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First Posted: 04-18-09 09:00 PM   |   Updated: 05-19-09 05:12 AM

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While a majority of the protesters who attended tea parties across the nation convened to oppose to taxes, many conservatives viewed these gatherings as a platform to voice their other political grievances.

Many of the over 2,500 HuffPost citizen reporters who signed up to cover the Tea Parties found that pervasive griping about taxes served as a backdrop for other issues that elicited more vehement outrage from attendees.

The diversity of grievances belies the viral growth of anti-tax tea parties through various conservative networks, each with its own hot-button issue.

Conservative organization helped spread the word, but aggressive promotion by Fox News likely did the most to spur high turnout. In Toledo, Ohio, RJ Walker said of the twelve people she spoke to before the rally, "All were Fox News viewers and heard about the party by watching Fox."

Estimations of nation-wide attendance range from Nate Silver's reasoned approximation of 250,000 protesters to Mike Huckabee's cavalier estimation of six million, which he gave live on Fox News' Sean Hannity Show.

Tanner McCracken reported from Hoover, Alabama, which hosted one of the largest gatherings in the country:

"Though no official figures are available, the estimated attendance as announced during the rally was over 7,000. As dubious as this claim may be, the traffic this event garnered was undeniable; the normally 20-to-25-minute drive from downtown Birmingham to Veterans Park took me an hour and a half. The event was emceed by locally-based, nationally syndicated radio hosts Rick Burgess and Bill "Bubba" Bussey, who riled up the crowd with conservative jokes ranging from homeland security "spies" keeping tabs on the "right-wing extremists," to hunting Somali pirates with deer rifles."

The heavily attended parties appeared to veer the furthest away from tax related issues. At another large rally, this one in Phoenix, Jake Tommerup reported that while "the most popular theme did seem to be an aversion to taxes," many of the hand written signs were considerably off topic.

In addition to mass-produced visuals like the yellow and black "Taxed Enough Already" signs seen at other T.E.A. parties around the country, numerous verbose hand-lettered signs expressing sentiments about everything from government to guns suggested that the mostly white crowd here was largely comprised of Ron Paul supporters, Constitution Party fans, NRA members, McCain-Palin voters and Republican Party sympathizers.
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One sign in Chicago even took aim at the Huffington Post, reports Daniel Hough who spoke to the sign-bearer.

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I politely asked her what her sign said and she held it up proudly for me to take a picture and added just as proudly, "they're liberals!"

I could not help myself and leaned in slightly, smiled and in a friendly way said "...so am I." Her face immediately contorted into rage, and she blurted out, "You can't be here. You have to leave!" I smiled and politely told her, no I didn't, it's a free country and I can go where I want in a public place, especially in the city where I live, and a block from where I work.

Many citizen journalists reported that protesters brought the issue of gay marriage to the table. Eric Aguirre, who attended an assembly in College Station, Texas, described how one of the guest speakers, a World War II veteran, spoke about gay marriage.

He said that while he believed that God made you the way you were, he felt there were limits to how marriage is defined. He said God made men, and God made women, and marriage is between each of those sexes. The crowd erupted in applause. Texas was not the only state where anti gay marriage statements were cheered by tea party protesters.

Counter-protesters organized in Boston to support the issue of gay rights. Demonstrators threw boxes labeled "taxes" into the water, reports Booklynne Peters. The event's participants took issue with filing their federal taxes as "single" when many of them have been living in committed relationships for years.

Another recurrent theme at tea parties across the nation was the right to carry weapons. In Chicago, Dave Hossler explained how Eric Mancow, a local radio personality, kicked off the protest by saying, "I don't care what you believe in. I'm a Christian, I'm American and I'm proud of it [...] Hi, ACORN. You are a morally bankrupt organization. I'll keep my God and my guns, thank you very much."

