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STEVEN R. HURST | April 19, 2009 06:51 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has gone abroad and gored an ox _ the deeply held belief that the United States does not make mistakes in dealings with either friends or foes.

And in the process, he's taking a huge gamble both at home and abroad, for a payoff that could be a long time coming, if ever.

By way of explanation, senior adviser David Axelrod describes the president's tactics this way:

"You plant, you cultivate, you harvest. Over time, the seeds that were planted here are going to be very, very valuable."

While historic analogies are never perfect, Obama's stark efforts to change the U.S. image abroad are reminiscent of the stunning realignments sought by former Soviet leader Michael Gorbachev. During his short _ by Soviet standards _ tenure, he scrambled incessantly to shed the ideological entanglements that were leading the communist empire toward ruin.

But Obama is outpacing even Gorbachev. After just three months in power, the new American leader has, among many other things:

_ Admitted to Europeans that America deserves at least part of the blame for the world's financial crisis because it did not regulate high-flying and greedy Wall Street gamblers.

_ Told the Russians he wants to reset relations that fell to Cold War-style levels under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

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_ Asked NATO for more help in the fight in Afghanistan, and, not getting much, did not castigate alliance partners.

_ Lifted some restrictions on Cuban Americans' travel to their communist homeland and eased rules on sending wages back to families there.

_ Shook hands with, more than once, and accepted a book from Hugo Chavez, the virulently anti-American leader of oil-rich Venezuela.

_ Said America's appetite for illegal drugs and its lax control of the flow of guns and cash to Mexico were partly to blame for the drug-lord-inspired violence that is rattling the southern U.S. neighbor.

_ Said that "if our only interaction with many of these countries is drug interdiction, if our only interaction is military, then we may not be developing the connections that can, over time, increase our influence" _ neglecting to mention U.S. health care, education and humanitarian relief efforts in Latin America.

At a news conference ending the three-day Summit of the Americas on Sunday, Obama was asked to explain what a reporter called this emerging "Obama Doctrine."

He said that first, he remains intent on telling the world that the United States is a powerful and wealthy nation that realizes it is just one country among many. Obama said he believes that other countries have "good ideas" and interests that cannot be ignored.

Second, while the United States best represents itself by living up to its universal values and ideas, Obama said it must also respect the variety of cultures and perspectives that guide both American foes and friends.

"I firmly believe that if we're willing to break free from the arguments and ideologies of an earlier era and continue to act, as we have at this summit, with a sense of mutual responsibility and mutual respect and mutual interest, then each of our nations can come out of this challenging period stronger and more prosperous, and we can advance opportunity, equality, and security across the Americas," the president said.

Critics, especially those deeply attached to the foreign policy course of the past 50-plus years, see a president whose lofty ideals expose the country to a dangerous probing of U.S. weakness, of an unseemly readiness to admit past mistakes, of a willingness to talk with unpleasant opponents.

"I think it was irresponsible for the president to be seen kind of laughing and joking with Hugo Chavez," said Sen. John Ensign, a Nevada Republican. "This is a person along the lines with Fidel Castro and the types of dictatorship that he has down there in Venezuela and the anti-Americanism that he has been spreading around the world is not somebody the president of the United States should be seen as having, you know, kind of friendly relations with."

At his news conference Obama said he didn't think he did much damage to U.S. security or interests by shaking the hand of Chavez, whose country has a defense budget about one-six hundredth the size of the United States, and depends upon it's oil reserves for solvency.

But beyond specific attacks on his new foreign policy are the deeper philosophical challenges emerging from the still powerful, if diminished, conservative political structure in the United States. Such opponents can play havoc with Obama's attempts to change domestic policy and will work to weaken his 60-plus percent approval among Americans.

Obama brushes that aside:

"One of the benefits of my campaign and how I've been trying to operate as president is I don't worry about the politics _ I try to figure out what's right in terms of American interests, and on this one I think I'm right."

So thought Gorbachev. But being right is not always politically healthy.

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Steven R. Hurst reports from the White House for the AP and has covered foreign affairs for 30 years.

Filed by Marcus Baram
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has gone abroad and gored an ox _ the deeply held belief that the United States does not make mistakes in dealings with either friends or foes. And in the pr...
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One of my first thoughts after hearing that the towers came down on 9/11 was "Bush has alienated all our allies - now what? - we're dead meat here in the US".

