Olbermann: Future Of The U.S. Depends On Torture Accountability (VIDEO)

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04/16/09 09:40 PM

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In his special comment tonight, Keith Olbermann takes on the release of the torture memos, praising President Obama for daring to release "the dirty laundry" but criticizing him for not laying blame.

Olbermann stressed the importance of torture accountability, emphasizing that it was Obama's responsibility to make sure that this "painful chapter" is not repeated.

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As promised, a Special Comment now on the president's revelation of the remainder of this nightmare of Bush Administration torture memos. This President has gone where few before him, dared. The dirty laundry -- illegal, un-American, self-defeating, self-destroying -- is out for all to see.


Mr. Obama deserves our praise and our thanks for that. And yet he has gone but half-way. And, in this case, in far too many respects, half the distance is worse than standing still. Today, Mr. President, in acknowledging these science-fiction-like documents, you said that:

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke."

"We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history.

"But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past.

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Mr. President, you are wrong. What you describe would be not "spent energy" but catharsis.
Not "blame laid," but responsibility ascribed. You continued:

"Our national greatness is embedded in America's ability to right its course in concert with our core values, and to move forward with confidence. That is why we must resist the forces that divide us, and instead come together on behalf of our common future."

Indeed we must, Mr. President. And the forces of which you speak are the ones lingering -- with pervasive stench -- from the previous administration. Far more than a criminal stench, Sir. An immoral one. One we cannot let be re-created.

One, President Obama, it is your responsibility to make sure cannot be re-created. Forgive me for quoting from a Comment I offered the night before the inauguration. But this goes to the core of the President's commendable, but wholly naive, intention. This country has never "moved forward with confidence".without first cleansing itself of its mistaken past.

In point of fact, every effort to merely draw a line in the sand and declare the past dead has served only to keep the past alive and often to strengthen it. We "moved forward" with slavery in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. And four score and nine years later, we had buried 600,000 of our sons and brothers, in a Civil War.

After that war's ending, we "moved forward" without the social restructuring -- and protection of the rights of minorities -- in the south. And a century later, we had not only not resolved anything, but black leaders were still being assassinated in our southern cities.

We "moved forward" with Germany in the reconstruction of Europe after the First World War.
Nobody even arrested the German Kaiser, let alone conducted war crimes trials then. And 19 years later, there was an indescribably more evil Germany and a more heart-rending Second World War.

We "moved forward" with the trusts of the early 1900s. And today, we are at the mercy of corporations too big to fail. We "moved forward" with the Palmer Raids and got McCarthyism.
And we "moved forward" with McCarthyism and got Watergate. We "moved forward" with Watergate and junior members of the Ford administration realized how little was ultimately at risk.

They grew up to be Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. But, Mr. President, when you say we must "come together on behalf of our common future" you are entirely correct. We must focus on getting things right in the future, as opposed to looking at what we got wrong in the past.

That means prosecuting all those involved in the Bush administration's torture of prisoners, even if the results are nominal punishments, or merely new laws. Your only other option is to let this set and fester indefinitely. Because, Sir, some day there will be another Republican president, or even a Democrat just as blind as Mr. Bush to ethics and this country's moral force. And he will look back to what you did about Mr. Bush. Or what you did not do.

And he will see precedent. Or as Cheney saw, he will see how not to get caught next time. Prosecute, Mr. President. Even if you get not one conviction, you will still have accomplished good for generations unborn. Merely by acting, you will deny a further wrong -- that this construction will enter the history books: Torture was legal. It worked. It saved the country.

The end. This must not be. "It is our intention," you said today, "to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution." Mr. President, you are making history's easiest, most often made, most dangerous mistake -- you are accepting the defense that somebody was "just following orders." At the end of his first year in office, Mr. Lincoln tried to contextualize the Civil War for those who still wanted to compromise with evils of secession and slavery. "The struggle of today," Lincoln wrote, "is not altogether for today. It is for a vast future also."