Carla Cheshire observed that some of the loudest cheers during a rally in Houston, Texas came when several of the guest speakers alluded to the right to bear arms. In addition, citizen journalists described a number of cardboard signs reading messages like, "I'll keep my faith, my guns and my money, and you can keep your change!"

Protesters also spoke out about immigration, especially in Border States. Several HuffPost reporters noticed the presence of "Americans for Legal Immigration," a group who call for the deportation of illegal immigrants. Many cardboard signs blamed immigrants for costing the government too much money, and taking away the funds that could be spent on "Real Americans." Lakshmi Sankar, in New Jersey, explained, "The message was supposed to be all about taxation," but according to her, other messages prevailed, such as "anti-immigration" and the "upholding of American-born citizenship."

In Orange County, Syd Flatt noted a preponderance of anti-immigration signs and observed an absence of ethnic diversity in the crowd:

Noticeably absent were Asians, who comprise 16% of the OC's population. Historically, Asians were overwhelmingly Republican, yet there were few in attendance. This could be an indicator of a decisive shift in the political structure of Orange County.

Many reporters underlined the fact that the crowds that gathered at the tea parties were not racially diverse. And as Flatt put it, "What they lacked in diversity of race they made up for in diversity of reasons to protest."

Reporting contributed by Matthew Palevsky, Thibault Chareton, Kelly Van der Kwast, and the HuffPost citizen reporters who are highlighted above.

Over 2,500 HuffPost citizen journalists have helped provide comprehensive coverage of the Tax Day Tea Party protests. Click here for the latest photos and video.To join our citizen reporting team, ...
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- annecros I'm a Fan of annecros 4 fans permalink

Well, a lot of people got the message.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/51_view_tea_parties_favorably_political_class_strongly_disagrees

Rasmussen:

51% have a favorable view of the Tea Parties, 34% very favorable. One in four people personally know someone who attended a Tea Party. 54% of Mainstream Democrats have a favorable view of the Tea Parties.
The Political Class, a tiny minority, is the only demographic with an unfavorable view. And they should, that was the point.

Republican or Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 04/21/2009
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Update: All "teabaggers" are not accepting that "dirty" money from tax returns and giving it to the "lazy" liberals. Oh wait we were all working that day. They had time to defend um whatever it was they were defending. So look forward to a hefty check that will be doled out as the "teabaggers" are sticking to their principles of well whatever they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 04/20/2009
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The only things missing, were the hoods, brown shirts and swastikas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 04/20/2009
- RealistDem I'm a Fan of RealistDem 2 fans permalink

These libertarians on here arent libertarians. Their republican shills. Who spend their whole day sniping at every post. If they were true libertarians they would have plenty of criticism of republicans, but they dont, cause their posers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/20/2009
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Libertarian Women: I can understand that both political parties disappoint much. What I can't understand is trying to destroy the best of the democratic party because you don't like the actions of some. The same goes for a republican. If Mr. Obama was a republican and he held to the same beliefs and went about his business the same way, do you honestly think I would not support him? I would not care what party he belongs to. I live in Florida and Charlie Crist is a republican. He has done a great job as governor and so far has MY vote for re-election. If you know me, that is a HUGE accomplishment for a southern republican. It was he that lifted draconian laws so all the citizens of Florida have a better chance to vote. Guess what ..........­.......Mca­in lost Florida! Just like George Bush would have lost if there was a level playing field in 2000 and 2004. For me it's not about party at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 04/20/2009
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..............You say in a reply below, that "Government cannot create jobs". I agree and disagree!

While government cannot creat jobs directly, government can play a huge roll in making the landscape fertile for job production to happen.

You say: "Can we make sure that no illegal aliens can get the jobs that are created".
My reply is: Yes we can!!! One way to do that is severe punishment for those hiring illegal aliens seeking to reduce pay to all their workers. That job once again falls to the government! So just like deregulation, when the goverment allows this, which if you are truthful it was the Bush crowd that saw an explosion of this practice, there will be nothing we could do to stop it besides going to war!
Barring employment for American Citizens because they smoke a joint on their own time is just as ridiculous as hiring illegal aliens!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 04/20/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Let's see... Conservatives gave America the largest, most intrusive, most expensive, government in all of human history.