Guess Obama is right or wrong - depending on the world you want to live in.

I just came back from the UK yesterday having withstood personal hostility from train operators -- waitresses -- ticket agents -- when they heard my accent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/20/2009
- connorin I'm a Fan of connorin 25 fans permalink

"One of my first thoughts after hearing that the towers came down on 9/11 was "Bush has alienated all our allies - now what? - we're dead meat here in the US". "

...SERIOUS­LY?????? The guy had been in office less than eight months and hadn't done all that much internationally and you already knew he had alienated "all our allies"? He was still trying to get administrative positions filled due to the stalling techniques of the Dem minority in Congress.

Please tell us all what exactly had Bush done in that less than eight month span that "alienated all our allies"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/20/2009

Of importance is the fact that the Bush administration ignored the warnings that our enemies were planning a major attack in NYC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 04/20/2009

It would be good if Americans could list all the countries who don't threaten other countries or are not involved in conflict in one column and then all the countries who do threaten or are involved in conflict in another column just to get an idea of where the world wide problems exist.

The above exercise also might help some of the less educated Republicans realize there are other countries in the world and they do matter and they do have excellent standards of living.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

"Ugly American" didn't begin with GW it festered !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 04/20/2009
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For all those uncompromising types who bash our new President because he's not acting fast enough for your druthers, your theme song should be, paraphrasing Queen, "I want it all, I want it now.." etc. In your world there's no in-between, no nuance, no negotiatio­n... We all know how far that sort of coming out of the gate like a "bull in a China shop" got Clinton in '93. He got smacked down...but big time...and was effectively neutured the rest of his presidency. You must be forgetting that you live (presuming you live in the U.S.) in one of the most extreme right industrialized nations on earth and it's simply an absolute fluke/novelty that that we've, collectively, been given the gift of Obama. What the h*ell? Do you really think you live in a country, 80 percent of whom believe in Noah's Ark, that can accept radical change (no matter how beneficial) in a short timeframe? If so, let me know so I can smoke whatever it is you have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 04/20/2009
- listentome I'm a Fan of listentome 86 fans permalink
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Great post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 04/20/2009
- eirrac I'm a Fan of eirrac 12 fans permalink
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Excellent comment!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/20/2009
- criquet I'm a Fan of criquet 6 fans permalink

Everyday, Republicans like Joe Scarbourgh keep reinforcing the comments made by Mika's father.
Obama dismissed Daniel Ortega's comments saying he was a relic living in the past obsessed with old ideas and full of stale rhetoric.
Pres Obama did this civilly and smartly because he is intelligent and understands that many of these leaders are former left-wing activists and even prisoners of regimes they see as oppressive right-wing juntas put in or helped to power to oppress indiginous peoples especially by several United States Govts.
It is obvious most of these Republican commentators either don't know or if they do are not honest enough to deal with the historical facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 04/20/2009
- WANSU I'm a Fan of WANSU 8 fans permalink

Mr. CRIQUET,..­thank you on Joe in the morning comment...­it was nice to see :Ed Randell, the Marks, and all the guests in his morning shows disagreeing with him on the latest conference in Ttr/Tobago. ONLY PAT BUCHANAN AS ALWAYS greed with Joe in blaming for every thing that took place at the conference. please, to all readers in this website: DO NOT MISTAKE PRESIDENT'S SMILE AS WEAKNESS. Not confuse the issue you may want to do research on LUOS SIDE where President's comes from on his father side ( intelligence) like Tom Mboya of Kenya in politics and Kennedys in 1960 politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/20/2009
- ceti I'm a Fan of ceti 8 fans permalink
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Gorbachev is a great man, unique in history in trying to wind down an empire peacefully. However, his experience may indeed seem eerily familiar and not altogether encouraging. Obama like Gorbachev is inheriting an unpopular war and an economy in deep trouble. Even more eery is that Obama is trying to do the same thing Gorbachev did -- reform a system while leaving the rotting fundamentals intact. Gorbachev paid dearly for his optimism, and Obama may as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 04/20/2009
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J*esus C*hrist...­you talk as if he's been in office a full-term already. You....all of you....whe­re was your g*oddamned inpatience the last miserable eight years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 04/20/2009
- FRobert I'm a Fan of FRobert 4 fans permalink

Maybe they are just overly excited because we have a President who actually listens to people. This is a reflection hopelessness for eight long years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 04/20/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 76 fans permalink

Long before Gorbachev, President JIMMY CARTER performed similar function for America.

