Dimon: Iraq War, Greed Contributed To Economic Collapse

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the economy.

Dimon cited "an expensive war in Iraq" as one of the possible triggers of the economic collapse. Spending on the war ballooned the deficit and crowded out investment in domestic priorities. Meanwhile, the trade deficit soared.

"I suspect when analysts and economists study the fundamental causes of this crisis, they will point to the enormous U.S. trade deficit as one of the main underlying culprits. Over an eight-year period, the United Sates ran a trade deficit of $3 trillion. This means that Americans bought $3 trillion more than they sold overseas. Dollars were used to pay for the goods. Foreign countries took these dollars and purchased, for the most part, U.S. Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. It also is likely that this process kept U.S. interest rates very low, even beyond Federal Reserve policy, for an extended period of time."

Those depressed interest rates, in turn, pushed air into the housing bubble until it popped.

Dimon also cites the 2008 energy crisis as a shock to the economy that played a part in bringing it down. The energy crisis may still have occurred without the instability in the Middle East caused by the U.S. invasion, but with Iraq's oil supply knocked off-line for years, it didn't help.

Dimon also places some of the blame for the crisis on greed for ever-higher profits, which he refers to as "irrational pressure...to show increasingly better returns." The system he's referring to -- which pressures companies to steadily increase returns due to the cost of capital -- is called capitalism.

"Many other factors may have added to this storm -- an expensive war in Iraq, short-selling, high energy prices, and irrational pressure on corporations, money managers and hedge funds to show increasingly better returns," offered Dimon.

"The modern financial world has had its first major financial crisis. So far, many major actors are gone: many of the mortgage brokers, numerous hedge funds, Wachovia, WaMu, Bear Stearns, Lehman and many others. Some of the survivors are struggling, particularly as we face a truly global, massive recession -- and it still is not over," he wrote.

Read his analysis in his letter to shareholders (PDF). If you find anything else noteworthy, let me know at ryan@huffingtonpost.com.

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the...
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- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 04/21/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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funny how none of the ivy greed ceos were saying this when Bush was in office...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 04/21/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 35 fans permalink
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no kidding!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 04/21/2009
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Wow...I could told people this 4 to 5 years ago. How do I apply for a CEO job?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 04/21/2009
- MSaxe I'm a Fan of MSaxe 29 fans permalink

Dimon is just attempting a little legerdemain through misdirection.

It's not the Iraq War that allowed the Wall Street investment banks to put the world economy at risk by defrauding investors and allowing credit default swaps to be rated as AAA when they were worthless insurance contracts with zero capital behind them. Don't even try to tell me that these cream of the crop executives didn't know what was going on. They cashed their checks. They knew.

He's sitting in the real hot seat, no matter how much praise his contemporaries throw his way. He's just another Wall Street crook trying to cover his tracks and lead you astray.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 04/21/2009

The war in Iraq contributed to heavy deficit spending that ballooned the national debt and has severely weakened the dollar. Also, created a massive culture of corruption through private contractors.

BTW, you are probably right about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 04/21/2009

well, ironically a weak dollar is good for debtor nations to get out of the deficit..but it hits the middle class you don;t have their wealth stored in bullion.

I met Dimon back in early 2007 before the credit crisis..thought he was decent...but it's true...if you're a top wall st. manager, you're a shark. it's the culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 04/21/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 305 fans permalink

The war alowed oil speculation by cutting off 3 million bbls a day. The high price of oil then forced the FED to raise interest rate 7 times to fight the oil induced inflation.. This started an economic down turn which also forced the varaible interest rates up on the mortgages.. which then with job looses, inflated food/energyu cost started the freclosure ball rolling.

However in the end the real problems lie in 30 years of deindustrialization, loss of MFG jobs, 30 years of trade deficits and us buying cheap products from slave wage countries on borrowed money which built new plants there, transfered 5 million MFG jobs offshore, while our plants rusted and no net proivate sector jobs were created in 8 years and the jobs created were McJobs.