Now they are protesting the results of their policies.

Republicans are far too infantile to ever grow up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 04/20/2009
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You'd think people would want our country's bottom line to be in the BLACK, wouldn't you?
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If I didn't trust the brilliance of Barack Hussein Obama I would worry a lot more about some of the economic decision made since he took office; but I do trust his brilliance and am absolutely sure of the deceit of Fox News and its ignorant buffoons like Bill O and Shawn Hannity, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 04/19/2009

Blind ignorance. Kinda like religion!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/20/2009
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Thank God they are the small minority

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/20/2009
- Tugar I'm a Fan of Tugar 34 fans permalink
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I REALLY HOPE THE TEABAGGERS WATCHED 60 MINUTES THIS EVENING...

The segment showing how people lost just about everything they had in their 401K savings, now at the age of retirement and cannot because of their recent loses.

Apparently, people, (brokers) on Wall Street was robbing 401K accounts blind with multiple fee charges, until they was nothing left in the accounts. All of which happened while GW Bush was in office.

Now, this is what I want Pres. Obama and his team to put an end to, and make sure that such a thing never happens again.

THAT WAS THE TIME TO TEABAG, WHEN EVERYBODY BEGAN TO LOSE THEIR LIFE SAVINGS ! NOT NOW !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 04/19/2009

Oh please, Wall Street has been misbehaving since inception, where were you then? You guys keep throwing that one at us. Those extra fees were ok while the economy was up and the market was up, but now they are bad? Investing is gambling. You make a bad gamble why should I pay? It's sad for them, but lots more people made money during the history of the market.

Tea Parties happen when we finally have had enough. And now we have. Don't see you guys doing anything but kissing up to Washington. ALL of Washington, every party every politician needs to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 04/20/2009
- SOLERSO68 I'm a Fan of SOLERSO68 36 fans permalink
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There are two things the unite all of these goofs; fear and an unwavering loyalty to fox news rhetoric in spite of an avalanche of facts to the contrary. these folks are full of fear, and they all think that somebodys going to "take something from them"...they all think that "freedom" and "liberty" means that only rural and suburban white republican-ish ppl like them are REAL Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 04/19/2009

What facts? Enlighten us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/19/2009
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That doesn't semm to be possible!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 04/19/2009
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"I don't care what you believe in. I'm a Christian, I'm American and I'm proud of it [...] Hi, ACORN. You are a morally bankrupt organization. I'll keep my God and my guns, thank you very much."

Every time I hear this, I want to ask where in the Bible it says anything about keeping your guns? Jesus was a peaceful man who did not believe in taking up arms against the government. Some of his diciples wanted him to lead an insurgency against the Romans, but that was not his mission. His mission was to teach love and forgiveness. These people who proclaim themselves "Christians", who want to keep their guns so they can presumably protect themselves from their government (by killing its duly elected officials, police and soldiers, I can only assume) have no idea what Christianity means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 04/19/2009
- NoelGreco I'm a Fan of NoelGreco 11 fans permalink
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The guy was making fun of Obama and his ilk.

Remember what BO said a year ago?:

"So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/19/2009
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Judging by the way conservatives are screaming about second amendment rights even though no one is threatening to take away the second amendment, I would say he was correct! You and the whackjob above you really don't do much to help the argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 04/19/2009
- Ellyllon I'm a Fan of Ellyllon 82 fans permalink
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Because those people at the tea-bag rallies didn't seem in any way 'bitter...'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 04/19/2009
- wltdnfaded I'm a Fan of wltdnfaded 64 fans permalink
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Was he wrong? I dunno, the Tea Parties pretty much proved he was right on that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/20/2009
- annecros I'm a Fan of annecros 4 fans permalink

