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STEVEN R. HURST | April 19, 2009 06:51 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has gone abroad and gored an ox _ the deeply held belief that the United States does not make mistakes in dealings with either friends or foes.

And in the process, he's taking a huge gamble both at home and abroad, for a payoff that could be a long time coming, if ever.

By way of explanation, senior adviser David Axelrod describes the president's tactics this way:

"You plant, you cultivate, you harvest. Over time, the seeds that were planted here are going to be very, very valuable."

While historic analogies are never perfect, Obama's stark efforts to change the U.S. image abroad are reminiscent of the stunning realignments sought by former Soviet leader Michael Gorbachev. During his short _ by Soviet standards _ tenure, he scrambled incessantly to shed the ideological entanglements that were leading the communist empire toward ruin.

But Obama is outpacing even Gorbachev. After just three months in power, the new American leader has, among many other things:

_ Admitted to Europeans that America deserves at least part of the blame for the world's financial crisis because it did not regulate high-flying and greedy Wall Street gamblers.

_ Told the Russians he wants to reset relations that fell to Cold War-style levels under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

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_ Asked NATO for more help in the fight in Afghanistan, and, not getting much, did not castigate alliance partners.

_ Lifted some restrictions on Cuban Americans' travel to their communist homeland and eased rules on sending wages back to families there.

_ Shook hands with, more than once, and accepted a book from Hugo Chavez, the virulently anti-American leader of oil-rich Venezuela.

_ Said America's appetite for illegal drugs and its lax control of the flow of guns and cash to Mexico were partly to blame for the drug-lord-inspired violence that is rattling the southern U.S. neighbor.

_ Said that "if our only interaction with many of these countries is drug interdiction, if our only interaction is military, then we may not be developing the connections that can, over time, increase our influence" _ neglecting to mention U.S. health care, education and humanitarian relief efforts in Latin America.

At a news conference ending the three-day Summit of the Americas on Sunday, Obama was asked to explain what a reporter called this emerging "Obama Doctrine."

He said that first, he remains intent on telling the world that the United States is a powerful and wealthy nation that realizes it is just one country among many. Obama said he believes that other countries have "good ideas" and interests that cannot be ignored.

Second, while the United States best represents itself by living up to its universal values and ideas, Obama said it must also respect the variety of cultures and perspectives that guide both American foes and friends.

"I firmly believe that if we're willing to break free from the arguments and ideologies of an earlier era and continue to act, as we have at this summit, with a sense of mutual responsibility and mutual respect and mutual interest, then each of our nations can come out of this challenging period stronger and more prosperous, and we can advance opportunity, equality, and security across the Americas," the president said.

Critics, especially those deeply attached to the foreign policy course of the past 50-plus years, see a president whose lofty ideals expose the country to a dangerous probing of U.S. weakness, of an unseemly readiness to admit past mistakes, of a willingness to talk with unpleasant opponents.

"I think it was irresponsible for the president to be seen kind of laughing and joking with Hugo Chavez," said Sen. John Ensign, a Nevada Republican. "This is a person along the lines with Fidel Castro and the types of dictatorship that he has down there in Venezuela and the anti-Americanism that he has been spreading around the world is not somebody the president of the United States should be seen as having, you know, kind of friendly relations with."

At his news conference Obama said he didn't think he did much damage to U.S. security or interests by shaking the hand of Chavez, whose country has a defense budget about one-six hundredth the size of the United States, and depends upon it's oil reserves for solvency.

But beyond specific attacks on his new foreign policy are the deeper philosophical challenges emerging from the still powerful, if diminished, conservative political structure in the United States. Such opponents can play havoc with Obama's attempts to change domestic policy and will work to weaken his 60-plus percent approval among Americans.

Obama brushes that aside:

"One of the benefits of my campaign and how I've been trying to operate as president is I don't worry about the politics _ I try to figure out what's right in terms of American interests, and on this one I think I'm right."

So thought Gorbachev. But being right is not always politically healthy.

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Steven R. Hurst reports from the White House for the AP and has covered foreign affairs for 30 years.