Mr. President, you have now been handed the beginning of that future. Use it to protect our children and our distant descendants from anything like this ever happening again -- by showing them that those who did this, were neither unfairly scapegoated nor absolved. It is good to say "we won't do it again." It is not, however...enough.

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In his special comment tonight, Keith Olbermann takes on the release of the torture memos, praising President Obama for daring to release "the dirty laundry" but criticizing him for not laying blame. ...
In his special comment tonight, Keith Olbermann takes on the release of the torture memos, praising President Obama for daring to release "the dirty laundry" but criticizing him for not laying blame. ...
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- Dadeo I'm a Fan of Dadeo 4 fans permalink

I'm still waiting for FOX to cover the story or even mention it.

Time for Dick to be put in a box with bugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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Bunny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/17/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 107 fans permalink
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Love Obama!
Love Keith!

And thank-you Keith for raising a very important conversation accross the country.
Now this is a real topic.

F0x news-lovers care more about dissing Keith
than they do about "tort-ure".
They must be afraid of something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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African Americans perhaps??? (just a guess)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

LOLOL ... good guess !!

Repubs haven't gotten their talking points clear yet ... some are saying Obama is Bush and others are saying Obama should never have released those documents and that he has threatened national security !!!

This lot of repubs are totally useless !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Where were all you who are blaming or condeming President Obama while GW was constructing his so-called legal cover ... calling the illegal attacks of Iraq a war on te r r or ... using war powers authorities and that "Patriot Act" !! Were you all frozen in fear !!!?? Perhaps the Justice Dept. is trying to determine what can be proven !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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I can't speak for other here, but I was out tending my garden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Very healthy ! ; )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/17/2009
- nancy50 I'm a Fan of nancy50 4 fans permalink

I for one was calling for impeachment - but Pelosi took it off the table - not politically expedient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

The public is so wishy-washy ... soooo iffy ! And now very impatient in all things ! Imagine repubs manipulating the electorate with daily runs of how dems are wasting precious time with political punishments instead of getting this economy back on-line ... I can just imagine !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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Writing my congresspeople, commenting here, demonstrating against the war and the truncation of our civil liberties, and blogging.

That is a very valid point Gladys46, we need patience and vigilance. Perhaps congressional hearings and trials would halt all forward movement on the economy, or health care reform, or any of the other pile of things the last administration broke as they left.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Exactly ... that's what I believe !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 04/17/2009
- SinisterK9 I'm a Fan of SinisterK9 5 fans permalink
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Merely calling him "wrong" is a joke. Again, "IF" you believe that the Bush administration is guilty of committing a crime(s), then you must also admit that the Obama administration is now a guilty party to said crime(s). At minimum it is conspiracy to conceal a crime and obstruction of justice.

I am not making the judgement, and saying anyone is guilty of anything. Just pointing out the obvious. Don't call Bush a criminal, and just say that Obama is "wrong". It's all or nothing at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

There are many investigations going on as we speak ... including reportedly by the office of professional responsibility !

President Obama released those documents basically unredacted ... the truth can be seen world-wide ! Isn't that why repubs are already yelling ... no fair ... he should not have released those documents !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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It is not that black and white, calling it so is intellectually dishonest.

We are not privy to anything other than the information sent out, and right now, they are only saying that those who were following what they understood to be lawful orders will not be prosecuted. That is all.

Calling Obama complicit in Bush's torture scheme is reaching for another avenue for venting your spleen on Obama.

I agree with Kieth that war crimes must be punished, however if the DOJ vetted torture orders from the White House, there is a legal loophole for the soldiers and CIA operatives that followed those orders, even if the legal opinions were insane or simply stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 04/17/2009
- SinisterK9 I'm a Fan of SinisterK9 5 fans permalink
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Your argument would make sense if Soldiers had not already been sentenced to prison for torturous acts which they were directed to perform by higher authority. Cases for example where military working dog handlers were ordered to have their dogs aggressively "bark" at prisoners during interrogation to make them afraid, and to answer questions.
It is the duty of all personnel not to obey an unlawful order or regulation. So in that fashion, I agree with you "It is not that black and white". But in one fashion it is: If it is determined that the Bush administration broke the law, and the Obama administration choses not to persue prosecution, then my original argument stands, and it is a perfectly valid one with plenty of legal grounds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 04/17/2009
- harpen1 I'm a Fan of harpen1 3 fans permalink

