CIA Officials Won't Be Prosecuted For Waterboarding, Obama Admin Says

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JENNIFER LOVEN and DEVLIN BARRETT | April 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST | AP

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FILE - In this April 15, 2009 file photo, Attorney General Eric Holder addresses a dinner marking the opening of the West Point Center for the Rule of Law at West Point Military Academy in West Point, N.Y. Seeking to move beyond what he calls a "a dark and painful chapter in our history," President Barack Obama said Thursday, April 16, 2009, that CIA officials who used harsh interrogation tactics during the Bush administration will not be prosecuted. (AP Photo/Craig Ruttle, FILE)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama absolved CIA officers from prosecution for harsh, painful interrogation of terror suspects Thursday, even as his administration released Bush-era memos graphically detailing _ and authorizing _ such grim tactics as slamming detainees against walls, waterboarding them and keeping them naked and cold for long periods.

Human rights groups and many Obama officials have condemned such methods as torture. Bush officials have vigorously disagreed.

In releasing the documents, the most comprehensive accounting yet of interrogation methods that were among the Bush administrations most closely guarded secrets, Obama said he wanted to move beyond "a dark and painful chapter in our history."

Past and present CIA officials had unsuccessfully pressed for more parts of the four legal memos to be kept secret, and some critics argued the release would make the United States less safe.

Michael Hayden, who led the CIA under George W. Bush, said CIA officers will now be more timid and allies will be more reluctant to share sensitive intelligence.

"If you want an intelligence service to work for you, they always work on the edge. That's just where they work," Hayden said. Now, he argued, foreign partners will be less likely to cooperate with the CIA because the release shows they "can't keep anything secret."

On the other side, human rights advocates argued that Obama should not have assured the CIA that officers who conducted interrogations would not be prosecuted if they used methods authorized by Bush lawyers in the memos.

Obama disagreed, saying in a statement, "Nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."

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The Bush administration memos describe the tough interrogation methods used against 28 terror suspects, the fullest and now complete government accounting of the techniques. They range from waterboarding _ simulated drowning _ to using a plastic neck collar to slam detainees into walls.

Other methods were more psychological than violent. One technique approved but never used involved putting a detainee who had shown a fear of insects into a box filled with caterpillars.

The documents also offer justification for using the tough tactics.

A May 30, 2005, memo says that before the harsher methods were used on top al-Qaida detainee Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he refused to answer questions about pending plots against the United States.

"Soon, you will know," he told them, according to the memo.

It says the interrogations later extracted details of a plot called the "second wave" to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into a building in Los Angeles.

Terror plots that were disrupted, the memos say, include the alleged effort by Jose Padilla to detonate a "dirty bomb" spreading nuclear radiation.

Even as they exposed new details of the interrogation program, Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, offered the first definitive assurance that the CIA officials who were involved are in the clear, as long as their actions were in line with the legal advice at the time.

Holder went further, telling the CIA the government would provide free legal representation to its employees in any legal proceeding or congressional investigation related to the program and would repay any financial judgment.

"It would be unfair to prosecute dedicated men and women working to protect America for conduct that was sanctioned in advance by the Justice Department," Holder said.

Obama said in his statement and a separate letter sent directly to CIA employees that the nation must protect their identity "as vigilantly as they protect our security."

Current CIA Director Leon Panetta said in a message to his employees: "CIA responded, as duty requires."

Some parts of the memos were blacked out, and Panetta had pushed for more redactions, according to a government official who declined to be named because he was not authorized to release the information.

The CIA has acknowledged using waterboarding on three high-level terror detainees in 2002 and 2003, with the authorization of the White House and the Justice Department. Hayden said waterboarding has not been used since, but some human rights groups have urged Obama to hold CIA employees accountable for what they, and many Obama officials, say was torture.

The memos produced by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel in 2002 and 2005 were released to meet a court-approved deadline in a lawsuit against the government in New York by the American Civil Liberties Union.

"It's impossible not to be shocked by the contents of these memos," said ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer. "The memos should never have been written, but we're pleased the new administration has made them public."

In addition to detailing individual techniques, one memo also specifically authorized a method for combining multiple methods, a practice human rights advocates argue crosses the line into torture even if any individual methods does not.

The methods authorized in the memos include keeping detainees naked, keeping them in painful standing positions and keeping their cells cold for long periods of time. Other techniques include depriving them of solid food and slapping them. Sleep deprivation, prolonged shackling and threats to a detainee's family were also used.

