. so the amount owned by Citi just dropped.

But cheer up, we are far from out of this... and you may get your wish... nationalized banks while you are living in a tent city.. saying I was right.


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 04/09/2009
- opusprime I'm a Fan of opusprime 2 fans permalink

If they are profitable, why did they need $25 billion of our tax dollars in bank welfare?

Why are they still marking their assets at near 98%, when we all know they are worth less than half that amount?

When will the fraud end?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 04/09/2009
- Dameocrat I'm a Fan of Dameocrat 2 fans permalink

Good question?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

The government required most banks to take the money to make up for the drop in the money supply caused by massive asset devaluation, caused by us not paying our debts.

The government is not letting them pay it back... because that defeats the purpose of increasing the money supply. inorde to restart inflation.­. no economy can with stand the 50% loss in asset value we have had. And beside the government is making money on the deal.. something that did not happen with the 3 trillion wasted becuase of iraq. They pay interest.
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Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/09/2009

The money was never "required". Numerous banks turned it down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/09/2009
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Legalized (ahem) "loan sharking"! How much more are you people going to take?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 04/09/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 255 fans permalink

It appears that more education in accounting and finance is needed before making crazy comments.


No wonder RUSH has such high ratings.. we are trully a poorly educated country.

RUSH blames the poor, here we blame the not so poor, when in fact there is 30 years of mistakes that everyone has helped make... but irrational finger pointing, always away from ones self is so much easier...

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/09/2009
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