CNN: Primetime Doesn't Matter As Much Anymore

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Huffington Post   |  Danny Shea   |   04/17/09 11:28 AM

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Much has been made of CNN's problems in primetime — in March, the network finished third for the first time ever, and it's currently running fourth in the primetime demo through the first half of April (behind even little sister network HLN).

CNN President Jon Klein, who lately has been quick to dismiss ratings, instead preferring to talk about CNN's revenues and its brand of quality journalism, took a bold step last week, telling Variety that primetime doesn't really matter for a news network.

"We sell against all of our platforms — TV, online, international — and it's hard to say there's one particular daypart or hour of the day that matters more," he said.

An anonymous ad-agency TV buyer called Klein out in that same article, saying CNN's primetime woes represent a "significant issue" for the network and adding, "You can't crow about being the most-watched cable news network on election night, then later on say primetime doesn't matter."

Of course, the TV buyer's point may be somewhat weak in that "being the most-watched cable news network on election night" plays into CNN's positioning as the dominant news brand — but Klein's comments dismissing the primetime demo call to mind comments he made a year ago, when the network was doing better on the strength of primaries and debate coverage.

In April 2008 article celebrating CNN's win in the primetime Adults 25-54 demographic, Klein stressed the importance of ratings — the demo in particular:

Though Fox was still No. 1 in prime time for all ages and other categories, CNN officials said winning the 25-54 demographic is crucial from a business perspective.


"That's the demographic that advertisers are buying," CNN/US President Jonathan Klein said.

Klein's comments were echoed by CNN's EVP of Ad Sales, Greg D'Alba, who recently told Multichannel News, that "TV ratings are important," but "it's about how you define winning. We have a tremendous reach advantage that touches more customers and gives our clients opportunities to sell more products."

For CNN, the definition of "winning" appears to change depending on how the network is performing.

Much has been made of CNN's problems in primetime — in March, the network finished third for the first time ever, and it's currently running fourth in the primetime demo through the first half o...
Much has been made of CNN's problems in primetime — in March, the network finished third for the first time ever, and it's currently running fourth in the primetime demo through the first half o...
 
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- jimrs6 I'm a Fan of jimrs6 10 fans permalink

Here's a great play on words: Let's all write "Faux News" as the name for that network. Isn't that creative and hilarious??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 04/17/2009

Get rid of Lou Dobb's and John King's shows. They are just plain horrible. Replace them with Donna Brazile, Paul Begala and David Gergen. I also hope Campbell Brown doesn't return to her show either, Roland Martin is doing an OK job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 04/17/2009
- meede I'm a Fan of meede 35 fans permalink

I agree with you with the exception of Roland Martin. He's not a good replacement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 04/17/2009
- VTya I'm a Fan of VTya 19 fans permalink

There are very few non-whites in good positions on cable news! Martin is more than qualified for the position. Time for more diversity in race, age, background etc. in cable news. I don't need my news read by air-brushe­d-empty-he­aded cover girls who are getting jobs from the old white-boy's network who control the media!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 04/17/2009

Truth in reporting seems to be a virtue lost long ago in the pursuit of individual agendas. How nice it would be if only the facts were reported and the reader left to make up his own opinion. Newspapers seem to have lost their purpose and perhaps that is why they are in decline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 04/17/2009

Nto to long ago, CNN was being touted as the only cable network that did not have a broadcast sister network bogging it down financially...the story was that they had a lot of other money to blow away than Fox and NBC. It seems like while they were ahead that they did not have a feasible expansion plan to take them to the next level. I for one think they need to be a complete package that is similar to C-Span. There is currently no cable network that covers the deliberative congressional process in the cable news arena.

This would tamp down the soundbite and segementized culture in which we live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 AM on 04/17/2009
- BMK I'm a Fan of BMK 7 fans permalink
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Easy fix.

1. Move Cooper to 8pm -his dwindling viewers will switch to Leno in the Fall.
2. Give Begala, Cooper's 10pm slot -he's the only one worth watching
3. Get rid off Grace and Dobbs -no brainer here
4. Give Gergen a Sunday show, preferably King's -let's face it, King should stick with electoral maps
5. Hope MSNBC goes Bankrupt

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 04/17/2009
- meede I'm a Fan of meede 35 fans permalink

Did you mean in number 3 to get rid of Campbell Brown and Dobbs? Those two definitely should be tanked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/17/2009
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Go back to being liberal (Clinton News Network) and you will win me and others back We need a real alternative to FOx news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 04/16/2009
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I think they can't win. You have the whack jobs on both the right and left clinging to their faux and msnbc. CNN tried to play it fair and gets flamed by both sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/16/2009

WOW!!! Unbelievable how much CNN is in the tank for Obama.
This is not journalism; this is a network with an agenda.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2tg8gxCDU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 04/16/2009

