Rick Reyes, The New John Kerry: Afghanistan Vet Speaks Out Against War Before Congress

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The U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday hosted a hearing of compelling politics and historical parallels, as an Afghan war veteran offered critical testimony of that war in front of a committee chairman who had done the same during Vietnam.

The similarities between the situation that retired Marine Corporal Rick Reyes finds himself in today and that which confronted Sen. John Kerry in April 1971 are obvious. At 28 and a few years removed from combat, Reyes has chosen to go public with reservations about the scope and direction of the military strategy his government is pursuing in a difficult terrain. Having supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election, he now is deeply skeptical about the president's decision to send 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

"We were basically destroying innocent lives and creating more enemies," he said in an interview with the Huffington Post. "That is exactly what is happening. The escalation and occupation in Afghanistan is counterproductive to what we want to accomplish and the Senate and the president should to rethink Afghanistan."

Nearly 38 years earlier, John Forbes Kerry was in a similar spot. Called before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the three-time recipient of the Purple Heart declared that an "attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy."

It was a scathing rebuke from an experienced soldier, one that thrust Kerry into the political spotlight. And, as the cause-and-effect of history goes, it led in a way to his current position as chair of the foreign relations where he oversaw Thursday's "Afghanistan War Experiences" hearing and Reyes' testimony.

Afghanistan now and Vietnam then, of course, are different theaters. When Kerry returned home from the latter in 1969, more than 540,000 U.S. troops were still deployed and some 33,400 had been killed. Today there are roughly 32,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, where U.S. fatalities have been under 700. Politically, as well, Vietnam was far more toxic than Afghanistan, which remains a largely accepted foreign policy venture for the United States. Several of Reye's co-panelists, indeed, warned against an abrupt withdrawal from Afghanistan, defining the mission as winnable.

But the symmetry between the wars and the objectors are certainly present. The progressive film company Brave New Films touted Reyes as "the New Young Kerry." Code Pink protestors, meanwhile, held up signs opposing an escalation of the war in Afghanistan by evoking the same line Kerry famously used to criticize Vietnam: "Last One To Die For This Mistake?"

Even Reyes himself did not shy away from the connection. "I want to thank Senator Kerry for giving me the inspiration of being here today. I sit here 38 years after you were in this same position," he said in his opening statement. "And similarly want to express my opinions about this occupation."

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The story of how Reyes ended up in the armed forces is itself decidedly non Kerry-esque. Growing up in East Los Angeles, he was involved with gangs during his youth before signing up with the military as a means to getting order to his life. He joined the Marine Corps in 2000 as an infantry rifleman and was stationed in Australia on September 11, 2001. "I was sitting in port and out at the bars and all of the sudden the music stopped and over the loud speaker we hear, all the sudden, 'America is under attack,'" he recalled. "We were rushed to the ships and we were told we were possibly going to go to war in Afghanistan. The next morning all the ships pulled out of port and headed to the Indian Ocean."

Reyes did a stint in Afghanistan before being sent to Iraq in 2003. His experience was like those of others, filled with chaos, violence, and undefined purpose. "Our mission was to locate terrorists," he said, "but there was no real way to locate these terrorists and tell them apart from civilians... Without any way to locate them we just had to treat everyone as a terrorist."

By 2004, having experienced both theaters, Reyes was out of the Marine Corps. The adjustment to life back at home was a difficult one for him to make. He suppressed his emotions and hid any discussion or evidence of his service from others. "When you are in a combat situation or a life or death situation, an extended life or death situation you tend to shut down your emotions in order to stay focused and complete the mission," he explained. "What happens is that when you leave the situation you can't just turn that back on. It becomes difficult to adjust to a population that really has not been through the same situation."

After some reflection, the frustration only grew. "I felt my patriotism was exploited," he said. And it bubbled over when Obama -- the candidate he voted for in 2008 in part because of his approach to foreign policy -- laid out a proposal to send more troops to Afghanistan. "We need to have a realistic view of what is happening on the ground in order to create a strategy that will make sense," he said. "That is not what we are trained to do. We are not trained to rebuild countries."

His decision to speak out and appear at hearings like the one on Thursday are a function and means of dealing with that frustration. "I feel that I am on the path to being liberated," Reyes said. "I feel I am on that road where I need to do whatever I can to make the administration rethink its decision."

