Bank of America Posts 1Q Profit, Tempered By A $13B Loan Loss Provision

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IEVA M. AUGSTUMS | April 20, 2009 04:59 PM EST | AP

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Bank of America Corp. warned of worsening loan default problems Monday even as it posted a first-quarter profit of $2.81 billion. Investors concerned about the banking industry's health sent financial stocks and the overall market sharply lower.

Although Bank of America said higher revenue from the purchase of Merrill Lynch & Co. helped offset a surge in credit costs, it took a $13.4 billion provision for credit losses during the first three months of the year. The amount of its problem loans more than tripled to $25.7 billion and CEO Ken Lewis said he couldn't predict when the bank's credit morass would end.

The bank's stock fell $2.58, or 24.3 percent, to $8.02 as the overall stock market plunged. Last week Wall Street was happy with better-than-expected results from JPMorgan Chase & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc., but investors have been rethinking that initial upbeat response. Banking companies generally benefited during the quarter from unusually strong bond trading, a trend not expected to continue, while recession-driven loan problems persist and are expected to worsen this year.

Also weighing on investors is uncertainty about the government's "stress tests," analyses of bank finances to determine if they'll need more bailout funds if the economy worsens.

Over the weekend there were statements from administration officials that banks may need more government capital," and "the markets are reacting," said Gary Townsend, chief executive officer of Hill-Townsend Capital LLC.

Stress test results are due in the coming weeks.

"The economy hasn't hit bottom, the credit cycle hasn't run its course," said banking industry consultant Bert Ely. "We have a few more quarters of touch and go on profitability because of all the credit losses that are being taken."

Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America earned $2.81 billion after paying preferred dividends, or 44 cents per share, compared with a profit of $1.02 billion, 23 cents per share, in the year ago period. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters expected profit of 4 cents per share.

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Bank of America, as other banks have done, attributed its profit to trading activities on markets including bonds.

"Like it or not, capital markets is now a core business for Bank of America, and that has more volatile returns than other businesses," said Celent banking analyst Bart Narter. "Bank of America is no longer exclusively a retail bank and there can be more fluctuations."

But troubled loans, also known as nonperforming assets, increased to $25.7 billion from $7.8 billion a year ago. The bank also lost $1.8 billion on credit card services, after posting a profit a year ago.

"Credit is bad and we believe credit is going to get worse before it will eventually stabilize and improve," Lewis said during a conference call with analysts. "Whether that turn is later this year or in the first half of 2010, I'm not going to hazard a guess."

Lewis has been under intense pressure this year over the Merrill purchase, which closed Jan. 1. Shareholders approved the deal before learning of big losses at the New York-based investment bank and reports surfaced that Merrill paid billions of dollars in bonuses to employees before the deal was completed, even as Bank of America was begging the government for aid to complete the acquisition.

With the company's acquisition last year of mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. and its expansion into credit cards after buying MBNA Corp. in 2005, Bank of America is mired in two businesses that are suffering. Consumers are spending less and defaulting more often as they worry over declining home values and rising unemployment.

"Bank of America is more exposed than their competitors in these areas, and it hurts them on the consumer side of the business," Narter said.

Bank of America recorded a $13.4 billion provision for credit losses in the first quarter and set aside $6.4 billion as additional reserves to cover future losses.

The first-quarter results include revenue from the company's acquisitions of Merrill and Countrywide. Revenue more than doubled to $35.76 billion, mainly from the addition of Merrill. It was also helped by a $1.9 billion pre-tax gain from selling shares Bank of America owned in China Construction Bank. Bank of America continues to own about 17 percent of the common shares of the Chinese bank, it said. Analysts expected revenue of $27.13 billion.

Bank of America has received $45 billion in government funds as part of the Treasury Department's $700 billion financial rescue package. Lewis has made remarks of his intentions to repay the government as soon as possible.

Townsend said he isn't certain that Bank of America is able to come up with the money, unlike Goldman Sachs, which has already raised capital.

"Bank of America is not yet positioned to repay the TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) and move itself away from the rather uncomfortable embrace of the United States government," he said.

In the investor conference call, Lewis said his bank won't need more capital from the government, reiterating a theme he's touched on often in recent weeks. Asked about the government converting its preferred shares in the bank into common, Lewis replied, "We think we're fine but it's out of our hands ... This is in the hands of the regulators at the moment."