If torture is illegal, than it is the duty of the Justice department to find out who ordered it, who okayed it, and who did it. There is no such thing as allowing a crime to go unpunished simply because it happened in the past. All crimes are past deeds. This will be a stain on America as long as it go unanswered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Who said that the Justice Dept. was not investigating just that !!??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/17/2009
- k1k2lee I'm a Fan of k1k2lee 16 fans permalink

Keith, though I often agree with you, you are wrong. More importantly, your history is wrong, particularly with respect to blaming "moving forward" without the social restructuring -- and protection of the rights of minorities -- in the south after the Civil War that led to issues today. Actually, what happened after the Civil War is that Lincoln wanted very much to reach out to the South, despite all that had been done to tear down the country and its Constitution. As Lincoln said: "With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations." But Lincoln was killed, conflict ensued between too lenient Johnson and Congress (controlled by radical Republicans who wanted to punish the South). Then, when Grant took over & just ignored the problem, Congress took over and did punish the South. Reconstruction & reunification failed. Southern whites blamed blacks and northerners and felt alienated and dispossessed. They took it out irrationally on the black population. We still see the discord in the red/blue state breakdown today. Clearly, the problem was more complex than you make it sound Keith. And your hyperbole is simplistic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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Interesting to note that at the time of Reconstruction, the South was controlled by Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/17/2009
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 64 fans permalink

The world of Dems, Whigs and Republicans have little to do with the modern understanding of these same parties, as many shifts occurred along the way. The correspondent's point is that in the most bloody war taking place on American soil, those who could have been punished not only were not punished, but allowed to continue to persecute the most vunerable and poor. Simply put, life is not fair and often it appears that those who committ heinous crimes do escape real punishment.

President Obama did not run on a platform to punish Bush and Cheney and see that they were placed in jail, if Olbermann wants such things to occur then he needs to focus on the appropriate folks like John Conyers and Dennis Kuicinich, men have both initiated actions against the previous administration.

There's nothing ado about this matter except Olbermann's ego getting in the way of what the real prize will be in the way of a successful Obama Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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The Neo-Conser­vatives/Re­ligious Right that came to fruition just as Nixon was being ousted had a lot to do with those changes. They got Reagan elected, and the Republican paradigm shifted towards Rand's Objectivism, and favored business rights and deregulation over workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 04/17/2009

It's time for Obama to stop acting as a tyrant like Bush did. There are three equal branches of government. Whether or not war crimes where committed is up to the Judicial branch to determine. Those who agree to have committed crimes need to be tried in a court of law by their peers.

I sure hope Obama doesn't end up getting impeached for obstruction of justice in an attempt to sweep Bush administration alleged crimes under the carpet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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Did yo also call for Bush's impeachment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 04/17/2009

Therefore be it further resolved that a copy of this resolution with its original authorization be sent to the Office of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, and the Majority Leader of the United States Senate, and that copies of the signed resolution be sent to each member of the California delegation to the United States Senate and House of Representatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/17/2009

RESOLUTION TO IMPEACH JUDGE JAY BYBEE
Passed Unanimously by LACDP, 4/14/09
Whereas, the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees the people a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances; and,

Whereas the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment, the supreme law of the land under Article VI of our Constitution, requires the prosecution of those who authorize torture, waterboarding is torture, and both former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Richard B. Cheney have admitted to authorizing waterboarding; and,

Whereas former Assistant Attorney General, and current Federal Judge of the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit Jay Bybee signed the "Bybee Memo," or "Torture Memo" of August 1, 2002, which advised the C.I.A. that "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment was at times allowable under U.S. law, and authored, co-authored and signed other memos on "extraordinary rendition" and "enhanced interrogation," more of which are being currently revealed to the American public as the new administration brings them to light; now,