Filed by Marcus Baram
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has gone abroad and gored an ox _ the deeply held belief that the United States does not make mistakes in dealings with either friends or foes. And in the pr...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has gone abroad and gored an ox _ the deeply held belief that the United States does not make mistakes in dealings with either friends or foes. And in the pr...
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- Boadicea I'm a Fan of Boadicea 70 fans permalink

The circumspection born of experience is evident in the writing of this piece.
Kudos to the author for providing a piece that is worth the time to read it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

Kudos to you, for recognizing that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/20/2009
- mcamp52 I'm a Fan of mcamp52 6 fans permalink

What we are seeing is a man who understands his and his nation's place in a diverse and shrinking world. He seeks cooperation, not conflict. He seeks coexistence, not isolation, He understands that althought we are many different people, we are still one planet and that to survice, we must get along.

When you strip away the greed and strip away the crusading "my-god-is better-than-your-god-so I -should-get all your-oil" mentality of the GW Bush years, what's left? Change is what is left and our president, Barack Obama is the right man at the right time do do the right things that need to be done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 04/20/2009

Gorbachev and Obama. Two COMRADES in action!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/20/2009

Considering that Gorbachev oversaw the undoing of Communism, it seems only appropriate to compare President Obama to him. All we can hope is that he does better - Gorbachev was unable to undo the disasters of the conservative communists, so we fervently hope that Obama is successful in undoing the disasters of the conservative Republicans, otherwise we'll see our country come apart at the seams like theirs did

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

Yes! So you see Hurst's point.
And your comment just reminded me of how 'chummy' GWB was with Putin -- how ironic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 04/20/2009

Misplaced insult. Gorbachev was a moderate who worked for better relations with America, and the west in general, and for lessening the stranglehold on his own people. So there are similarities but you missed the point in trying to turn that into an insult.

That's a pretty common failing from the wrong wing. It's like how they display their ignorance by calling him socialist and fascist at the same time! You might as well call someone a teetotaller and a drunk at the same time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 04/20/2009
- Petey131 I'm a Fan of Petey131 35 fans permalink

"TalentedOne" should be re-named as unTalentedOne.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/20/2009

So this would make Bush Leonid Brezhnev. The Soviet leader who really ran the country into the ground, not Gorbachev. Soviet Union under Brezhnev invaded Afghanistan, had a crony type of communism which caused unbelievable corruption and supported a military industrial complex that bankrupted the country. When Gorbachev arrived it was already too late and the old Soviet Union was ripe for a major break-up.

I can see some similarities but the world is a very different place today and the US is not quite in the position the Soviet Union was in 1980.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/20/2009

Obama is taking a sensible, common sense approach in dealing with international leaders. He will earn much more respect to the U.S. from the world than the neocons can ever dreamed of for themselves. It is about time the U.S. chips off the arrogance, the self-righteousness and the profiteering postures that the neocons, the military-industrial complex, and the religious fundamentalists imposed on this country. What Obama is doing is to recognize the value of fairness, and being fair (and understanding and tolerant) will only reinforce our strength.

The matter of fact is that the world does not fear the U.S. anymore. For proof, see how many walls the previous neocon administration ran into. It's much more valuable as well as practical to summon respect rather than fear from other countries.

President Obama should have our full support. Let's ignore the neocons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Indeed ! The simple fact is even during their bellicose speaks against the President, they "expect" civil responses !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 04/20/2009
- wyldthings I'm a Fan of wyldthings 14 fans permalink

I wonder how old most of you are? I remember during the Kennedy , Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan etc when Central America and South America had massive protests with the main theory was "yanquii go home. To say the neocons are responsible is clearly wrong. You saw Chavez give Obama a book that is very critical of U.S policies during the last 100 years and that includes Republican And Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/20/2009

Eventhough we did not call it neoconic policies back then that's what they were. And yes they were Democrats as well as Republicans who perpetrated as well as it was Democrats in the south who perpetrated Jim Crow and wore white sheets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 04/20/2009
- Petey131 I'm a Fan of Petey131 35 fans permalink

ADULTS can deal with people or countries that have been or are critical. Children can not.

The President is an ADULT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/20/2009
- foolchild0 I'm a Fan of foolchild0 5 fans permalink

I take serious offense at Chavez being described as "virulently anti-American."

It seems to me that Chavez is more anti-Bush and anti-imperialism than anti-American, because what he has complained about is the USA's consistently arrogant and unilateral attitude towards the rest of the world both in recent years and earlier.

And what I take from the AP's description of this stance as "virulently anti-American" is the assertion that imperialism, bullying, illegal coup attempts, etc., are somehow inherently "American."