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Hope all you Obama supporters are ready for the US to go into Pakistan in force. Yea, the 'War on Terror' ain't over and now we're potentially provoking a thermonuclear power. The drum beat continues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 04/24/2009
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yeah, thanks to you Conservatives,

we have driven the Taliban and Al Quiada into Pakistan.

You sure invading Afghanistan was a good idea?

more GOP mess to clean up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/25/2009

'yeah, thanks to you Conservatives'

Hmm....Ron Paul is an actual Conservative, not a NeoCon and was against The War to begin with. I fail to see how its 'our fault'. Alot of Democrats voted for The War, yet they're not responsible?

'we have driven the Taliban and Al Quiada into Pakistan.

You sure invading Afghanistan was a good idea?'

Could have been handled with Letters of Marque & Reprisal as per the Constitution. Thats EXACTLY what Dr. Ron Paul offered back in 2001 instead of using military force. So, again, I fail to see your point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 04/25/2009
- mikefina I'm a Fan of mikefina 47 fans permalink

The great outrage of Vietnam was captured in the photos of the distraught S. Vietnamese left behind on the embassy roof in Saigon. Our LEAVING was the great crime.
Wholesale imprisonment, real torture, slaughter etc. Remember too, the fate of Cambodians, left to the depravity of the Khmer Rouge.

Mr. Reyes is a brave man. I admire his service. I do not agree with his analysis, but I hope his insights are given the attention such serious thought deserves.

It is a slur on him to liken him to Sen. Kerry. Disparagement of your fellow soldier to advance yourself politically is ignoble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/24/2009
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Vietnam was just another war crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 04/24/2009
- mikefina I'm a Fan of mikefina 47 fans permalink

No. Leaving our allies in Vietnam to suffer and die was a shame. What the Khmer Rouge did were war crimes.
In the distinction lies the difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 04/24/2009
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Ugh, why are you comparing this guy to Kerry? What an insult. And I'm a Democrat. I even voted for Kerry, twice (once for Senate, I live in his state), but I voted against him in the Senate primaries, even though I didn't know the opposing Democrat from Adam. Why? Because when Kerry REALLY needed to fight for his country the most, he campaigned like a loser. He could've beaten Bush, but it at times seemed like he wasn't even trying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/24/2009

this part is interesting:

He joined the Marine Corps in 2000 as an infantry rifleman and was stationed in Australia on September 11, 2001. "I was sitting in port and out at the bars and all of the sudden the music stopped and over the loud speaker we hear, all the sudden, 'America is under attack,'" he recalled. "We were rushed to the ships and we were told we were possibly going to go to war in Afghanistan. The next morning all the ships pulled out of port and headed to the Indian Ocean."

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Has anyone ever explained how the feds connected AlQueada forces located in Afghanistan to the September 11th World Trade Center/Pentagon disasters within 24 hours? Even assuming all the plane bombers' identities were determined within hours from cross-checking known terrorist databases, how could analysts tie this disparate group of 19 men of mostly Saudi origins to a specific terrorist group in Afghanistan as opposed to the myriad range of militant sects all over the world, within less than 24 hours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 04/24/2009
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There are far more unanswered questions about the 9/11 attacks than I am comfortable with.

One of the biggest is the Pentagon attack, there was no aircraft wreckage larger than a breadbox! No tail, no wing pieces, no engines.
At 8:35 AM, the F-15s from Otis Air Force Base are sent to military-controlled airspace off Long Island and ordered to remain in a holding pattern until between 9:09 and 9:13 a.m.

Too many questions, too little leadership!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 04/24/2009
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is there going to be an end to the wars or will this be perpetual?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/24/2009
- 4Q-N4Q2 I'm a Fan of 4Q-N4Q2 7 fans permalink

I wonder if this guy's going to throw all his service medals over the White House fence, only to have them re-appear years later in a framed case on his office wall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 04/23/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 254 fans permalink
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What medals did you earn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 04/23/2009
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The guy is a hero, straight up. He didn't get lost of his way to Alabama. He volunteered and fought with incredible courage. Maybe had Bouche actually gone to Viet Nam, we wouldn't have the military debacle we have now. He would have understood the cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 04/24/2009
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Medals can be replaced. If yo earned them, you can get them again.

