Dimon: Iraq War, Greed Contributed To Economic Collapse

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04/20/09 04:50 PM

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the economy.

Dimon cited "an expensive war in Iraq" as one of the possible triggers of the economic collapse. Spending on the war ballooned the deficit and crowded out investment in domestic priorities. Meanwhile, the trade deficit soared.

"I suspect when analysts and economists study the fundamental causes of this crisis, they will point to the enormous U.S. trade deficit as one of the main underlying culprits. Over an eight-year period, the United Sates ran a trade deficit of $3 trillion. This means that Americans bought $3 trillion more than they sold overseas. Dollars were used to pay for the goods. Foreign countries took these dollars and purchased, for the most part, U.S. Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. It also is likely that this process kept U.S. interest rates very low, even beyond Federal Reserve policy, for an extended period of time."

Those depressed interest rates, in turn, pushed air into the housing bubble until it popped.

Dimon also cites the 2008 energy crisis as a shock to the economy that played a part in bringing it down. The energy crisis may still have occurred without the instability in the Middle East caused by the U.S. invasion, but with Iraq's oil supply knocked off-line for years, it didn't help.

Dimon also places some of the blame for the crisis on greed for ever-higher profits, which he refers to as "irrational pressure...to show increasingly better returns." The system he's referring to -- which pressures companies to steadily increase returns due to the cost of capital -- is called capitalism.

"Many other factors may have added to this storm -- an expensive war in Iraq, short-selling, high energy prices, and irrational pressure on corporations, money managers and hedge funds to show increasingly better returns," offered Dimon.

"The modern financial world has had its first major financial crisis. So far, many major actors are gone: many of the mortgage brokers, numerous hedge funds, Wachovia, WaMu, Bear Stearns, Lehman and many others. Some of the survivors are struggling, particularly as we face a truly global, massive recession -- and it still is not over," he wrote.

Read his analysis in his letter to shareholders (PDF). If you find anything else noteworthy, let me know at ryan@huffingtonpost.com.

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the...
JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the...
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- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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BREAKING NEWS:

Obama bows to and shakes hand of Mexican President's dog:


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/gallery-obamaamericas2.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/20/2009
- KO4Pres I'm a Fan of KO4Pres 185 fans permalink
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OMG, impeach now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/20/2009
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 403 fans permalink
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That is one big chihuahua! ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 04/20/2009
- Mike4Obama I'm a Fan of Mike4Obama 40 fans permalink
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What a traitor!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 04/20/2009

I agree that the cost of the war with Iraq was and still is costing the USA a lot of money.

But my question of Dimon is: Surely our selling of fraudulent mortgage packages to the world resulted in some real money transfers to the USA; who has that money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/20/2009
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 91 fans permalink
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He does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 04/20/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

Where did the trillions Obama gave away go to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 04/20/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 224 fans permalink
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To us, luckily, since he's not the mayor of Baghdad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 04/20/2009
- Nomccain I'm a Fan of Nomccain 38 fans permalink
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The man is exactly right!!!! When you finance a foriegn war or wars on borrowed money, a tremendous amount of borrowed money, the results cannot be anything but catastrophic. If Bush envisioned being able to finance the war on Iraqi oil after Iraq was conquered, he screwed up royally. When you combine that with the unbridled greed and corruption of those on Wall Street and the U.S. Contractors, you have the big picture. Finally, the lack of oversight and fiscal management did us in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/20/2009
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For a country that is a mere 200+ years old, the US is in a great big pile of do-do and they're dragging the entire world down into it.
Your massive government which continues to grow with each administration, and produce less and less to the common folk; your massive collections of intelligence agencies to... what? Who in the H are you afraid of?
With three branches of government, which is (suppose to) provide you checks and balances instead they are all operating from behind the same closed doors?
Can anyone name me one tangible thing that this administration has done to provide "immediate" relief to you taxpayers? They're helping everyone else but YOU?
Is there not something wrong with this picture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/20/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 224 fans permalink
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Tax relief began in April

Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay act

unfreezing lines of credit

2000 infrastructure projects

double amount going to IMF

picking the winning b'ball team (ok, jk on that last)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 04/20/2009
- dhinds I'm a Fan of dhinds 27 fans permalink

When W was in the Texas Air Guard he borrowed a fighter jet to visit his girl friend and once he became Commander and Chief....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 04/20/2009
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cheeney and his war profiteers f.*.c.k.e.d us blind.

