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New Obama, Chavez Video Emerges: A Tense Exchange?

Huffington Post   First Posted: 05/21/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:15 PM ET

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In video footage from Venezuelan state television that emerged Monday, the interaction between President Obama and President Hugo Chavez this past weekend at the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago is shown to have not been all smiles and back-pats, as has been widely reported.

In the video, there seems to be a level of subtly awkward discord between the always-cool Obama and a rather peripatetic Chavez. A description from the Los Angeles Times notes:

No smiles in this exchange. In fact, Obama at first appears eager to walk away and is held back by Chavez. The American president then dominates the ongoing discussion and is seen gesturing with his right hand and pointing his finger several times at Chavez's chest.


No word yet from the White House on the contents of this little-known exchange.

HT: Jake Tapper

UPDATE: Some readers note that while the exchange between Chavez and Obama appears serious, it does not seem particularly heated or hostile. The reporter in the segment does not report anything new beyond what has been reported elsewhere, namely, that the two leaders got along well and expressed mutual respect. Though some have construed Obama's mannerisms in the video above to be tense, it may very well be that the leaders were discussing something serious beyond the fanfare of the event -- rather than from any perturbation or provocation from either side.

Other readers caution that Venezolana de Television, Venezuela's state run network and the only station to catch these particular encounters on tape, is often labeled by critics as a propaganda machine for Chavez. By these accounts, any state-provided interpretation of the conversation may require a grain of salt. The full conversation between the two leaders is yet to be commented on by any US representative.

The segment translates roughly as:

"At the end of the whole meeting President Barack Obama returned to approach President Hugo Chavez again, he took him again by the shoulder and told him, "Bye bye, my friend," which means, "Goodbye, my friend." We're going to replay for you exclusive images from Venezolano de Television (station name), a world introduction. It was the only media of all the press teams that have worked here on coverage of the 5th Summit of the Americas, that has obtained images of this encounter -- images, in video as well as photo, which can be seen by the whole world on the internet as well as, of course, the weekly offering of Venezolana de Television.


"This encounter, which we remind you took place today, would be the second opportunity in which the heads of state shared a moment at the 5th Summit of the Americas. The first was yesterday, if you will remember. President Hugo Chavez gave a gift [indiscernible] to Barack Obama, the book 'Open Veins of Latin America' by Eduardo Galeano. And we correct that that would not have been the first meeting. The first meeting was precisely during the inaugural session, when President Barack Obama approached to greet President Hugo chavez. And President Hugo Chavez in reciprocity gave him this gift by Eduardo Galeano, which, as we commented before, since that moment has risen in sales on an international scale. This meeting marked yesterday's summaries by the media. Not only here in Trinidad and Tabago, but the photo of this meeting was in the world, of this handshake between Barack Obama and Hugo chavez.

"As we were telling you, in the press releases we have been able to read, it is reported that this meeting between both heads of state has been of respect, cordiality and trust. For his part, Barack Obama has committed to not interfering the in internal affairs of the countries of this hemisphere. All have faith in these meetings that have taken place here, the meeting between Barack Obama and UNASUR, and the meeting between central American countries..."

According to John Hopkins University's Eduardo Gonzalez, the difference in this footage, as opposed to the previously publicized interaction when Chavez presented Galeano's book to Obama, is that this exchange is less ceremonial and far more authentic. "Hugo Chávez remains attentive and remarkably relaxed in listening. It is unthinkable that high-octane-Hugo would have listened to Obama, as attentively and relaxed as he seems, while feeling that he was being lectured at. I find the clip reassuring and remarkable as a testimony that a real connection was made. The earlier contact between them was more ceremonial; this one was almost off the cuff and physical, what we call in Spanish 'en confianza': amazing."

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Update below In video footage from Venezuelan state television that emerged Monday, the interaction between President Obama and President Hugo Chavez this past weekend at the Summit of the Americas i...
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10:06 PM on 04/25/2009
I love my POTUS!
01:33 AM on 04/22/2009
Lost in Translation. POTUS Obama speaking to Chavez in the most appropriate way. The Latin way, full of gestures and eye contact. Tension is not seem here, or by any means a conformation. I love the way POTUS Obama learns quickly the ways of who he speak with, it just shows how in tune he is in present situations. LOVE IT!
12:13 AM on 04/22/2009
Seems like two world leaders speaking two different languages through an interpreter to me and having a calm serious discussion. What is this all about????

President Obama, like many AA's speak with his hands and use them more when speaking to someone who uses a different language.

I cannot believe that news is being made out of this. Listen, two leaders went to a summit and they talked. That is that!

Give it up!!!!!
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dwright
Religion is man-created.
08:00 AM on 04/22/2009
many people speak with their hands, I do and I am a white female, the lady who works for me is Italian and need I say more.
11:17 PM on 04/21/2009
+ lets remember the fact that Chavez was giving free home heating oil to poor Americans until he got sick of Bush. Chavez is a propagandist, sure... he isn't the one invading other countries though.

To be clear, i think Chavez could do a lot to improve himself. He just is not the demon he is made out to be.
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12:52 AM on 04/22/2009
how do you know? by anychance you live in venezuela? lavici
03:26 PM on 04/22/2009
lavici, I for many months a year and a half ago exchanged e-mails with an middle upper middle class Venezuelan women whom I was introduced to by a mutual friend.