Maybe he changed his mind later in life. Way to bring up a non story, I bet you believed Corsi's book as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 04/24/2009
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I personally respect and admire John Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 04/23/2009
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What do we WIN?? More dead American soldiers and civilians?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/23/2009
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Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. - George Santayana

Those who do not know the truth of their history are doomed to repeat again & again - filo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 04/23/2009
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 126 fans permalink

Nobody can control Afghanistan. We're fools to even try it. Let's get out of there ASAP. If we want to help them, we should buy up their drug crops and sell them to the world at a discount as medicines. Russia failed, Britain failed, so will we in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/23/2009
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quote:
"we should buy up their drug crops and sell them to the world at a discount as medicines."

Absolutely right. This is exactly what America should do. Hungry people are angry and ready for war. People with full stomachs want to party and sing songs. It may sound stupidly simple but its stupid simplicity that's blinding our politicians. People only seek God when they are in trouble. When they are fat and happy all they want to do is party.

Look at Europe and America. We are secular because our stomachs are full and have been for a while. If we ever went hungry we would go ballistic. Seriously, imagine America without food.

The Taliban is a result of the Russian occupation. The American occupation is just extending the misery and putting our citizens at risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/23/2009
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Don't you have a bible to thump somewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 04/23/2009
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America can no more control Afghanistan than it could arrange outcomes in Vietnam. The author states that the theaters in the two wars are different. But what remains the same is the obsessive and over-hyped fear that if this single threat is not successfully managed, then American interests will be irreparably damaged. "Apres moi, le deluge."

But the deluge doesn't come. We have learned to deal with our previous Darth Vader adversaries, and the threats that motivated us to expend vast sums on weapons, war, defense--have not, alas, granted America final success or immortality.

This is not to say that political events and movements in foreign countries are not most often ugly. Much tragedy was suffered in Vietnam as a result of the takeover by the North, and tragedies will occur in Afghanistan as the Taliban takes over as well.

While lamentable, these cannot ultimately be prevented by the United States--or by Jehovah, one of its founding fathers, who himself had a taste for tragedy. Peoples in their own regions must fulfill their own destinies, however ignorant or harmful they might seem to us, so far away. Life isn't perfect. It is America's time to climb down from the pulpit of false perfection and work to do as much good in the world as it can--based upon a mature acceptance of the laws of life. Dimmesdale, deja vu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 04/23/2009
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We could have and had a real chance, but, they let it get away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 04/24/2009
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Any one who runs is a terrorist

Any one who stands still is a well trained terrorist

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/23/2009
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When I came home from Vietnam I had changed my thinking. I thought we were fighting the yellow hoard , like I was told. Actually we were only there to make money for the defense contractors. The same goes for these wars.
I can fully understand how Reyes feels and what he is thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 04/23/2009
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The war in Afghanistan is one that we can and must win. Unlike Iraq, our invasion hasn't damaged the infrastructure there, as there was almost none to be damaged. What we need is a really concentrated effort, through translators and aid workers to win the approval of the people. As well as the military to drive out the Taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 04/23/2009
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Win?

Are we going to babysit that place for a hundred years, telling them to behave, which version of God to believe in, to go get a job (where, American can't find work), to stop stoning women, to stop growing poppies?

At what point do we WIN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 04/23/2009
- 4Q-N4Q2 I'm a Fan of 4Q-N4Q2 7 fans permalink

At what point did we declare a "win" over Germany in WWII? Hmmm..... let's see.... WE STILL HAVE TROOPS STATIONED THERE 64 YEARS LATER!

At what point did we declare a "win" over Japan in WWII? Hmmm..... let's see.... WE STILL HAVE TROOPS STATIONED THERE 64 YEARS LATER!

Unlike the typical American "I want it all, and I want it NOW!" attitude, our most threatening adversary has been at this game for over one thousand three hundred years, and is more than willing to "wait us out" on this one. They've seen proof that a society with a ten second attention span that doesn't have the will, or the fortitude to fight for any belief system is an easy mark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/23/2009
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"At what point do we WIN?"

When bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and Omar are dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 04/23/2009
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How come those who say we have to "win" in Iraq or Afghanistan never define victory?

Simpletons.

Ask the Soviets how receptive Afghans are to occupiers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 04/23/2009
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 126 fans permalink

LOL. Yeah, and we'll get that approval by ripping up their opium crops and bombing them, right? This is a classic clusterf**k in Afghanistan. It's a complete mess over there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 04/23/2009
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It's amazing that Corp. Reyes looks just like a young John Kerry, even down to the 70s hair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 04/23/2009
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I loved him on Gomer Pyle USMC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 04/23/2009
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