An analyst at Standard & Poor's equity research division, however, said Monday that "a capital raise can't be ruled out."

While Bank of America benefited from stronger-than-expected trading and refinancing revenue, "we don't think revenue is sustainable," wrote Stuart Plesser in a research note. Plesser maintained a "hold" rating on Bank of America's shares.

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Bank of America Corp. warned of worsening loan default problems Monday even as it posted a first-quarter profit of $2.81 billion. Investors concerned about the banking industry...
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- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 48 fans permalink

Today is Monday, April 20, 2009. I'm in Allentown, Pa, USA. I'm using the HUFFINGTON POST. Where is the news of US banks which failed over the week-end? I must have missed the change, if no US banks failed over the week-end. Now HP is telling me that a few mega-banks & other financial enterprises are making profits. This may prove that the only constant condition in the USA is change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

OK, Obama...I want you to make certain that all these banks give back EVERY EFFING PENNY they borrowed, that every ridiculous hike in credit card fees is dropped, and any new absurd fees they have been instituting are finished..­.of course BoA would make a profit, but it is off the backs of average Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

Why should credit card fees be dropped?

Like all these problem businesses, the American public took on too much debt, including credit cards. If hiking the fees makes people become more prudent about putting everything on plastic, ultimately it's a good thing.

You don't like fees? Pay cash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/20/2009
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 194 fans permalink

Sometimes, people have to have credit cards. Ever try to rent a car without one...it is impossible.

They can be used reputably and properly, but BOA is doing something without honor and is acting like the oil traders.

We had a BOA card, which became BOA when they purchased another card we had with whom we had cards for twenty years. We had never missed a payment during that time, rarely carried a balance of more than twenty percent of the card, and had a very high credit score. Then, they increased our rate by ten percent. I called and spoke with them and the man was rude, rude, rude. Then, we failed to receive our statement for three straight months. We had never not received a statement. That required us to go online and see the balance, which we paid off. No other mail had not arrived. By paying in this manner, we had to pay a FEE.

It infuriated us. They could have ruined our credit with this maneuver. When we went in to our regular bank and applied for a card there, to replace the BOA cards, my friend, who has been the branch manager there told me we were the fifth couple to come in with the same, exact story about BOA in two weeks and they all switched and dropped BOA. That type of behavior is CRIMINAL, or it should be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/20/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 264 fans permalink

The Government does not want them to return the money. 13 trillion of wealth went POOF. That reduced the money supply.. the purpose of the money was to increase the money supply to make up for asset devaluations cuased by Americnas not being able to pay their debts and importing more than they export. Making nothing.


legally when assets are devalued, the banks must reduce loans/credit. Thats the law,

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/20/2009

Ken Lewis makes the Somali pirates look like boy scouts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 04/20/2009
- Zenfull I'm a Fan of Zenfull 17 fans permalink
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I've had a B of A credit card for 4 years, never late on a payment, always paid back more than the minimum. I was carrying a high balance that was generating more than $100 in fees to B of A every month. B of A unilaterally raised my credit line several thousand in 2006, hoping to increase my use of their credit even though I was retired. I told them to rescind the higher limit as I neither wanted nor needed additional credit. In 2008, they raised my APR to 21%. I called them to complain and they lowered the APR to 18%. At the beginning of 2009, I began to make large payments to pay off the credit card with the goal of being "debt free". Last month, I helped my daughter with a car that needed a lot of work. I borrowed nearly $2K on the credit card to pay for her insurance and car repairs so she could get to her new job 55 miles away. This month, I get a letter from B of A raising my interest rate to 25.74%! I'm not overlimit. My credit score is over 700. I will pay off the remaining balance, cancel the card, move my accounts to a community bank or credit union. I hope other customers of B of A will do the same so they can no longer count on our regular payments every month toward their profit line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Good move...let every one do this at once.. We'll see how these b---tards do next quarter...
Pay back that TARP money, NOW, PIGS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 04/20/2009
- parrotista I'm a Fan of parrotista 3 fans permalink

No, don't let them pay back the TARP money. They want to pay that back because that's the money that came with strings attached. That's money they owe that really feels like money they owe.