She was very pro Hugo Chavez in spite of the fact her family had lost the ability to travel to Miami a couple of times a year to shop, mostly her mothers complaint.

One of my very close friends, whose name I will withhold since I can not speak for him publically, was the Financial Attache to the American Embassy in Caracas and knew Chavez well. He did not demonize Chavez but rather disagreed with the economic decisions he was making, believing it would eventually cause the financial ruin of the country, an issue only time will tell.

Chavez is the choice of the majority of the Venezuelan public, whether the rightwing in this country chooses to accept that or not. He does not agree with American Hegemony nor should he if he and the majority his country feel that way. He believes his country should profit from their own natural resources and not some outside interest, beginning to sound a little like U. S. Sugar?



I believe President Obama is doing an amazing job in foreign policy to this point.

We must learn to live with our neighbors and realize they will not all agree with every point of self-interests which we present them and at the same time learn to respect their sovereignty.
06:30 PM on 04/27/2009
How do you know, jusk ask the Venezuelans that are leaving their country because their companies have being taken over by Chavez's governament, his opposition is being killed by his left-radical secret police (the university student head of the student's opposition front), imprisoned (if lawfully elected) or looking for asilum outside their country.
What has our president and our country have to gain shaking hands with the hard left thughs?
10:14 PM on 04/21/2009
O'Reilly had his body language host analyze the video. It's good to see President Obama take a stand if that is what he is doing in the video. He should not let Chavez belittle him with insults. Obama is the man taking charge in this exchange!
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08:02 AM on 04/22/2009
omg! you watch O'Reilly and believe it? If O'Reilly did have a segment that indicated Obama was in charge - it is spot on. The man IS in charge in every situation he participates in - he is a genius at making individuals feel comfortable, yet they end up being the one schooled.
07:23 PM on 04/21/2009
To the extent this post is redundant as to addressing WHY we have hated Chavez for so many years, I apologize. We started hating Chavez when he nationalized his country's petroleum industry (one of the largest in the world) for the preposterous notion that the poor citizens of Venezuela should be the beneficiaries of their country's most valuable resource rather than foreign companies. This royally pissed off the foreign oil interests and their government--ours in particular (United States). We decided to support a coup of the Chavez government by backing Pedro Carmona, at the time the head of Venezuela's largest business owners organization. Carmona met with the Bush administration during the weeks leading up to the 2002 coup--which lasted less than 2 days. Within that tiny window, our government managed to recognize Carmona as the president of Venezuela. Chavez's overwhelming support from the citizens who took to the streets as well as key parts of the military caused the coup to fail. Big surprise that he was not a fan of W after that. More telling is the fact that those who were behind the coup were not summarily tried and executed for treason (as they would be under our laws). I think part of our collective awakening involves reevaluating those that we were instructed to hate by the previous administration.
07:12 PM on 04/21/2009
Look at the body language
Obama is always in command
Dude is cool
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06:57 PM on 04/21/2009
Disgraceful!!!! Who does Obama think he is??

Obama’s High-Powered Ride to the Airport
By Jeff Zeleny
On The Road - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

AMMAN, Jordan — The king drove the senator to the airport.

After dinner at His Majesty’s palace tonight, known here as Beit Al Urdan, Senator Barack Obama was headed to catch a plane to Israel. So King Abdullah got behind the wheel of his dark-gray Mercedes Benz, Mr. Obama hopped in the passenger’s seat and they headed through the streets to Jordan/Queen Alia International Airport.
09:40 PM on 04/21/2009
What am I missing here?
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06:18 PM on 04/21/2009
We miss the good old days of real foreign policy complete with flag burning, effigies and shoe throwing thats what real tough Americans get
06:13 PM on 04/21/2009
I wish I can read lips. Any lip reader here?
05:02 PM on 04/21/2009
Tense my aS* Obama was having a good time with an self-proclaimed socialist - the Obama type ...
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dwright
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08:09 AM on 04/22/2009
give it a rest and go back and crawl under your rock. By the way please allow no member of your family to collect Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment, call the police or fire department. And please, by all means - home school your children. The list is too long here to list all of those nasty socialist policies that you are involved with, so . . . . go away.

We are a democratic republic with socialistic programs by the way, we are not a Socialist country and never will be.
04:40 PM on 04/21/2009
Seems like HuffPost is making a mountain out of mole hill. What I saw in the video was two leaders having a good will discussion.
04:15 PM on 04/21/2009
The fascination with all things superficial never ceases to amaze me. First tthe teleprompter and now this nonsense. There are a lot of things the right-wing doesn't know about the friggin handshake incident. Check out the latest previously undisclosed "handshake incident" details here: http://markallenreport.blogspot.com
04:14 PM on 04/21/2009
reminded me of don corleone laying out the law of the land to the other mob bossess
cordial and polite but with enough muscle to let them know who's still the boss.
03:48 PM on 04/21/2009
It is now obvious, Chavez did not hate GW Bush because GW is American, no, he hated GW. Period!
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10:06 PM on 04/25/2009
Good point! Obama, "It's a new day!"