The right to bear arms and freedom of religion are explicitly written into the Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 04/20/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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You can make any event look like anything you want by very careful editing and selective reporting. That goes for all media and they all do it, including this article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 04/19/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 125 fans permalink
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Go teabag someone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 04/19/2009
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Sounds like fun!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 04/19/2009
- NoelGreco I'm a Fan of NoelGreco 11 fans permalink
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As thoughtful as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/19/2009
- DBtv I'm a Fan of DBtv 30 fans permalink
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If it quacks like a duck. . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/19/2009

Selective reporting my a** . When you have a protester saying he would like to stab The POTUS in the eyes that is going too far. I did not see this on HP I saw the video on YouTube, DemUnderground and Young Turks. This was not on a poster it was spoken out loud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/19/2009
- NoelGreco I'm a Fan of NoelGreco 11 fans permalink
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That was a lib interloper, not one of the protesters

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 04/19/2009
- Actionman I'm a Fan of Actionman 5 fans permalink
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These people really have a sense of entitlement... Their own entitlement to be the ONLY power in this country.

Their about as bright as a cracked light bulb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/19/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Wake up! The people in power are the finiancial oligarchy and have been for neigh on 50 years now ... no matter who has the presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 04/19/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 125 fans permalink
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Yeah!
Let's bring Bush back!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 04/19/2009
- Tracy Hale I'm a Fan of Tracy Hale 51 fans permalink

And they conveniently wait until NOW to say anything about it....ok..­..whatever you say....pfttt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 04/19/2009
- DBtv I'm a Fan of DBtv 30 fans permalink
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"But we just realized this when the ni**er got in the White House."

(Rolls eyes)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 04/19/2009
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The tea traitors think that are right. After all, they did get a paw on the back from Fox Noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 04/19/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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It's about SPENDING too much money. Just like Americans are in too much debt personally, our country is in too much debt. And Congress is talking about exponential increases in debt.

You can't spin the people who this will really affect ... because they haven't been born yet.
We'll see how happy they are with our actions in about 20-30 years (hint, don't expect them to be nice to you on the bus)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/19/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 125 fans permalink
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Too bad you weren't this upset when Bush was spending spending spending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/19/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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And you know this how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 04/19/2009
- Actionman I'm a Fan of Actionman 5 fans permalink
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So I take it that you are very upset at Ronny Reagan for this debt he put on our back that G. W. Bush has continued and enhanced.

Clinton leaves office and we have a surplus, Bush comes into office and spent that surplus down in his first nine months in office and caused the the 911 attacks to be successful by NOT paying attention. Then started a war that had NOTHING to do with 911 and spent us into even more debt.

So guess your very upset with him too and the tea party is a delayed reaction... I get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 04/19/2009

What part of going back 50 years don't you get? Actually further back. Go back to The Great Depression. That's when it started.

We are waking up. When will you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/19/2009
- Tracy Hale I'm a Fan of Tracy Hale 51 fans permalink

What you call "spending" some of us call "INVESTING" This way, our children don't have to beg favors from "enemies".

In other words....why do you hate America and the American small businesses?

THAT is who WE are saving with all of this "spending".

You keep bringing up our children having to pay for this....so be it, since they will be the ones PROFITTING off of it....BTW, my Generation has been paying for Reagan/Bush's spending for over a decade now.

Its called the 21st century....catch up or be left behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 04/19/2009

Benefitting? Do you understand economics? There is no way we can keep spending like this and come out of it without massively increasing taxes on EVERYONE and bankrupting Social Security, enduring double digit inflation.

Oh yeah, good benefit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 04/19/2009
- myworld I'm a Fan of myworld 7 fans permalink
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They are mad as Hell ,but not all about taxes.Janeane Garofalo talks about the purpose the conservative tea parties .She nailed it on the head....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/30255102#30255102

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/19/2009
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