That is not my America, thanks, AP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Pat Robertson was no real help ! Publicly calling for that man's orchestrated U.S. de mi se !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Is that his name "Robertson" !??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/20/2009
- Petey131 I'm a Fan of Petey131 35 fans permalink

No difference between Chavez and Limbaugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 04/20/2009

did they get this analysis from the Facebook Quizzes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/20/2009
- Tracy Hale I'm a Fan of Tracy Hale 51 fans permalink

LOL

And every other word was misspelled...hahahaha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/20/2009
- foolchild0 I'm a Fan of foolchild0 5 fans permalink

What a moronic, sensational analysis. As if the USA is anywhere near the dire straights of the USSR, as if Perry's equally moronic statement was anything more than vacuous posturing identical to that of another recent Texas governor who was also all hat and no cattle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

the comparisons are not so much between the former Soviet or American empire, nor the specific agendas of Gorbachev or Obama, but in recognizing a similarity in leadership and vision. Both leaders were in pursuit of an ideal; the Soviets toward democratization and the U.S. away from the failures of the quasi-authoritarianism of the past 8 years and supply-side economics of the last 30 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/20/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 125 fans permalink

And a taco short of a combo platter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

You lose all semblance of being a respectable individual, and therefore lose credibility and the privilege of respectful dialogue from here forward, with your unfortunate comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

I think some readers misunderstood what Hurst is supposing; that no matter how good Obama's intentions (as were Gorbachev's for the Soviet union and his subsequent decline in popularity), perhaps a similar fate awaits Obama?

Hurst's analogy:
Obama's first diplomatic efforts at repairing U.S. image overseas are "reminiscent of Gorbachev's attempts to "shed the ideological entanglements that were leading the communist empire toward ruin.".
(Read: The last eight years were leading our democratic ideals to ruin.)

Hurst highlights the Presidents diplomacy thus far, and then mentions Obama's detractors - critics 'attached to foreign policy of the past 50 years' who think of Obama's rhetoric as "lofty ideals".
Hurst also quotes criticisms (by (R) Senator of Nevada) of Obama's diplomatic gestures.

Hurst then ends the article with a quote of Obama's response at a news conference on the criticism he received on his diplomatic efforts:
"... I don't worry about the politics _ I try to figure out what's right in terms of American interests, and on this one I think I'm right."

(Read: President Obama is not concerned with popularity, but with doing the right thing for America.)

Hurst's point is that, in the context of a "still powerful, if diminished, conservative political structure in the United States", President Obama's 'idealism' may be exploited and used against him, and "thus weaken his 60-plus percent approval among Americans."

Therefore, as it was not "politically healthy' for Gorbachev, then so too not for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Oh please !! Nothing President Obama is attempting is LIKE anybody ... but himself ! Why, he doesn't even "look" like past president's !

Where were all these analogies while GW broke a nation's heart & soul !??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/20/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 125 fans permalink

What the author of this piece of dreck misses is the fact that Gorbachev presided over a hollowed-out Cold War relic of a government whose control over a restive bloc of captive nations was melting right before his eyes. Gorbachev was making the best of a terrible situation by reaching out to Europe and the U.S. for a lifeline for his country, knowing it was on the brink of implosion and possible uncontrollable chaos.

The situation of the U.S. today is not even close to being comparable to the Soviet Union of the mid- to late-1980s, I don't care what those "America haters" on the Right would have us believe. In the case of statements of policy and goals, Barack Obama is speaking from a position of strength (still), while acknowledging to the world that we have made mistakes over the years and that we are prepared to work with other nations to resolve those mistakes which have hampered our and their progress.

The fact of the matter is, the previous way we have done business heretofore, which reached its apogee during the administration of George W. Bush, is no longer sustainable and is unrealistic to maintain on almost every level of analysis.

We can do much, much better and under the Obama administration, we will do better -- we and the world will be better off for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/20/2009
- zerepas I'm a Fan of zerepas 5 fans permalink

And you ALL STILL miss the point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/20/2009
- hapiday I'm a Fan of hapiday 113 fans permalink
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"One more thing: They don't know what an angry black man is, but if they keep this up, perhaps President Obama can show them".

LMAO, they truly don't know. Some how people think the president is a punk or weak. The pundits don't know what to think or say most of the time. They keep trying to compare the president to other presidents which is impossible. You cannot compare a black man to a white man. The mindset, cultural experience and worldview is totally different and this is what causes them much uncertainty. For black people there is more of an effort to be fair and respectful of others. The problem President Obama encounters is he represents a country (mostly of European decent) who's policy has always been, white is always right and we will crush anyone or anything that says otherwise. That generally is a white mindset and now we have a black president that has a black mindset. There's nothing like a black man who is constantly thinking and analyzing. Do not underestimate a black man when he smiles.