Government no-bid contacts should be a crime.

Unless you like paying 10,000 dollars for a stainless steel impact device ( hammer).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/20/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 323 fans permalink
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That has been going on as long as I can remember.

When I was in my late teens - early 20's they were paying 5,000 for a toilet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 04/20/2009
- VegasBabe I'm a Fan of VegasBabe 200 fans permalink
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and hundreds of thousands was discovered being payed out for like a few rolls of toilet paper too wasn't there? I remember something bizarre like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/20/2009
- Bullwinkie I'm a Fan of Bullwinkie 16 fans permalink

Most of that was BeeEss to make government look inept, brought to you by the reaganite Gov is bad crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/20/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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they f uc k ed us real hard ...i fear that.... we may never walk straight again .......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/20/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Jamie Minon: I'm going to try and distract you so you don't hold me accountable for my poor performance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/20/2009
- PandJonB I'm a Fan of PandJonB 3 fans permalink

Point the finger at anyone but me! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 04/20/2009
- KewlJoJo I'm a Fan of KewlJoJo 200 fans permalink
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Obama has been bailin
Out Gov. Serra Paylin
She might think he's a d0rk
But she dint refuse his p0rk
Oh tea bags
Tea bags
Not Sea Hags
But tea bags

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/20/2009
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As far as capitalism goes, it is motivated not by competition, but by sheer unbridled greed. This is what happens when "morality" is anchored in nothing but words, otherwise known as "ethics."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/20/2009

f*uck Jamie Dimon....He and his fellow bankers are to blame for all our problems. They are behind the war and the financial collapse....Please, everybody, realize that the dems and the repubs are virtually indistinguishable. Nothing has changed!!! As long as there are two parties in control no real progress will occur. Progress = lessening the gap between the rich and poor. You must all realize that THE BANKS OWN THE GOV'T. Our 'democracy' is artificial and is only a label. There is nothing democratic about our gov't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/20/2009
- KewlJoJo I'm a Fan of KewlJoJo 200 fans permalink
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Sounds like Ralph Nader - how'd he do in the last election???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 04/20/2009
- Bernique I'm a Fan of Bernique 45 fans permalink

I heard on the radio today that it may be a crime to advocate for "third parties"!! I don't believe it, but the intimidation might intimidate some. From now on I'm voting Green, or Independent, the ONLY choices WE have (most European countries field 10-12 parties at each election). Are you ENVIOUS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 04/20/2009

I dont disagree with what the guys says, but consider for a moment the "2008 energy crisis" he mentions.

From Midway through 2001, the price of gasoline and oil crept up on us. It spiked over $3 multiple times, and only went down at least by us to a low of $1.89/gallon, But spent most of its time well over 2-3.xx/gallonn for that time span.

In 2001, i could get gas for $1.10/gallon and I paid about $35/week in gas for two vehicles for my wife and I, working, shoppin, church, kids to school, etc. Very little "extra joyriding". 32-35gallons a week, 15-18 gal each

When gas got to $2/gallon It now cost me with those same vehicles - car and minivan per week approx $60-65 wk.
That shot my commuting and necessity driving up from $140/month to $250 or so a month.
Any extra driving added to the pain.
@ $3/gal our costs now went up to nearly $400 month or an increase of $3120 per year over when Bush took office. @ the 'Crisis' - $4.30/gal - driving with extra cut out = ~$7200/yr in gasoline taken from incomes ranging from $20k/yr to $60k/yr that impossible to handle.
Oil/Gas of course also raised prices for just about everything else petroleum based and delivery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 04/20/2009
- Bernique I'm a Fan of Bernique 45 fans permalink

TrooAmerican --they want you to feel so angry that you'll go buy a g un and join the En AR AY. To do what with? They don't tell you but the g un dealers, and amm o purveyors will be making out like band its. And publicly deplore any har m you might have caused. Putty in their hands. Wake up, America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 04/20/2009

oh I know, most of my friends are republicans that only read the Hate-email chains that get sent around by their buddies, constantly make racist, bigoted, hateful comments about things they know nothing about, dont watch the news, dont listen to NPR, and clean their guns all day, just Wishin for a shooter to come by so they can prove carrying a concealed handgun will protect them just like in those dumb emails....that are all wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/21/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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The reality that the denial ridden Republicans are unwilling to face:


