Buner Pakistan: Taliban Militants Move To Expand Control Outside Swat Valley

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ZARAR KHAN | April 22, 2009 11:00 PM EST | AP

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A student walks on the debris of a school building allegedly destroyed by militants in Mingora, capital of Pakistan's troubled valley of Swat on Tuesday, April 21, 2009. Taliban militants are setting up checkpoints in a district next to the valley, a lawmaker said Wednesday, spurring fears that a government-backed peace deal imposing Islamic law in the area has emboldened the insurgents to expand their reign. (AP Photo/B.K.Bangash)

ISLAMABAD — Taliban militants have extended their grip in northwestern Pakistan, pushing out from a valley where the government has agreed to impose Islamic law and patrolling villages as close as 60 miles from the capital. Police and officials appear to have fled as armed militants also broadcast radio sermons and spread fear in Buner district, just 60 miles from Islamabad, officials and witnesses said Wednesday.

Pakistan's president signed off on the peace pact last week in hopes of calming Swat, where some two years of clashes between the Taliban and security forces have killed hundreds and displaced up to a third of the one-time tourist haven's 1.5 million residents.

Critics, including in Washington, have warned that the valley could become an officially sanctioned base for allies of al-Qaida _ and that it may be just the first domino in nuclear-armed Pakistan to fall to the Taliban.

"The activities in the Swat do concern us. We're keeping an eye on it, and are working daily with the Pakistan military," Maj. Gen. Michael S. Tucker told Pentagon reporters in a 35-minute videoconference call from Afghanistan.

Supporters of the deal say it will allow the government to gradually reassert control by taking away the militants' rallying cry for Islamic law. Many residents are grateful that a semblance of peace has returned. A handful of officials are back in Swat.

The agreement covers Swat and other districts in the Malakand Division, an area of about 10,000 square miles near the Afghan border and the tribal areas where al-Qaida and the Taliban have strongholds.

The provincial government agreed to impose Islamic law in Malakand, and the Taliban agreed to a cease-fire that has largely held.

In recent days, the Swat militants have set their sights on Buner, a district just south of the valley, sparking at least one major clash with residents. The moves indicate the militants want to expand their presence beyond Swat to other parts of Malakand at the very least, under the guise of enforcing Islamic law.

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Many in Buner are now too frightened to speak to reporters. However, a lawmaker from the area told The Associated Press that the militants had entered the district in "large numbers" and started setting up checkpoints at main roads and strategic positions.

"Local elders and clerics are negotiating with them to resolve this issue through talks," Istiqbal Khan said.

The militants in Buner also are using radio airwaves to broadcast sermons about Islam, and have occupied the homes of some prominent landowners, said a police official who insisted on anonymity because he was afraid of retaliation. He said the militants have also warned barbers to stop shaving men's beards and stores to stop selling music and movies.

The militants have established a major base in the village of Sultanwas and have set up positions in the nearby hills, the police official said. Militants also have taken over the shrine of a famed Sufi saint known as Pir Baba, he said.

The Taliban move into Buner left the Swat deal hanging from a thread, said Rasul Bakhsh Rais, professor of political science at Lahore University of Management Sciences.

"If the Taliban continue to expand in different directions and establish fiefdoms as they did in Swat, then probably the deal is not going to work and the government will be forced to scuttle that deal and go back to operations" by security forces, Rais said.

The provincial government's chief executive said authorities were prepared to use force if the Taliban didn't "pack up and go home" from Buner. But Haider Khan Hoti also pleaded for patience and rejected Western calls for a more aggressive approach.

U.S. missile attacks on militant targets in the northwest were undermining Pakistan's efforts to find a peaceful solution, he said.

"This is our country, we will have to look at our own priorities and our own interests," Hoti said. "We should not enter any friendship at the cost of our own destruction."

Since the provincial government agreed to the deal in February, Taliban fighters had adopted a lower profile and stopped openly displaying weapons in Swat as part of a cease-fire.

