Obama's Intelligence Chief: Banned Techniques Yielded 'High Value Information'

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04/21/09 09:32 PM

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New York Times:

WASHINGTON -- President Obama's national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.

"High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qa'ida organization that was attacking this country," Adm. Dennis C. Blair, the intelligence director, wrote in a memo to his staff last Thursday.

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WASHINGTON -- President Obama's national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant inf...
WASHINGTON -- President Obama's national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant inf...
 
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It’s very important whether valuable information was obtained as the new intelligence boss claims.

If you obtain information that prevented another terrorist attack, you are essentially protecting the right to life of many people. The right to life is defined as a basic human right under article 6 of the UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

And with it there go many other basic human rights – such as the right to free expression, free movement, to get elected, elect your representatives, etc., the whole package.

So if by applying 30 or 40 seconds of waterboarding on somebody like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed you prevent a terrorist attack and thus protect the human rights of many people, from a human rights POV you did a lot of good actually.

The unhinged left should finally get over this, possibly applying one of these three options:

- get a life
- get a shrink
- both

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 04/23/2009
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Every dictator is thus excused because their methods "yielded high value information."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/22/2009

This man, who basically turned a blind eye to the slaughter in East Timor by the Indonesian govt., has no credibility on this subject.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 04/22/2009
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The highest value information it yields is the following: If the government has the power to do that to them, then it has the power to do that to you.

Shame on anyone in favor of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 04/22/2009

When is all of these torture memos I keep hearing about going to come out? When did Americans turn into such PC PU**YS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/22/2009
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"...but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means,” Admiral Blair said ..."

In other words "other means" as in, not torture, were not even attempted.
Not only is that sadistic, but it throws any information gained into doubt.

The military has now created several thousand criminals who get off on torturing people, who will eventually be loosed onto America's civilian population.

I feel safer for that.

So sadism was the first resort, and the lies to excuse it were invented later to justify it.
Kind of like we attack Iraq first and then invent a bunch of lies to justify assaulting and murdering a million or so innocent Iraquis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 04/22/2009
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This is a classic case of CYA. Put it in a memo to make it true, never mind that field operatives reported the exact OPPOSITE is true. Torture nets you bad intel. Period. There's evidence to suggest some of the Iraqi WMD claims were coerced through torture, thus proving people will say ANYTHING to make the pain stop.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 04/22/2009
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Blair is a Republican Mole. He leaked his lies to NYT to boost Cheney and undermine the Obama administration. Even Seymour Hersh knows this man is a Rethug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/22/2009
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This debate is bringing out all the Cheney plants throughout the government! At least we will now know who they are!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 04/22/2009
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Are you kidding me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 04/22/2009
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Really! Any member of His staff who advocates breaking not only US Law, but International Law which has be on the books for decades, should be fired. Robbing a bank yields much cash, but it is Still Illegal to rob banks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 04/22/2009

If I needed money I could steal from someone and get the money I need - that does not make what I did right or acceptable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 04/22/2009
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people are missing the point. a special investigator isn't going to look into whether it worked but whether it happened. torture is against the law. cheney should have kept his mouth shut. better to be unfairly tried in the court of public opinion then a fair trial in a court of law when the charge is torture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 04/22/2009
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I bet Khlaid hates torture now. Especially after his role in the beheading of Daniel Pearl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 04/22/2009
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Khalid is a criminal. Period.

No matter how much Rush Limbaugh and his cultists may wish it so, it still provides no justification for *Americans* engaging in torture. Period.

Leland R. Erickson

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 04/22/2009
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Blair is Cheney's mule. He needs to go. He is sabotaging the Obama administration. Why did he leak this info to NYT at a time when Mr. Obama is trying to clean up the Bush-Cheney mess? Blair needs to go. He is the Cheney mule inside the administration that Seymoure Hersh wrote about recently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 04/22/2009
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So in light of this information, that waterboarding helped stop specific terrorist acts, ask yourself if 'preserving our reputation in the world' is worth another 9/11 type attack?

I hope so, because it's on YOUR shoulders if it happens again. The far left is what is pushing this agenda, and they'll bear all responsibility of the reprecussions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/22/2009
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