During s.l.a.v.e.r.y black folk did a lot of smiling and bowing and yessa bossing. But, in the meantime a lot of singing and planning was taking place. DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO LEAD!!!!!! An intelligent black man will debate and give you the benefit of doubt. But when he reaches his limit he will tear your darn head off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

The handshake was one made between brothas ... LMAO ! This is their itch ... they just can't say it out loud !!

Actually, I think repubs are just learning how to "publicly" embrase one another !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 04/20/2009
- Zen0469 I'm a Fan of Zen0469 72 fans permalink
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Repugnants are only capable of "embarassing" each other. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

"embracing" sry .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 04/20/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 125 fans permalink

Let's go easy on the stereotypes, "OhHappyDay," because they are unhelpful and are just too convenient. They make for lazy thinking and analysis which we do not need right now.

Barack Obama is a shrewd, intelligent, and effective leader, whether he is white or black (let's remember that he is BOTH white and black, by the way), and the nature of his upbringing and basic temperament as we've seen on the national stage for over four years now proves the point.

We certainly should not underestimate his abilities and I do not, but on the other hand, let's remember he's not perfect, much less infallible, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 04/20/2009

I think you are right. Obama's world view and approach has as much to do with his upbringing in Hawaii and Southeast Asia. Lest we forget, Obama was not raised in Harlem. BTW, I am African-American (before you start attacking).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 04/20/2009
- messy I'm a Fan of messy 41 fans permalink
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Of course Gorbechev left office when his country litteraly destroyed itself. Of course Perry threatened to secede Texas from the Union, but this is totally a different case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/20/2009

Both President Obama and President Gorbachev came to power in a difficult time for their counties, but that’s the only similarity. Because, even though Mr Gorbachev did a great job in ending the “cold war”, I think of him more as the bankruptcy judge of the USSR. President Obama has also “inherited” complex problems from his predecessor (the economy, two wars, several foreign affairs conflicts, etc.), but I see him more as entrepreneur (or the US equivalent of Mr. Lee Iacocca at Chrysler) than a bankruptcy judge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/20/2009
- vesaversa1 I'm a Fan of vesaversa1 18 fans permalink
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They have call him a fascist a communist a socialist a Muslim .The conservative media have compare him to President Carter and a host of other ,so now they are comparing President Obama to a Russian president .Will these conservatives every get over their bias bitterness and racist ideology? AP is beginning to lose all credibility in reporting the news in a fair and balance manor ,they have are pathetic .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/20/2009
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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I understand were some are coming from in criticizing Obama but rarely do I agree. I am glad he recognizes just how serious the clusterf*ck is which he inherited from his predecessor. If he p*sses off those who didn't vote for him by acknowledging our past policies made a mess far beyond our borders: Good! It's no secret. It's been in all the papers, read one someday.

It is long past the time for America to understand that the world doesn't view us like it's 1946 anymore. We are not top dog. In fact, due to generations of failed and misguided social and foreign policies, we're more like a mangy, rabid wild dog scouring the earth for resources to take. It's time our leaders spoke the truth. The voters, not big oil, not big biz and not Wall Street, gave him his job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Why are repubs continually referring to Chavez as a "dictator" ... wasn't his "democratic" election as democratic as our highest court "selecting" GW !??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 04/20/2009
- messy I'm a Fan of messy 41 fans permalink
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Well, he IS. His regime, while elected democratically, has worked dilligently to destroy human rights in Venuzuela and wreck the economy. Had it not been for high oil prices, that sad republic would be worse off than haiti.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/20/2009

By those criteria George Bush was a dictator. Bush is also a war criminal. No, I think people who call Chavez a dictator do so out of ignorance and spite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Please, I make no excuses for any who "may" be or have been oppressive to any people ! However, just how hypocritcal is it for Americans who voted for GW TWICE to point fingers at any failed stated ... after all, the tor ture of any human being is illegal & immoral !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 04/20/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 611 fans permalink
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Agreed. He's more of a despot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 04/20/2009
- vesaversa1 I'm a Fan of vesaversa1 18 fans permalink
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The Republicans have been dictators in this country for many years .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Absolutely ... their chant ... "if you're not with us, you're against us" ! That went over real well !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/20/2009
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