Well, good. They do owe. They owe you, they owe me, they owe the entire American Family. It's insulting that they think they don't owe once they pay back the TARP money.

- Craig

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/20/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 264 fans permalink

Guess what, Federal Bank Auditors require them to maintain solvency based on risk and credit card defaults are high, increasing. They are forcing by interest rates people to pay down their debt... 14 trillion, highest percent of GDP since 1929.

Your interest rates are being raised because of the defaults of your fellow Americans just like you pay more everytime you shop because of shoplifters who diont pay for their goods.

The argument of more credit when in fact everyones credit card is maxed out is absurd. The idea that we want banks to deregulate and yest make more loans is not matmatically possible.


The Banks are a scape goat for an entire country that brought this on themselves , ye with help from banks and the government we elected.. A super power that imports more than half of its cars... nolonger makes computers, consummer electronics, appliances, ships and cant cloth it self or feed it self.


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/20/2009

Yeah you're right...th­ey're not a bunch of greedy pigs...the evidence just makes them look that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 04/20/2009
- CoyoteMan I'm a Fan of CoyoteMan 3 fans permalink
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25%? You'll get a better deal from Organized Crime!
Incidentally, why isn't the Federal government demanding 25% interest when these criminals repay their Federal loans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/20/2009
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 194 fans permalink

The government has to go after these banks on their credit card activity. They are abusing the very people who saved their behinds after they were highly irresponsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/20/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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How about this?

Bailed out banks are not allowed to say they posted a profit until their balance sheets are completely transparent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Nice idea, but they will never do it...Gheit­ner won't allow it, and since he has gotten Obama to drink the Wall Street Kool Aid, Obama won't want it either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/20/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Why did George Bush deny the IMF the ability to assess the entire US financial system until his final year in office?

Banks,Hedge funds, the FED?

WHY???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 04/20/2009
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Complete transparency is impossible. We would have to become fortune tellers. Accountants would have to trade in their green eyeshades for crystal balls (not phony ones; crystal balls that actually work).

In other words, complete transparency would require knowing the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 04/20/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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So your giving the banks another out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/20/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 187 fans permalink
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All if this is BS! Geithner says we will need another 2 trillion dollars to stabilize the banking system but all these banks are all too eager to prove they are profitable. I don't know how to square these two seemingly irreconcilable positions. On one hand one hears of the report of reduced lending by the biggest bailout banks and on the other hand we have profits. I'd like to know how an insolvent bank makes a profit by lending less. Increased credit card interest rates which will drive more people bankrupt? A bit of creative accounting perhaps?

Obama administration's handling of financial crisis is just irresponsible. You cannot find one eminent economist outside the government defending these policies. Why do we tolerate such nonsense? Would we tolerate it if this were a Republican administration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 04/20/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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"Why do we tolerate such nonsense? Would we tolerate it if this were a Republican administration?"

We tolerated the Republican administration`s antics for far too long and look where it got us.

A complete and abject economic failure provided by the Bush administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 04/20/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 187 fans permalink
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At least some of us were showing displeasure with Bush but now one does not even hear much noise against the what appears to be perfect continuation of Bush's policies. Obama is getting a free ride on this critical issue but I don't think it is going to last indefinitely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Of course not...and we didn't with Bush, when iit became obvious what he was doing...th­is is not a left-right, Dem-Repub issue...it is an issue of allowing taxpayer money to be spent for people who care more about shafting the public and fattening their bottom line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/20/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Bullshit, it didnt become obvious until Paulson said it was obvious. The Bush administration lied to the public about the recession right up until they were leaving office and bilking this country out of trillions of dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 04/20/2009
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The mantra of the Republican resurgence is that this is not left-right thing, or a Rep-Dem theng. The Republicans would love nothing more than for the people to become gullible enough to believe that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/20/2009
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Totally disagree on Obama's handling to date - it's been rock solid.

Right now the Republicans are the party of NO more bailouts. Why? Because they want this turkey to crash and burn before the mid-term elections. That way, they might win back congress.

See, if there re no more bailouts, that means capital rules could force big banks to liquidate. If they liquidate, they have externalities that WILL bring down other companies that are otherwise healthy enough to survive the downturn. If that happens unemployment will hit 30% in no time - almost instantly. That is what "too big to fail" is actually about - the deaths of innocent bystanders.