But on Tuesday, upon the radio-broadcast orders of Swat Taliban chief Maulana Fazlullah, the militants began roaming parts of the valley with rifles and other weapons. An AP reporter saw the patrols in Mingora, the valley's main city.

Residents from nearby towns in Swat said militants were setting up checkpoints on several roads. The residents requested anonymity out of fear for their lives.

Fazlullah ordered his fighters to withdraw again in a broadcast on Wednesday. He didn't explain why.

Swat Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan could not be reached for comment.

Khan said recently that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and other militants aiming to oust the U.S. from Afghanistan would be welcome and protected in Swat _ a statement the government condemned.

He also said the militants want to see all of Pakistan under Islamic law _ a cry echoed by several other Islamist firebrands.

Rais, the professor, said there was concern that Islamists may have concluded from the Swat deal that authorities will cave in to violent demands for Islamic law elsewhere.

"They have natural allies in the religious political parties in other parts of the country. They have social and religious networks that have support their suicide attacks and attacks against the security forces," Rais said.

"It is about the identity of Pakistan and the future direction that Pakistan can take."

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Associated Press writers Riaz Khan in Peshawar and Lara Jakes in Washington contributed to this report.

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ISLAMABAD — Taliban militants have extended their grip in northwestern Pakistan, pushing out from a valley where the government has agreed to impose Islamic law and patrolling villages as close ...
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Social Injustice, huge inequities in wealth distribution, lack of education, the absolute rule of the mighty makes this area ripe for talibanisation.

If someone's father was killed in a military operation or say someone was denied justice for a crime committed against them...and if a force with guns comes into the picture promising revenge - promises to remove those who treated them unjustly - and at the same time implies that this might be a way to heaven...
...50% might not agree to that propostion - but a good chunk will..

it's unfortunate, but there's no one but the leadership of pakistan to blame for its problems with taliban.

I'm all for peace deals, as long as they establish peace. but this swat deal has clearly backfired. and some other solution has to be found.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 04/23/2009
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Is there anyone on the right saying anything about what we should do about this? All I hear is crickets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 04/23/2009

If only people spent more time playing cricket ..............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/23/2009
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If anyone here thinks Bushie is not 100% responsible for this; you're body may exist here but your brain is lost on Pluto.

This is the result of neglect, irresponsibility and single-minded obsession on the part of the Bush Administration.

Bushes whole focus after 911 should have turned his attention to Afghanistan and Pakistan...but he dropped the ball on this one IN A BIG WAY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 04/23/2009
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Bush's whole focus after 911 should have been directed towards Afghanista­n....(it's getting late, sorry!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/23/2009
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It's too late. That bus has left the station. May want to considering withdrawing, President O.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 04/23/2009

It is your bias against Republicans/Bush that is clouding your thoughts. Please carefully study the history of the region. Yes, Bush needs to take responsibility for some of his decisions, but one can not put every blame solely on his plate. If you do, it just means you don't understand geo-politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 04/23/2009

Did anyone see this coming? Duh... there doing the same thing they did in afghanistan, slowly taking it over spreading sharia law. I doubt the pakistani gov't will last much longer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 04/22/2009
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A lot of people saw it coming a long time ago, but the GOP and the Rush Limbaugh bootlickers insisted that our main mission was IRAQ. So, we wasted countless billions in treasure and countless thousands in blood in a useless and pointless excercise in a land that was never a serious threat, all the while allowing the extremists to solidify their hold in the region from whence the attacks came.
Meanwhile, as the radical Islamists cemented their hold on power, Bush proclaimed "mission accomplished" as we delved into another six years of futile flailing in Iraq, while maintaining less presence in Afghanistan than previously thought imaginable.
Since 2003, the ratio of US servicemen has been less than the ratio of police officers in New York City, underfunded, undersupported, understaffed and underequipped.
It's no wonder bin Laden can stroll confidently through and be revered as a hero.
His acolytes have never had to deal with any outside response worth worrying about!
We were busy building an empire in Iraq.
What does the future hold?
Permanent war, and permanent debt, and eventual collapse for the USA just like the Soviets.
We wasted our opportunity to respond properly and in a decisive and final fashion.
We appeased Bush while being accused of appeasing the enemy, when all along the real enemy was sitting in the Oval Office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/22/2009

It is just not one President's fault. After the Soviets left, Afghaistan was abandoned. By whom? Afghanistan was ignored for several years by all the Presidents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/22/2009
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"However, several residents said they felt ‘scared’ and planned to leave the Buner area, fearing similar violence to that in Swat."