The jobs created by the credit/housing bubble money are now gone and that money generated 14% of our economy. So now MFG jobs gone (most import jobs in any economy) and the credit/housing bubble jobs...

Our purchasing, free trade and over borrowing for 30 years caused the problems.. we voted for this by what we voted for and what we purchased.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 04/21/2009
- simply18 I'm a Fan of simply18 5 fans permalink
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I like you explanation. Also, after the great depression the stock market has been regulated and it works very well for about 50 years. This is after those fifty years that they started to unwire those regulation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 04/21/2009
- moongal6 I'm a Fan of moongal6 79 fans permalink
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Of course, the war economically is killing our economy.
I think the most damaging thing was the Fed's keeping the interest rate artificially low.
That did real long term damage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 04/21/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 305 fans permalink

Interest were low in the 50s/60s... Not a bad thing.


Low interest rates are good. It was people getting loans that should not have qualified and the securities generated being rated AAA that is one of the many problems... followed by variable interest rate laons.. whcih then became killers when the FED raised interest 7 times to fight oil induced inflation caused by Iraq war and the enron loophole allowing massive oil speculation...

The high commodity prices started the job losses. An inflation problem quickly became an asset devaluation problem...


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 04/21/2009
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 208 fans permalink

Bush's war on lies, the unwillingness of the administration to admit the costs, the deregulation, and the greed generated by all that money being in the hands of a few very wealthy people who demanded higher and higher returns for that money given to them by Bush fueled this.

If Congress does not put some transparency into the commodity markets and do so soon, at their first opportunity the oil companies and speculators will be at it again, and it could be the knockout punch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 04/21/2009
- roselaw I'm a Fan of roselaw 10 fans permalink

Its about time people started looking at the connection between the wars and our collapse.

During Vietnam, Johnson tried to give the US a war without sacrifice. He inflated the economy to give us both guns and butter, and left us with years of painful inflation.

When Bush's precious wars went badly, the last thing he wanted was to ask for sacrifice (raising taxes to pay for the war, instead of passing the debt to our kids, for example) his message was "go to Disneyland." He and his cronies wanted to heat up the economy, at whatever cost, to get him reelected in '04, and to get a Repuglicon elected in '08. Easy money, lack of regulation, massive deficit spending? All good for short term stimulus and re-election, all bad for our collective future, and he almost pulled it off....the recession hit just a few months too soon for that worm to slither off to Texas, and then blame Obama for this disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 04/21/2009

We are losing the war on poverty

We are losing the war on drugs

We are losing the war in Iraq

We are losing the war in Afghanistan

We are bankrupting our Country on useless wars and Financial greed

Until we recognize these facts and do something about it we will have no peace or prosperity

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 04/21/2009

war on poverty being misnamed aside, poor and unemployed people are bad for the economy,,,better to get more people working = higher GDP; so we actually should be trying to reduce it FYI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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The hybrid bank entities go to the government and ask for billions of bailout money. Guess what? They are not using the bailout money to lend. These entities keep the bailouts and form an insider trading circle to manipulate the market (the good old boys network is still intact).

Not possible? Notice how the government doesn't ask where the money is going after it's doled out? Accounting rules (GAAP) allow these entities to show money is still in the books, but not how it is used. Since nobody has any idea how much the bank's derivatives and CDOs are worth, if these hybrid entities lose money to market gambling, they go back to Washington and ask for more bailouts, claiming the CDOs and derivatives are ki-lling them.

You will only see strong manipulation with Dow Jones Industrial Average, because there are only 30 stocks to manipulate, and 300 billion goes a long way compared to say, S&P 500.