Interrogators were told not to allow a prisoner's body temperature or food intake to fall below a certain level, because either could cause permanent damage, said senior administration officials.

The Obama administration last month released nine legal memos from the Bush administration. It probably will release more as the ACLU lawsuit proceeds, the officials said.

The lawsuit has sought to use the Freedom of Information Act to shed light on the treatment of prisoners _ though the Bush administration eventually abandoned many of the legal conclusions put forth in the memos and the Obama administration has gone further to actively dismantle much of President Bush's anti-terror program.

Obama has ordered the CIA's secret overseas prisons known as "black sites" closed and has ended "extraordinary renditions" of terrorism suspects to other countries if there is any reason to believe those countries would torture them. He has also restricted CIA questioning to methods and protocols approved for use by the U.S. military until a complete review of the program is conducted.

Also on Thursday, Holder formally revoked every legal opinion or memo issued during Bush's presidency that justified interrogation programs.

The documents have been the subject of a long, fierce debate inside and outside government over how much should be revealed about the previous administration's approach.

In his statement, Obama said he was reassured about the potential national security implications by the fact that much of the information contained had already been widely publicized _ including some of it by Bush himself _ and by the fact that the program no longer exists as it did.

Withholding the memos, Obama argued, would only serve to deny facts already in the public domain.

"This could contribute to an inaccurate accounting of the past, and fuel erroneous and inflammatory assumptions about actions taken by the United States," the president said.

Those assurances are not likely to inoculate Obama against criticism from conservatives. Last month, former Vice President Dick Cheney said that Obama's decisions to revoke Bush-era terrorist detainee policies will "raise the risk to the American people of another attack."

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Associated Press writer Pamela Hess contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama absolved CIA officers from prosecution for harsh, painful interrogation of terror suspects Thursday, even as his administration released Bush-era memos graphi...
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The decision not to prosecute the group of Bush's inner circle who destroyed the principles of our country, ruined our economy, and shamed our country is irresponsible. We, as a people voted the Republicans under the Bush's administration out. Why? Because we were so disgusted with the way they twisted logic and destroyed human dignity, hid behind improvised legal mumbo-jumbo to suit their needs, and thumbed their noses at the principles of our country. Their services as caretakers were deplorable and smack of corruption and manipulation at every turn. How do we as a people allow them to go free and possibly for other administration to follow? President Obama has a moral and legal duty to bring Bush's crime gang to court if justice is to prevail. This I believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 04/18/2009
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Jonathan Turley explains to Rachel Maddow why Obama is guilty of obstructing justice if he doesn't appoint a special prosecutor or direct the DOJ to prosecute the Bush administration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG9Nj0OizCA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/17/2009
- FZliveson I'm a Fan of FZliveson 78 fans permalink
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Quote: Obama said he wanted to move beyond "a dark and painful chapter in our history." Unquote

And, Mr. President, is the way to move on, to ignore, sweep under the rug and tacitly condone such horrible actions. Or, President Obama is the way to move on, to stand-up and deliver justice for the world's eyes to see, to reassure those who yet look to our flag and our shores as a refuge from the very acts you wish to move beyond?

Every heart, every conscience, every drunk, every university professor, every child has a conscience, which knows the proper answer. Why don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/17/2009

Not to mention that letting the bush administration off scott free is a neat way to make sure that any Admisistration, including the prsent one, won't have to worry about being prosecuted if they follow in Bush's footsteps. :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/17/2009
- Borborigny I'm a Fan of Borborigny 5 fans permalink
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Somewhere there's a guy with a basement full of kidnapped women in chains, oiling his rack and heating up his flesh tongs, thinking: "At last, no more risk of prosecution!"

Bad show Barack!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/17/2009
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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Yeah, except they'll give that guy the death penalty because he's a common stooge.

Chaney, of course, is special. He must have polished a lot of butt during his time in various administrations, learning and learning and learning how to polish and shine and polish and shine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 04/17/2009
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Actually, the guy I was imagining WAS Dick Cheney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 04/17/2009

D.a.m.n, and I thought we were a country of laws. Oh well.

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For those who of you who have invested so much on Barack that you identify yourself by him and are willing to look the other way or excuse a bad decision because of it, I have written in the past about divesting yourself of your power and ceding it to the next elected official. I have written about the folly of putting your whole trust on someone so as to divest yourself of any civic responsibility, involvement and work. Well, that's how we stop becoming a country of "we the people". You forget that the best intentioned politician is still a politician. And yes, he must work within a frame work that leaves much to be desired.