Who wants this? The Republicans want that. They would do anything, ANYTHING, to get back in power.

How do you make more profit on lending less? You sell assets at a gain. BoA sold a stake in a Chinese bank at a profit. They can only sell it once. They also recorded a gain on the expectation that they will get to swap out expensive ML debt for cheaper debt - also probably a one-time event.

So you will probably get your wish next quarter. BoA will record a big loss, and in some convoluted manner that I can not possibly understand, you will be saying the Obama administration has improved its handling of the crisis?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/20/2009
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The continued blind allegiance to the Mark to Market rule as configured prior to FASB's recent repair (the rule was broken and societally dangerous) continues to astound me.

The believers in free markets think the market knows all - like a big big brain. So they take each and every pronouncement of the market as gospel. Me, I think the market has no brain at all.

So if the market says an asset is worth 22 cents on a dollar, a true believer in the free markets accepts that finding. He might think it's little undervalued or overvalued, but he's unlikely to think it wildly off.

So in the 8th year of the Bush administration, a mark-to-market rule over which the banks and Republican politicians, in the majority, no doubt had great influence, gave perfect results? Try to think about it. Your little diatribes about the banks now being able to "lie" about asset values is based solely upon this notion that Bush, the Republicans in power, and the business lobbyists created a virtually perfect rule that told the "truth" about asset values.

BoA took another 13 billion reduction in asset values:

debit expense: 13 billion
credit loss provision: 13 billion

Okay? That drove down their net income by 13 billion dollars. How much of that was determined by the new rule is not yet clear, but I don't think it has really set in much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 04/20/2009
- Epiphany2b I'm a Fan of Epiphany2b 17 fans permalink
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I wish depositors would remove their money from these big banks who have so much money they can buy investment firms, etc. but use "stolen" money from their credit card customers, and deposit it in the small-town banks that have been fiscally responsible over the years and didn't have to have money to bail them out.

I would rather pay 16% interest (the going rate for over-draft protection loan) to the local bank than 9.9% to a big bank, knowing that rate could jump at any time for any reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/20/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 264 fans permalink

All you would do is drop the value of the assets in than banks and then they must reduce lending more... thats the law...

Small banks really dont do Business loans of any size!

What shows is that they still have huge losses coming fromCredit card bsusinesses and you wonder why interest rates are going up....

Personal debt is 14 trillion.. first time its been 100% of GDP since 1929.

Bad as repugs not taking responsibility is Americans not tlkaing responsibility for massive debt, deindustrialization and sending our own MFG and high tech jobs over seas so we go buy cheaper products on credit.

For the past 8 years there was no real exconomy.. 14% came from money on home refinanicing at thats gone.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 04/20/2009
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Fire Geithner. Fire Summers. Their plan stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

It's not their plan that stinks. It's the mess we find ourselves in.

Name even one alternative who could do a better job. (And don't say Krugman or Roubini who are just grousers in the cheap seats, and have yet to come up with a better plan to fix things.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 04/20/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 187 fans permalink
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Any randomly picked patriotic American? ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 04/20/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 264 fans permalink

And whats anyone elses plan.. Based on the 42 nationalization done to date the cost of nationalizing the banks would be 14 trillion..­.

Funny, but if BofA was having losses... that would show their plans were working? LOL.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 04/20/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 98 fans permalink
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Does this whole thing remind anyone of the massive profits Big Oil made on US a year or so ago? More profits than any other corporations in the history of the world ( adjusted for inflation)???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/20/2009
- Epiphany2b I'm a Fan of Epiphany2b 17 fans permalink
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I don't think it was that long ago. They posted incredible earnings just this year, I thought.

And what about the electric company fiasco in California a few years ago? All caused, I hear, by "speculation" rather than actual cost of electricity. Wasn't that also a big part of the cost of oil going out of sight -- Wall Street speculation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 04/20/2009
- elsieach I'm a Fan of elsieach 2 fans permalink

How difficult is it to make a profit when you've received a massive infusion of cash from the nation's taxpayers, cash which you were supposed to lend back out to middle America, but you instead chose to express your appreciation by doubling and tripling middle America's credit card interest rates and other assorted fees and hold on to the cash you were supposed to be lending to them.
Boycott Bank of America. It and Capitol One were the first of the banks to jump on the stick-it- to- the- credit-card-holders wagon. I've closed two accounts with them and will never do business with them again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Shocking arrogance is a given with these banks...an­d Obama is loathe to end it...I do not expect miracles from Congress' credit card bill...the lobbyists for the credit card companies will wine, dine and cajole Congresspeople into continuing the status quo, and Obama will be more than happy to oblige.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

Your hostility seems a little too...pers­onal. If you're having problems with your credit cards, shouldn't you be looking at yourself first?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/20/2009

great now maybe they'll give me the 25k I need to keep my business going.