Therefore be it resolved that the Los Angeles County Democratic Party urges that the United States House of Representatives begin impeachment proceedings against Judge Jay Bybee of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, charging him with facilitating the authorization of torture while employed by the United States Department of Justice; and,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

I hope this will be done !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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Not only did he pave the way for American war crimes, he did it through ridiculous usage of and parsing of words. He was obviously a bad lawyer that did not understand the laws he was meant to interpret, how can he be qualified to be a federal judge?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 04/17/2009
- ginxy I'm a Fan of ginxy 7 fans permalink
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I agree.

Imagine if this was a small town issue. A local mayor orders the capture and torture of various locals and no one holds him or his deputies accountable. And then the new mayor says to forget about it and move forward?

Ignoring accountability is irresponsible.

Avoiding justice is unforgivable.

You can't fix something without addressing the issue of how it was broken in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 04/17/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 85 fans permalink
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Here is the perfect example of the difference between Left Wing media and Faux.

When our party and it's elected officials violate the tenets of what we believe in, our heroes take to the air waves and do not hesitate to criticize them, to call them out.

They remain the voice of the people who made our leaders like Keith, Rachel, and Ed, popular.

And as you read the myriad of postings from us liberals, there are more people condemning Obama than praising him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/17/2009
- Fuji I'm a Fan of Fuji 11 fans permalink

So you admit that there IS left-wing media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 04/17/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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There is left leaning reporters, but they bring objectivity along with their political affiliation. They are just as fast to call a bad decision a bad decision when a Democrat makes one as a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 04/17/2009
- dylansfan I'm a Fan of dylansfan 39 fans permalink
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No dittoheads on the left for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 04/17/2009
- mesmerised I'm a Fan of mesmerised 6 fans permalink

Mr. Olbermann, you connect dots where no connection is real. Beyond that, and most importantly, you are a combination of uninformed and deeply, deeply biased in your thinking. If you knew the complete story of military operations and enemy actions against our military personnel and innocent civilians, you'd be be aghast and grateful that some people have the guts to step up and cut off mortal threats.

Forget it. Your bias would never allow you to objectively review any information of this type.

Don't worry. Many multiple millions of Americans see through you and dismiss you for the extremist that you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 04/17/2009
- ginxy I'm a Fan of ginxy 7 fans permalink
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you are not only mesmerised, you are delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 04/17/2009
- dylansfan I'm a Fan of dylansfan 39 fans permalink
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I love that. Absolutely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/17/2009
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Unfortunately for you millions of americans who see him has a brain, therefore they know hes not an extremist, for that you have tune into Fox.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/17/2009

why are you asking for accountability when you so called journalist have none

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/17/2009
- imdidactic I'm a Fan of imdidactic 2 fans permalink
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Nice blanket statement. And anyway accountability for reporting the news and accountability for torturing people is not apples and oranges, guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 04/17/2009
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For republicans apples are oranges when their in power and oranger are apples when their not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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The Democratic Party seems to have raisinettes for cajones when it comes to pursuing justice against the Republicans. We saw it when Pelosi and Reid folded on impeachment, or even bringing anyone besides Libby to justice, and we're seeing it again.

The Republicans will ALWAYS be able to intimidate and manipulate Democrats. Too bad. The Bush admin was just SCREAMING for justice to be served.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/17/2009
- dylansfan I'm a Fan of dylansfan 39 fans permalink
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Great picture but unfortunately you're right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 04/17/2009
- dayala I'm a Fan of dayala 19 fans permalink

"The Democratic Party seems to have raisinettes for cajones"

I ate a box of them on my lunch break...LO­L!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 04/17/2009
- JonShank I'm a Fan of JonShank 42 fans permalink
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Yikes. LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/17/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

With tea hopefully ! Enjoy !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/17/2009
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I don't think Ke-Obe is hating on Obama, in this case I 100 percent agree not facing up to this will give weight to allowing it to happen again in some future Administration!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/17/2009
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