However, that doesn't mean that we should ever stop from pushing these individuals to do what is right. It doesn't mean that we abandon them either, but continue to support their better actions. It is not an either / or choice. It is not that you give up hope and stop supporting him on progress and moving in the right direction. But you do hold their feet to the fire when needed and keep pushing them on the right direction.

Yes, I canvassed, worked the phones and voted for Obama. But I can see a bad decision and not only have the right but the responsibility to say so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/17/2009
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 8 fans permalink

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 04/17/2009
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My sentiments exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/17/2009
- BethS I'm a Fan of BethS 28 fans permalink
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All of you are wrong and all of you are right. You know why? Because you think so-even if you do not have all of the facts. Even if you know little about CIA operations. Even if you know little about National Security operations. You know the President personally and you can pontificate about his integrity. His past actions have either shown he keeps promises or he doesn't. Your opinion is what matters-and I am sure that all of the opinons we have had before-even if not all fact based-would have worked better for the United States. Again, all of you are right and all of you are wrong. And nothing but time will determine the truth. So, as some of you have stated, you are done with Mr. President! In less than 100 days! So, who are you looking at next to build up/tear down and not trust over time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 04/17/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 144 fans permalink

Please read ContraEgoiste, above...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/17/2009
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Sometimes, you can completely undermine your credibility with even one, tiny little action, no matter how much good you've done in the past. Protecting torturers is such an act.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/17/2009
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from ContraEgoiste "and not only have the right but the responsibility to say so"

The president took an oath to uphold and follow the Constitution and the laws of this land.
He can not choose which to follow and which not to follow. How much time should be give him to enforce justice? 6 months? 4 years? how much?

if America's message is that we are still the beacon of hope, and although previous actions have tarnished that message, we still return to our fundamental belief in the Constitution and the laws of this land, then we must act accordingly.

are we a nation of laws, where no person is above the law? I know little of CIA Operations, or National Security Operations. But I do know the law. Torture is illegal. Are you saying that CIA/National Security Operations are above the law? If so please say that clearly. Stand up for what you believe in.

The president has a responsibility to uphold the law for all. He is required to uphold the law. This is NOT optional. We are a people of morality and laws? We are a people that hold fast that nobody is above the law? We reinforce our moral rhetoric with action?
We must act or we are responsible for our inaction!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/17/2009
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 35 fans permalink

he knows that they will take it to the supreme court ,and they will lose .lets just get on with the cleaning .there is always time to come back to this matter .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 04/17/2009

Shame on you Obama. You were hired to bring transparency and accountability to the White House. And now you throw accountability out the window just like Bush did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 04/17/2009
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eeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeEEEE­EEEEXACTLY­!


Let's just continue being a hypocritical country and disregard what we expect other countries to abide by:

"Geneva Conventions"

That is fukkkk'd UP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/17/2009
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OUTRAGE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 04/17/2009
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President Obama made the right decision. He released the evil policies under which Bush operated including the opinions by the "president's lawyers" that torture was legal. That should wake up America on how far Bush strayed from the constitution. But what court or jury would convict a low-level follower of the officer who then issued the orders?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 04/17/2009
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"Straying from the Constitution" has another name - treason.

What court or jusry would convict a low-level follower? Ever hear of Nuremburg? I guess it is ok to torture someone if someone else tells you to do it? Torture is wrong, even if you are instructed to do it.

Your argument is weak.

No one is above the law - that is the foundation of this country. If we are now condoning lawlessness, we can kiss the whole thing goodbye. There is a law that is higher than the law of the land - it isn't right to torture, no matter what your country thinks! Wrong is wrong!

Let's start with the guy who ordered it, and put every last one of them into jail. Either that, or we do not have a president who takes the Constitution any more seriously than the last guy. The main job of the president is to protect and defend the constitution. It is the only job for which he pledged an oath. Breaking that oath is treason, get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 04/17/2009

Well, that process should have started years ago! Where were you then? Why are you so outraged now? Did you do anything to bring about changes? I don't think so! It's easy to be an armchair quarterback, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 04/17/2009
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Betraying the constitution is not in, and of itself...TREASON

Treason is defined as: "the crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government"

It would be hard to prove "treason" but crimes against humanity...no problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/17/2009

How much tea did you have yesterday? Cool aid? We as a country have no ethis and morals>These people destroyed the constitution of the USA. The world is going to see us for what we are not. LEADERS. I am ashamed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/17/2009