That is INCREDIBLY significant. If we can create a situation where people are afraid of the Taliban and want to get them out of their regions, then we have a shot at winning. There needs to be some sort of propaganda distribution mechanism, like rumors, that makes Pakistanis feel threatened and scared of the Taliban. If they do, we and the Pakistani military can come along and provide a solution. If the people in Buner are already scared, and we exploit that fear, the support will be there for Pakistan to enforce sovereignty, and our drone attacks. I really hope we spin this situation, it will kill us if we don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 04/22/2009

Only thing that will stop them is force, these guys are on a holy jihad, can't really negotiate with them if you know what I mean. Pakistan has large areas of people who are easily swayed by the Taliban's message, plus there security is better in SWAT valley now. But, they are trading their freedoms for security which isn't worth it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/22/2009
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The Taliban will be satisfied with only ruling the swat valley, and the Palestinians will be satisfied with a two state solution, and the Syrians will not want to rule Lebanon, and the FARC rebels can be negotiated with, the Tamil Tigers will be satisfied with just a small portion of Sri Lanka, and N. Korea will be happy running its dungeon on the peninsula. Remember, totalitarian ideologues will never be satisfied with any compromise, they only understand one thing----power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/22/2009
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Jerry, you are kidding right? I know, no emoticon for sarcasm, right?
If not, you're dreaming.
The Taliban is out to enforce their global Islamic caliphate, as is their historic mission.
They won't stop...ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 04/22/2009
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I am very much kidding-----I can't fathom the people who actually believe the Taliban will be satisfied with anything but total domination, that the Palestinians will be satisfied with anything short of the end of Israel and that the FARC will stop fighting to take over Columbia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 04/23/2009
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Hogwash...your ilk is was perpetuates war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 04/23/2009
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Give them one valley and next thing, they want the whole country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 04/22/2009
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The Taliban ONLY understand violence. So give them some. A lot. Destroy all Taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 04/22/2009
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they tried that already and the taliban came back stronger...not sure there is an easy solution on this one...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 04/22/2009
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Well, not so much.

You confuse the Taliban with groups like Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda and the groups like it do only care about violence, but they are extremists with a view that this war is a kind of cosmic battle between the forces of good and evil, and really can't be negotiated with. The Taliban is a group of fundamentalists who use an insane interpretation of Sharia law to justify a policy of sexism and totalitarianism that they used to run Afghanistan. They are much more like a political party, even if their views would suggest they are something worse. It is possible to negotiate with the them, but what Pakistan is doing is not negotiation, it is appeasement. This literally means that the Taliban asks for something, saying that it's all they want, and Pakistan gives it to them out of desperation and incompetence.

As for your idea on "Destroy all Taliban," that's just not possible. The Taliban will always be there, they are sexists that want Sharia to enforce sexism. Just as there will always be crazy secessionists and crazy environmentalists and crazy racists, we can't hope to destroy them, rather make them irrelevant, like Stormfront is here in the States. Meaning that while they will still try to do crazy stuff, they won't have any power or support. This can be done by limiting their friends and getting Pakistanis to reject the Taliban's ideas. That can't be done, however, without educating and rehabilitating the population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 04/22/2009

You are right about AlQaeda and the cosmic wars.But consider this.All the various groups in Pakistan are coming together including AlQaeda.You may have political grievances but terrorism is not a means to achieve them and the world should stand together on that.AlQaeda also started as mujaheedin fighters with a political agenda so we can be sure the other groups will end up also fighting a cosmic war.We can consider Reza Alsans views but ultimately he is not a security analyst.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 04/23/2009
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And then, who's next?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 04/23/2009

Finally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 04/22/2009
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Compromise or negotiating with Islamists is perceived as weakness and leads to the exact opposite of the desired goal.
There is no negotiating because there's nothing to negotiate. Submit, convert or die.
What part of this don't our governments understand?
The part where the far left insists the web footed creature that's quacking like a duck isn't a duck ?