Actually, President Ford came in & removed the scorpion stinger of Americas' colonial war in Vietnam, & Carter took up where Ford left off, remaking America as a LESS WARMONGERING nation.
(Ford lost election 1976 by FOOLISHLY listening to "advice" (manipulations!) from Cheney, Rumsfeld, & other "conservative" RightWing Repubs, Ford FOOLISHLY dumping VP Nelson Rockefeller from Republican ticket, heeding the Right-Wing jihad against "moderate" Rockefeller & taking instead dour Bob Dole... who of course turned off moderates & gave Carter a toehold for his Dark Horse victory.)

But while the Ford-Rumsf­eld-Kissin­ger-CHENEY crew had been partial to DEATH SQUADS & Secret Wars (Kissinger & Ford infamously "GREEN-LIGHTED" the INDONESIA _Islamic_ DEATH SQUADS against Christian East Timor, & of course Kissinger's pre-neo-con crew GREENLIGHTED & WHITEWASHED Pinochet's coup & Marcos' dictatorship), President Carter WORKED EARNESTLY to put a "White hat" PRO-DEMOCRACY face on America's foreign policy - leading to the peaceful revolution against Marcos.
( It's more problematic if _ANY_ US president could have forestalled the Iranian Revolution, the undercurrent of "Shah as US puppet" was too strong.)

DESPITE the above TRAUMA(s), Carter ____DID SUCCEED___ in putting that WHITE HAT back on world perceptions of America as a force for, NOT death-squad dictatorships, but DEMOCRACY.

Leading, I believe, to Gorbachev being able to tell his military & politburo that "No, the Americans do NOT want to wipe us off the map." - thereby ENABLING Glasnost, Peristroika, & the nuke-eliminating treaties with

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 04/20/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 76 fans permalink

Also, JIMMY CARTER's CAMP DAVID PEACE ACCORDS (Carter _arm-twisting_ Begin to sign those accords with Sadat)
__WERE the BASIS of BILL CLINTON's VAUNTED Mideast successes!

Clinton, & the NY/DC _NEO-CON_ crew who by the late 1990s were far to the RIGHT of "moderate" Repulicans of the Eisenhower­-Rockefell­er era, SCORNED Carter as a "hick outsider."

Despite (actually, because of) the Right-Wing Republican (& Democrat) JIHAD against Clinton (Ken Starr, Monica-impeachment, Dem. Senator Sam Nunn shooting down 'gays in military,' Joe Lieberman, etc.) by the late 1990s, Clinton was a FULL BLOWNforeign policy Neo-Con in his own right - just look at his "foundation" making $100 million (!!) from brokering the Uranium deal between Canadian mining mogul Frank Guistra, and Kazakstan's SADDAM-esque OPPOSITION KILLING DICTATOR!! http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

(here's the Forbes "NO Foul" WHITEWASH of that democracy-killling double-dealing -
http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/12/giustra-clinton-kazakhstan-pf-ii-in_rl_0912croesus_inl.html

You __can't get any more "Neo-Con"__ than Dick Cheney DOUBLE-DEALING with IRAQ - BEHIND BACK of US Embargoes in late 1990s (WHICH PRESIDENT CLINTON TURNED A BLIND EYE TO!), or Clinton profiting from Kazakhstan's opposition-killing dictator.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/oilforfood/2001/0627chen.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 04/20/2009

Gorbachev was all business all the time. He even had a map of Albania on his head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 04/20/2009
- foolchild0 I'm a Fan of foolchild0 5 fans permalink

And how did THIS not get deleted? Oh yeah, you guys only delete the provocative points you don't agree with, be they progressive or conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/20/2009
- Kristen777 I'm a Fan of Kristen777 48 fans permalink
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My favorite line of his inauguration speech:

". . . we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist."