The Plunge Protection Team (PPT) pulls the strings by providing ammo (money) through government bailouts. This forms plausible deniability if PPT was found out to be manipulating the market; finger pointing would logically point to Goldman, JP Morgan, et al.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Market-Manipulations-Come-From-Goldman,-Citi,-BoA,-JP-Morgan-Investment-Divisions&id=1764549

MARKET MANIPULATIONS Come from Goldman, Citi, BofA and JP Morgan Investment Divisions

http://investment-blog.net/market-manipulations-come-from-goldman-citi-boa-jp-morgan-investment-divisions/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 04/21/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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hmmm ......nice work ... i will copy the links for reading .....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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GEITHNER HANDS OVER ALL MORTGAGES TO JP MORGAN

Once again, we have to talk about Jekyll Island and JP Morgan and how this whole Federal Reserve thing came into being.

The Feds are giving JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs our entire mortgage market! You heard me right: they are now the custodians of almost ALL of our mortgages! And what are they? The owners of the Federal Reserve!

Time to dig into this, as usual. It is so tiresome and utterly necessary if we want to fix things. And do not despair! These frantic efforts of the criminal class are falling apart! We must be read for the next stage: when even the average American is fed up and full of fear.

http://emsnews2.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/geithner-hands-over-all-mortgages-to-jp-morgan/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 04/21/2009
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 255 fans permalink
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Carolab,

Study the role of J.P. Morgan's main auditor, Benjamin Strong, in the audit of Knickerbocker Trust in October of 1907. There ain't noth'in new under the Sun! Just more of the same! Nothing new or original at all in 2008. Nothing whatsoever. Paul Warburg must have blood moving around in his body in his grave through the last eight months. These boys have always played to win and they are winning on every throw of the dice. It is just amazing. You have to have a kind of grudging admiration at the the sheer demonic scope of it all. Wow!

HM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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History of the Federal Reserve System -- from its creation to its present

http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/8926844

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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There was a real irony in the recent intervention by the Federal Reserve System to provide the money that enabled the firm of JPMorgan Chase to buy Bear Stearns before it went bankrupt. The point was to try to prevent a domino effect of panic in the financial markets that could lead to a downturn in the economy.

The irony is that it was about a hundred years ago -- 1907, to be exact -- that the original J.P. Morgan arranged a bailout of a troubled financial institution for the same purpose of preventing a panic that could end up with the whole economy declining. The difference is that J.P. Morgan and his fellow bankers used their own money, while the Federal Reserve System used their power to create money. What that means is that the value of your money and my money -- all Federal Reserve Notes -- goes down when more Federal Reserve Notes are issued to subsidize the purchase of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan Chase. It wasn't really a bailout because the stockholders of Bear Stearns lost their shirts. But the firm of JPMorgan Chase got money from the government to seal the deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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Benjamin Strong was President of the Pilgrims Society from 1914-1928. He was the first Fed Pilgrim-President of the New York Fed.. The Fed is populated by members of the Society.

All the important members of the 1910 Jekyll Island meeting were Pilgrims; Vanderlip, Strong, Warburg, Davison, Norton, and Aldrich. Senator Aldrich’s closest ally in congress, Edward B. Vreeland, was a Pilgrim too, together with his brother. Vreeland helped Aldrich establish a privately owned central bank. Of course, J.P. Morgan, George F. Baker, John D. Rockefeller, and Jacob Schiff were members also. Keep in mind these people were often competing with each other and weren’t necessarily friends, as so many (conspiracy-oriented) people seem to think.

Pilgrim-presidents of the New York Federal Reserve Bank cover the period from 1914 to 1979. The 4 presidents since then have not been members as far as we know, although that’s probably because of a lack of recent data. Pilgrim-chairmen of the New York Federal Reserve cover almost the entire period from the 1920s up to 1990, so we can safely assume that the New York Federal Reserve Bank is owned by the Pilgrims. That’s not that unusual, because New York itself is Pilgrims property.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_pilgrimsociety01.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 AM on 04/21/2009
- Stilts9 I'm a Fan of Stilts9 50 fans permalink
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Jamie's a real bright boy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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JP Morgan got $138B in Fed funds and gave them back to Lehman's, after Lehman's bankruptcy -- even though the Fed said it didn't have the authority to bailout Lehman's directly in the first place, and that there was not enough capital.