BOA sucks, as soon as I can get out from under them I will...nev­er bank with a multi-state national bank, they screw you every chance they get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/20/2009
- rsaillant1 I'm a Fan of rsaillant1 25 fans permalink
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All BoA employees, from smug Ken Lewis at the top to the latest hired-n
bank teller, who think of their company as some grand institution , should learn
the meager beginnings of their company.

Started in the streets of San Francisco by Mr. Giannini, an Italian immigrant,
who labored long days hauling his pushcart up and down the steep hills of
that city. It all began with him, a man who understood the meaning of hard
work.

Ask spoiled-brat, arrogant elitist, Ken Lewis to do a hard days work, where he might
ruin his maincure or get his shoes scuffed, and he'll cry like a baby within
5 minutes. He has the perpetual look of a bawler, anyway....­...so sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 04/20/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Lewis is a s--bag, as are all the other bank heads...th­ey think the world is their oyster, and who gives a s--t what the public has to do to hold on to the money THEY earned at their corrupt banks...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

Can't believe a word of these fake "earnings" reports the banks are putting out. With the recent changes to mark-to-market accounting, the banks can manipulate the value of their toxic assets to anything they want. A repeat of the Japanese zombie banks of the 90's. That plus the unprecedented liquidity pumped into them by the government (at the low low price of 1% interest), how can these banks not produce some bogus "earnings". These are still essentially insolvent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 04/20/2009
- Samalabear I'm a Fan of Samalabear 66 fans permalink
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I'm totally cynical about the whole thing -- yes, I think the whole thing is bogus. But this kind of reporting isn't done for people like you and me, who are reading about this whole mess from a variety of sources. This is for the sheeple that don't read past the headlines or the sound bytes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 04/20/2009
- SamKnause I'm a Fan of SamKnause 73 fans permalink

Keep telling the truth and maybe everyone will catch on to their tricks. Some people still believe that they made a profit for real and they are not loaning because no one qualifies for a loan or everyone is unemployed. Maybe if we repeat it enough everyone will wake up to the fact that we have been had in a very big way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/20/2009

Right you are, nibblybits. Thanks for reminding the public of this simple but very important and insufficiently discussed fact.

With the blessing of our current administration, the banks and other financial corporations are allowed, even encouraged, to once again lie to us all about their assets and liabilities. Their statements about quarterly gains and losses, and their financial status, just cannot be relied upon. So much for rehabilitation of the financial sector.

BTW, this continued resort to "smoke and mirrors" is now brought to you courtesy of Barack Obama and Tim Geithner, who have bought off on this unsavory practice. Simply put, it allows these corporations to further perpetrate massive faud on the public. It is another of the inexplicable and indefensible aspects of Obama financial policy, of which there are many.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

Well, people aren't suckers. BofA is trading down 10% this morning and the market is down 200 points. Nobody believes these bogus numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 04/20/2009
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

PS. This isn't Obama or Geithner's fault, and I resent you trying to make it so. Blame your god GWBush, Cheney "Deficits don't matter" and Phil Gramm. If there's one lesson to be learned from all this, Republicans with their complete and total faith in unregulated free-for-all capitalism and stacking the deck for rich people can't be trusted. They ruined us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 04/20/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 264 fans permalink

WE had no problem at Japan loaning Toyota zerpo percent loans for 15 ears while it never reporyted a profit in the U.S.....

Mark to market does not work when the market is broken.

If you believe that market is funtioning then last December you would have sold me your house for ten percent of what you paid for it.. because thats the value the market placed on your house which was the security behind the CDOs.

Pls note in cash basis accounting, an investment loss as no effect on a banks cash...

Amazing that some of you think Credit Investment, Debit Investment loss fixes our finanicial problems..­.. LOL.


Regards


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