I think Chavez's overtures constitute an unclenching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

"We don't have any complexes that would prevent us from extending our hands to each other. I'm grateful for his gesture." Hugo Chevez

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 04/20/2009
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I love that quote as well, but this is what I really see at work here:

On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord. On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas that for far too long have strangled our politics. We remain a young nation. But in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness

-Inaugural Address
January 20th 2009

Moving forward with diplomacy.­..Obama was the answer, I'm glad we got it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 04/20/2009
- december30 I'm a Fan of december30 24 fans permalink

Thank you,.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Amen !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/20/2009

All of these attempts to paint President Barack Obama as reckless by those who lose sleep at night because an African American holds the highest position in the world causes these hate filled people to try and deminish his capacity to Govern this Nation by cozying up to the Media and deluging them with all kind of negetive lables and sabotage effords that is entended to dominate whatever sucesses he has and tries to make it of none effect.

I long to see the day when those in the Media get with the program and challenge those things that are Lies.

Our President will make mistakes and learn form them because that has been consistent with his character.

There will be things we challence the President on such are prosecutions for those who ordered torture of prisioners in the U.S. care.

It is incredibly important that the Media reframe from willing supporting propaganda by not calling it out and correcting the record.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/20/2009
- kumusto I'm a Fan of kumusto 2 fans permalink

AP is a republican website so no wonder they think that way AP,POLITICO are always learning republican thats why i dont visit there website

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/20/2009
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Stop the comparisions. Obama enjoys sky-high popularity at home while Gorbachev, because he initially provided such a stark contrast to what the world was used to from "Soviet leaders", i.e., Bresnev, Andropov, Kruschev, et al., was hugely popular everywhere but his own country.

In any event, despite everyone's best efforts, Obama really can't be compared with anyone...n­ot now and, very likely, not ever. His presidency will transcend any and all comparisions and similarities to others. And by the time he's finished, the U.S. and much of the rest of the world will not be as we know it now. As I've said many times on this post, get on board the "sea change train" or run the risk of being left the f**k behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/20/2009
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Mr. Obama has launched a brand new War on Terror based on 911 lies. No troop withdrawal. No listening to the people. No change. Just a facelift to an old policy he was hired for. His popularity in Europe is rapidly sinking. Mr. Gorbachev was a hero. Mr. Obama is just a Marionette. Even the Americans should have earned something better although they never learn. Dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/20/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

Rubbish !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/20/2009
- FranklinS I'm a Fan of FranklinS 13 fans permalink
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Beg to differ. deacon 'hits it out of the park'.
Sadly, Mr. Obama is just a cruel deception.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/20/2009
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'Mr. Gorbachev was a hero"...su­re he was, everywhere but his own country. Your theme song should be, paraphrasing Queen, "I want it all, I want it now.." etc. In your world there's no in-between, no nuance, no negotiatio­n... We all know how far that sort of coming out of the gate like a "bull in a China shop" got Clinton in '93. He got smacked down...but big time...and was effectively neutured the rest of his presidency. You must be forgetting that you live (presuming you live in the U.S.) in one of the most extreme right industrialized nations on earth and it's simply an absolute fluke/novelty that that we've, collectively, been given the gift of Obama. What the h*ell? Do you really think you live in a country, 80 percent of whom believe in Noah's Ark, that can accept radical change (no matter how beneficial) in a short timeframe? If so, let me know so I can smoke whatever it is you have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/20/2009
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Let's think about that "Gorby v. Obama" question:

Gorbachev was in office when the Soviet Union collapsed and his policies may have accelerated that collapse.

Is that a comparison that is flattering to Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/20/2009

I suppose that depends on whether you were a big fan of the Soviet Union. If you prefer a less totalitarian form of government then I'd say it is favorable comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 04/20/2009
- armadillo I'm a Fan of armadillo 37 fans permalink
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Bravo Mr. President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 04/20/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 233 fans permalink
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Heh.) And, the rightwing are, simply, BESIDES themselves: 'What? How dare he admit, we're not the rightest, bestest, mostest, everything­iest..!'

Somebody pass mourningjoe a book, quick!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/20/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 103 fans permalink

Could "Morning Hoe" been more idiotic than he was this morning? Maybe he needed to show Pat Buchanan that he was the REAL alpha male in that sorry crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 04/20/2009

Joe was especially grumpy this morning and Mika unusually quiet (even for her)...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 04/20/2009
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