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=9446 J

PM also got billions from the FDIC through the Fed in the takeover of WaMu. The FDIC handed WaMu over to JP Morgan, who in turn gave the FDIC WaMu's NYC banks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e8oqACjrXQ&feature=related

WaMu sued on March 20 and in turn JPMorgan sued the FDIC and Washington Mutual. http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=ACBJ&date=20090324&id=9725806

ALSO, close examination of the situation shows the Fed provided unsecured funds to JP Morgan (not Bear Stearns directly) for JP Morgan to bail out Bear Stearns, rather than the Fed bailing out Bear Stearns directly.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2008/03/shotgun-wedding-bear-stearns-and-jp.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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Everyone is calling at once, and more often than not, their questions pertain to a singular event that rocked the financial markets, the Fed-financed bailout-cum-acquisition of Bear Stearns by J.P. Morgan Chase--a desperate move played out over four he-llish days in mid-March, the most significant government intervention in the financial markets since the Great Depression.

Geithner was the central figure in that drama. It was Geithner"s Federal Reserve bank, not the Treasury, that came up with the $29 billion loan that made the deal possible or, more precisely, acceptable to J.P. Morgan.

http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2008/05/12/New-York-Fed-Chief-Tim-Geithner

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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Morgan (Dimon) manipulated this crisis into being!

JP MORGAN brought down Bear Stearns AND Lehman Brothers: JP Morgan ‘brought down’ Lehman Brothers

JP MORGAN has been accused by its Wall Street rivals of dealing the final hammer blow that forced Lehman Brothers into collapse in a sensational claim that threatens to spark a colossal legal battle. The giant American bank is alleged to have frozen $17 billion (£9.6 billion) of cash and securities belonging to Lehman on the Friday night before its failure. According to Lehman’s biggest creditors, this was what precipitated the liquidity crisis that embroiled the firm, forcing it into Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on the morning of Monday, September 15.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4882281.ece Naked Short Sales Hint Fraud in Bringing Down Lehman

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&refer=home&sid=aB1jlqmFOTCA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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In March 2008, the Fed extended a $55 billion loan to JPMorgan to "rescue" investment bank Bear Stearns from bankruptcy, a highly controversial move that tested the limits of the Federal Reserve Act.

On September 7, 2008, the U.S. government seized private mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and imposed a conservatorship, a form of bankruptcy; but rather than let the bankruptcy court sort out the assets among the claimants, the Treasury extended an unlimited credit line to the GSEs and said it would exercise its authority to buy their stock, effectively nationalizing them.

Then the Federal Reserve announced that it was giving an $85 billion loan to American International Group (AIG), the world’s largest insurance company, in exchange for a nearly 80% stake.

What had to be saved at all costs was not housing or the dollar but the financial derivatives industry.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10265

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 426 fans permalink
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llen Brown, "The Secret Bailout of JP Morgan: How Insider Trading Looted Bear Stearns and the American Taxpayer"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8974

JP Morgan Brought Down Lehman

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4882281.ece

What's the Difference Between Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns? Lehman's CEO is on NY Fed Board

http://ezinearticles.com/?Whats-the-Difference-Between-Lehman-Bros-and-Bear-Stearns?--Lehmans-CEO-is-on-NY-Fed-Board&id=1247540

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/21/2009
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 51 fans permalink

do bankers do crack.lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 04/21/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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no....they do us....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/21/2009
- ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 242 fans permalink
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sad but true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 04/21/2009
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 114 fans permalink

no way wars make us profits.

besides they have 40 years of oil.

that is pure black gold.

go usa.

god it is great to be an american and the world does nothing when we torture people and invade and occupy other countries.

it is good to be the king. ie superpower.

signed
just your average american

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 04/21/2009
- lynnn I'm a Fan of lynnn 42 fans permalink

Duh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 04/21/2009
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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Are we supposed to be surprised?

Surprise!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 04/21/2009
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