WE MUST CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE AND OUR SENATORS LET THESE BASTARDS KNOW WE ARE GOING TO THROW THEM ALL OUT NEXT TIME

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/17/2009
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I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUMPING ON THIS WITHOUT WAITING FOR THE FULL PICTURE.JUST LIKE THE JUMPED ON THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THAT HE WAS LEANING TOWARD NOT RELEASING THE TORTURE MEMOS.NOW HE DOES. AND NOW THEY PONTIFICATE ABOUT WHO HE . SHOULD PROSECUTE. FIRST I DON'T THIS IS DEAD ISSUE. SECOND HE AIN'T THE JUDICIAL BRANCH, AND THIRD I 'VE LEARNED THAT THE MSM IS MORE OPINION BASED THAN FACT BASED IN THEIR STORIES. AND THEY SELL OPINION AS FACT UNTIL THEY GET HIT WITH AN OBAMA FACT. THEN TWIST IT IN ATTEMPT TO DEVALUE HIS DECISION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 04/17/2009
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Oh we have the picture alright, and it ain't pretty. Torture is torture and now the Obama administration has given torture it's stamp of approval.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 04/17/2009
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That's about as plain as a cold splash of water to the face while tied to a board. Well put. Or should I say, WELL PUT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/17/2009
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nomobull: You are not to be "blamed" for being typical of human nature. In the declaration of Indepenence it says, Quote: ... all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security Unquote

It's time, AGAIN, nomobull. We know WTF is going on and we know WTF is not going on. You don't have to see the face to know there is a man behind the curtain (Wizzard of Oz reference)
Stop turning the other cheek, dude, your skin is all gone!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/17/2009
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Wow he wont prosecute people who torture other people but will ruin the life of the college kid smoking a plant seems at odds to me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 AM on 04/17/2009

Your post is at odds, also!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 04/17/2009
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In what way is it not possibly the truth?

Everybody knows marijuana should be legalized.

The prison industry is reaping the rewards, and the drug cartels, and the kidnappers in Phoenix.

IF marijuana was legal, then I wouldn't have to drink booze and ruin my liver.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 04/17/2009
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 25 fans permalink

Attorney General Holder " Step Down". Your no different than the previous one's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 04/17/2009

Get a grip!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/17/2009
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POTUS BARACK OBAMA IS PLAYING CHESS WHILE THE REST OF US ARE PLAYING CHECKERS. HE IS GOING AFTER THE BIG FISH.

THE CIA AGENTS INVOLVED WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS GIVEN TO THEM. AS FAR AS THEY KNEW, THEY WERE ABIDING BY THE LAW OF THE LAND THAT THEY ARE SWORN TO DEFEND.

THE GUILTY PARTY HERE WOULD BE THE BUSH ATTORNEYS WHO MISINTERPRETED THE LAW IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY TORTURE. THEY ARE THE ONES HOW WILL BE PROCECUTED. HOLDER IS SETTING THE STAGE FOR MASS INDICTMENTS OF THE BUSH ERA ATTONEYS WHO KNOWINGLY SANCTIONED TORTURE.

IT IS HARD TO GO AFTER SOLDIERS WHO SERVE AND DO EXACTLY AS THEY ARE TOLD; WHO CARRY OUT ORDERS NO MATTER THE COST TO THEMSELVES. BUT IT IS ENTIRELY A DIFFERENT MATTER WHEN GOING AFTER SHARKS(LAWYERS). PEOPLE HATE THEM ALREADY. THE PLAN IS GENIUS; THEY GET TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT, AND AT THE SAME TIME, RID THEMSELVES OF SOME PESKY BUSH ERA ATTORNEYS IN ONE FELL SWOOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 04/17/2009

"Just following orders" Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah! That's been the notorious defense that isn't supposed to work! What a freakin' joke Obama has turned out to be. I helped vote the coward in too. But hey, what did we really expect when we had to turn to the largely corrupt to try and deal with the totally corrupt? Oh wait. They've both proven themselves to be totally corrupt. Anyone still think this whole two-party system thing is just fine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 04/17/2009
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You imagine a president can go against the CIA. Wrong! It has nothing to do with courage or corruption. You have sat by for the last 50 years and all through the cold-war, while this shadow government was being built. To dismantle it now, would take something a lot more major than a presidential order. Are you ready to take up arms, and throw our government out? According to the Constitution, that is your job! Maybe you are too busy right now giving your guns away, along with your other rights.

Obama will learn the hard way, and he - like you - can't simply flip a switch. Either start the revolution, or pass the popcorn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 04/17/2009
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