Have you seen those "journalists" at your favorite network ... FAUX"NEWS"? so far I've seen 1 reporter losing it on CNN and that's what FAUX"NEWS" is playing over and over again ... and they are even editing it to make it look worst!! Wake up man!
FAUX"NEWS" has been prmoting the tea parties .. and even went as far as displaying "FNC Tea Parties" ... losing it tough I know! DEAL WITH IT!! 8 more years at least ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCQlVKKqod4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrC8SJOe2gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aza7_DVqglI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 04/17/2009
- Lisbeth35 I'm a Fan of Lisbeth35 2 fans permalink

CNN is in a showdown with Ashton Kutcher about Twitter? Now, THAT is fine work for such a reputable news organization. Come on CNN...how far you have fallen! I remember watching you cover Jessica McClure in the well. The Space Shuttle explosion. Not to sound too Guilianish...even 9-11. Now? Twitter wars? Beaming people in? What a fine news organization you are. Not the channel I turn on for news. Entertainment, perhaps, but then again, The Real Housewives of NYC will win in that arena everytime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 04/16/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 104 fans permalink
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Cnn will forever be tainted with the original Bush-lovers...

W@r-drummers...


just unforgiveable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/16/2009
- sandpiper1 I'm a Fan of sandpiper1 13 fans permalink

CNN's mistake was trying to be Fox light...they need to get rid of Wolf Blitzer, the lying bloviator, lou dobbs, Campbell Brown and even Anderson Cooper who ended up being a big disappointment and hire real news people with authencity, integrity and honour. Then maybe people who are interested in real news will start tuning in again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 04/16/2009
- sweetwhine I'm a Fan of sweetwhine 40 fans permalink
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Power to the People!!

CNN wasa huge disappointment during the primary and general. They lost many of their viewers. I for one and happy about it. Goes to show what can happen when "We the People" stand together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 04/16/2009
- E NUFF I'm a Fan of E NUFF 3 fans permalink

I totally agree with this.
Get rid of Blizter & give Jack Cafferty the show!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 04/17/2009
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stoopid post

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 04/16/2009

CNN is owned by a corporation. A corporations main interest is revenue and so in that regard Jon Klien is absolutely correct. Being number one only matters as far as revenue is concerned and if CNN is making great money now then working their way back to number one is just pouring added gravy on the mashed potatoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 04/16/2009
- dinglebe I'm a Fan of dinglebe 16 fans permalink
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"it's about how you define winning...." Sure. Winning is when you get to skate around the rink with the Stanley Cup. Winning is also when your kid's soccer team finishes in last place but they all still get a trophy.

Let's face it, CNN. You no longer belong in the major leagues of cable news. You are Fox-light. Your only personnel left who are worth a damn are Jack Cafferty and Michael Ware.

IMaybe BBC will buy CNN and professionalism will be returned to the network.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/16/2009
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 93 fans permalink

CNN became a watered-down Fox......too right wing for most, not right-wing enough for the loons. So they have no demographic. Plus, shows like Lou Dobbs are just a total bore. His one topic harping is so out of touch that he is clueless and not worth my time. Plus, his hypocrisy is too apparent.
CNN......get a grip......start covering the news straight. Don't put on two talking heads yelling at each other...try facts. That would set you apart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/16/2009
- Raco I'm a Fan of Raco 2 fans permalink
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Dobbs is an equal opportunity hater. He hated the Bush administration, particularly Justice. No doubt he hates President Obama's administration, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 04/16/2009
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Don't forget the Nancy Grace embarrassment. You know the "show" where defendants are judged as guilty until proven more guilty and harrassed to suicide or suicide ideation. Where all the bloodthirsty homemakers and bored grandmas call in to play detective and/or lawyer. CNN lost us years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 04/16/2009
- meede I'm a Fan of meede 35 fans permalink

Almost feel at times Dobbs is an infomercial for his book. Expect to see at the end 'For three equal payments of 25 cents, this can be yours!!'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/17/2009
- Enigma2008 I'm a Fan of Enigma2008 6 fans permalink

As long as CNN sees its mission as vying with Fox and, more recently, with MSNBC for partisan commentary they will be in 3rd or 4th place.

There is room for the pure news and information brand that CNN could be. I would watch shows like Fareed Zakaria's Sunday format, Focus and Dan Rather on HDNet (best visual news shows on TV), Christian Amanpour talking about anything, long format remotes with correspondents covering issues other than the overdone flavor of the day.

I am over and done with Lou Dobbs, Larry King, Wolf Blitzer, John King, contrived controversies, talking head tennis with the same opinions---right and left---on every subject and the total lack of any depth in the "news" anchors. I am sick of "Best News Team----- repeated every 3 minutes. I don't want the opinions of the anchors or reporters. I can't stand the wall of wonder. And I really don't need holographic images.

I would love the substance of issues from knowledgable people---the background, the real analysis, longer format---rather than endless battling talking points and smart aleck interviewers. CNN can't compete with the partisan shows for partisans who want it slanted their way and still bill themselves as a news channel.

If they want respect for being "the best" they have do it straight and leave the controversy, slogans, catchy names (No Bull???) to those who do it better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/16/2009
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CNN has become Foxette. They now promote the right wing agenda disguised as news. Wonder what Ted Turner thinks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/16/2009
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