"The big idea of this book is that 2008 looks to be a realigning election -- a very rare event in American history. The previous three were 1896, 1932, and 1980. Translation: The Democratic majority is going to last for a while. There have been 38 presidential elections since 1860, and Obama received the 6th highest share of the vote for a Democrat. Only FDR (four times) and LBJ (once) exceeded Obama’s percentage. There were three giant demographic shifts that powered this:

-- The young broke more than 2-1 Democratic, and it was an intense preference unlikely to fade quickly. As this group ages and replaces older voters, Democrats will benefit even more since this group’s turnout will go up.

-- The proportion of minority voters (black, Hispanic, and Asian) sh.ot up and is likely to climb consistently every four years (mainly because of Hispanics). Democrats get about three-quarters of the votes of min.orities, taken as a collective group.

-- Americans with post-graduate educations have begun to move firmly to the Democrats, not just because of Bush and the economy but also because of the GOP’s conservative stance on social issues (abo.rtion, ga.y rights, etc.)


--Larry Sabato

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/Sabatos_realignment.html#comments

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/20/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 323 fans permalink
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He was on msnbc. Great news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/20/2009
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The great Dick Cheney just called for on Sean Hannity's Show on Fox that the CIA formally release ALL the classified documents that show the information that we gained by using the various interrogation techniques inlcuding waterboarding. OK President Obama, be transparent COMPLETELY, not just with what benefits you politically.

We all have a right to know that information and how it protected us and prevented further terrorist attacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2009
- 1MCMetal1 I'm a Fan of 1MCMetal1 26 fans permalink

Yeah , because Cheney's call was definitely out of concern for what benefits America , and not another ruse to try and help along Bush's pathetic "legacy" ....................


Get a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/20/2009
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Drinkin' the Kool-Aid again? You still believe anything that comes out of Darth Cheney's mouth?

Pitiful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 04/20/2009
- Car84 I'm a Fan of Car84 6 fans permalink

In Barack Obama's world, transparency applies only to what happened during the Bush years. Or so it seems. Bills can be Blitzkrieged through Congress and onto his desk and signed before we even have a chance to understand what's in them. That's not transparency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 04/20/2009
- graceland9 I'm a Fan of graceland9 224 fans permalink
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Barack Obama's world: so much better than bizarro world

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 04/20/2009
- Bernique I'm a Fan of Bernique 45 fans permalink

yeah, right, with tort ure. Anything they wanted to hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/20/2009
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Da

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2009
- MJJM I'm a Fan of MJJM 6 fans permalink

We need to organize a real Tea Party about the GREED Capitalist!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2009
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Let's not borrow any ideas from the GOP. However, I do agree that there needs to be a protest against all excessive CEO pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/20/2009
- Car84 I'm a Fan of Car84 6 fans permalink

I bet the attendees will be less civil, more messy, and less likely to have paid a significant amount of taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 04/20/2009
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Good evening.

OT

I don't like what I see happening with President Obama and Chavez. I don't like that he feels he needs to over explain. That's not cool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 04/20/2009
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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He has to because the neocons are complaining about that handshake.

A HANDSHAKE???

Is that what the neocons have resorted to, complaining about HANDSHAKES and BOWING???

They're going to be outta power for a loooooooooong time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/20/2009
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Why is he giving that faction so much power? That bothers me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 04/20/2009
- Bernique I'm a Fan of Bernique 45 fans permalink

They own the media -- radio, TV , magazines, newspapers. Anything they whine about will get MAJOR coverage no matter how ridiculous. Until Obama breaks up the media monopolies, they will work against him. But we know he has now the power to change them, and if he doesn't then ... we will conclude that he doesn't want to change them. That he is one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 04/20/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/20/2009
- FTP I'm a Fan of FTP 7 fans permalink

Nothing like a 3 man - Free for all - No choice they have to eat eachother - If they want to pass by - The lumber-jacks - called the american public - Standing all around - - Bears on the bulls and the lions for both - - Three mansion on a hill - Two shall crumble - One shall remain - Least all three parish - Americans for all.

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