Time to leave the state of denial and see things as they are before the Taliban and their friends al Queda get their hands on Pakistani nukes with the means to deliver the warheads ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 04/22/2009
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Mission Accomplished!!! This is what we get - the emboldening of the Taliban and the economic ruin of America and the rest of the world. Let us never forget,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 04/22/2009

Yes, it's going to get worse. They will find the nuclear storage and then what .....?

GWB started all of this chaos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/22/2009

You really do not know the history of the region.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 04/22/2009

Who would've thunk that a group of hard-line Islamist hellbent on spreading their extremist ideologies to many people as possible would be content to stay into one place? Certainly not me. What say you, Pakistani government?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/22/2009
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For anyone who has read and is aware of the basic tenets of Islam, this is a lost cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 04/22/2009
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i have a feeling that this cant afford to be a "lost cause" pakistan is a nuclear armed state.IMHO, the taliban exists because the pakistani army wants it to. I beleive it is a kind of pet mercenary force used by the pakistani army to do thing they themselves would hesitate to do, like control the swat valley to ramp up opium production. the world cant afford to have a "narco state" with nuclear weapons. interesting how American drug policy is affecting this conflict as well. the "war on drugs" a miserable policy failure that was lost as soon as it was begun, has gone nuclear. fun fun fun!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/22/2009

There are tenets and there are actions. Neither Mohammed, prohphet, nor what his followers have been doing ever since gives any cause for cheers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 04/22/2009
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so wheres "the big taliban spring offensive" everyone was talking about. I think the problem of the taliban was created by the generals in pakistan, and is sustained by the pakistani army, for reasons known to them, but that can be guessed at. the taliban are the perfect tool to keep afghasnitan destabalized, and to keep up the fear and pressure on the "civilian" govt of pakistan. i would not be suprised to learn that pakistani generals are also making a lot of money on the drug business, which regions of production seem to be constantly under the control of the taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/22/2009
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My guess is they are waiting for the arrival of the first of the 21,000 new troops. Wait and see. You are right about the generals making money on poppies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 04/22/2009
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why would they wait for another combat division to begin? sense of fair play?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/22/2009
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elites and politicians gave way to maintain their power. a handful of ppl spoke out against the Swat deal--that's nothing. these taliban will kill, and destroy to get what they want. how could the politicians not see this? they couldn't be stopped in Swat--so how could they think these fanatics would stay in swat? Ordinary civilians are helpless and have been driven out and can not take on these men bc they have no police or army security.

i would advise folks --if you want to read the pakistani take on things..www.dawn.com for excellent commentaries---

us policy towards PK is messed up--we have supported egomaniacs who care nothing abt the ppl and aid never goes to its intended recipients. It is time for a tough talk and tough action.

US troops need not go into Pakistan but its time to make the Pakistanis accountable--make them fix their country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/22/2009
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"US troops need not go into Pakistan but its time to make the Pakistanis accountable--make them fix their country."

The only way they can do that is by defeating the insurgent forces within Pakistan. I don't think Pakistani military can do that without inflicting an enormous damage on civilian population and its military. The military elites could easily end up with no army to fight with and then you end with worse situation than with what you started. There are no easy solutions in Pakistan and most "solutions" imposed from abroad are likely to fail. If there are any solutions they must be Pakistani solutions.

The entry of US forces into Pakistan will only make the situation worse and accelerate the downfall of Pakistan's government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/22/2009
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yes, the usa must defeat history. nothing has changed in this area since the beginning of time. the taliban is just another tribe carving out its influence. the only way to end the tribal warfare is to empty the area of people by any possible means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 04/22/2009
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Anyone for a spot of ethnic cleansing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 04/23/2009
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