Two Key Dems Throw Cold Water On Bankruptcy Bill

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04/28/09 04:56 PM

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Sen. Dick Durbin announced Monday night that after weeks of negotiations between Senate Democrats and the financial industry, a compromise had been reached on bankruptcy legislation -- but it remained to be seen whether that compromise would win 60 votes.

On Tuesday, a key Democrat came out against the compromise bill, which would allow judges in certain circumstances to modify mortgage terms -- a process known as cramdown. Meanwhile, a second crucial Democratic vote said that he doubted the bill had enough support for his vote to decide it one way or the other.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) spoke poorly of Durbin's compromise proposal, which is now being circulated. "I don't think it's much of a compromise," Landrieu told the Huffington Post. "My community bankers are really opposed to it and I think it's important for people to realize there is a big difference right now in the country between the health of these large international financial institutions and our local community banks...I think we gotta be careful about adopting processes and procedures that would really hurt our community banks."

Asked if she was a definite no, Landrieu responded that she was "pretty close to a definite No."

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) wouldn't say whether or not he supported the compromise, but he nevertheless expressed deep skepticism.

"My concern about this is that in our appropriate zeal to help the four or five percent of Americans who might be faced with bankruptcy, we don't unduly raise the costs of homeownership on the 95 percent who never will," Bayh, who supported the legislation last year, told the Huffington Post.

Backers of the bill say that they are close to getting the 60 votes needed; Bayh and Landrieu are key votes needed for passage. Bayh, however, painted a much more pessimistic picture, saying that he was unlikely to be the deciding vote.

"I'd be surprised if that were the case," he said. "There's been a tendency on the part of some who are advocates for the legislation to overestimate the number of votes in favor...When I was actively involved at the moment it broke down it was my impression there were no Republicans who were willing to support it and at least a few Democrats have stated openly on the record that they were in opposition. How you get to 60 with those numbers is a mathematical problem."

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Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) previously told the Huffington Post he opposed cramdown, dealing a blow to the bill, but he has yet to comment on the new compromise package.

Bayh, who has not been a principal negotiator over the last several weeks, said that he has not yet been briefed on the compromise and didn't rule out voting for it. "I'm not opposing anything -- I was one of 36 -- I voted for it. I was for getting something done in this area," he said, referencing his previous vote in support.

"But if we're not intelligent about it we're going to raise the cost on the vast majority of Hoosiers who will never go into bankruptcy and that would not be fair to them. I am for getting something done. I voted for it last year and I'd like to vote for it again this year. It depends on what the specifics are."

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America

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Sen. Dick Durbin announced Monday night that after weeks of negotiations between Senate Democrats and the financial industry, a compromise had been reached on bankruptcy legislation -- but it remained...
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- shespeaks I'm a Fan of shespeaks 35 fans permalink
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This is nothing new for Landrieu, she has been a Republican's Democrat for a very long time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/28/2009
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Landrieu's been spending too much time with Cantor. It's no coincident that she was at the Spears concert with him. I mean the same time as him. LA is so neglected from the right and left. Geeeezzz, bankers first ... again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 04/28/2009
- fuelrod I'm a Fan of fuelrod 3 fans permalink

The blue dogs are the future their younger, the liberal senators are a year or two away from the glue factory..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/28/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 414 fans permalink
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Not when the VOTERS get through with them, fuelrod. The last election showed this is a center-LEFT country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/29/2009

5 percent of all the mortgage loans at what percent of a write down -- we are talking about a lot of money. Who absorbs that loss? The bank -- they will pass the loss on down the line in increased fees. If you are buying a loan expect to pay more. If the government helps the bank by absorbing part of the write down, then that's taxes that we all pay. I guess I'd have to know who absorbs the loss under the bill at issue. Assuming that it's the bank, then I don't see how that helps anybody but the guy getting the better deal. Doesn't that just encourage bankruptcy? Don't the increased fees make it harder to get mortgage loans?

I thought Obama promised to roll back some of the changes the Bush administration made to the bankruptcy laws? Is this all we are going to get on Bankruptcy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 04/28/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 89 fans permalink
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Listen carefully. Commercial bankruptcies cost the banks and suppliers billions. Residential bankruptcies for the average American is simply small potatoes. The only reason they say its so bad, is because they have these loans leveraged at 20 times their value. That is not our problem.

I fail to see how anyone could argue that helping a family that is about to lose their roof and everything they own but a car and two thousand in cash, could be bad for anyone. Long term loses to a community and the economy far outweigh a relatively small cram down on a mortgage.

Lets be real. I believe the compromise would be to allow current mortgage holders to refinance at 4%, whatever the current balance is on their loan, regardless of current appraisal value. In turn, anyone facing the utter devastation that comes with bankruptcy, could receive the same rate, at the current value, with a 50% 5 year value repayment, should the property value exceed the appraisal within 5 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 04/28/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 414 fans permalink
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Good comment, thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 04/28/2009
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20 times?

Before Fannie and Freddie were taken over, their total market capitalization was $18 billion between them. Meanwhile they were backing over $5 trillion in mortgages.

That's what? 275 to 1 leverage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 04/29/2009

You still haven't told me who's taking the loss.

Your compromise wasn't on the table. Are you seriously giving all mortgage holders a go at refinancing? Who picks up the cost?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 05/07/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 69 fans permalink

Plain and Simple !!!
Landrieu thinks more of the banks than the ciczenry losing homes , jobs and food !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/28/2009
- dnegri I'm a Fan of dnegri 145 fans permalink

Lincoln and Landrieu....what's in the water down there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 04/28/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 217 fans permalink
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Doesn't take a genius around here to see all this infighting going on, lol. And people were calling me crazy for the Dems getting wiped out in the 2010 and 2012 elections. You are doing the work to make it happen.

As far as this bill, if it passes on one penny of debt onto anyone, then I'm against it. The government has been throwing good money and bad banks and bad wall street for far too long. It's like to let the terminally ill corps die the death they are supposed to. That's capitalism, survival of the fittest. Meanwhile, since this is still supposed to be a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC, that mean the govt should be spending all of that money to help out the little people who the ones who actually deserve it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 04/28/2009
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Guess we're just "lucky" that Bayh is still a democrat...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 04/28/2009
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"My concern about this is that in our appropriate zeal to help the four or five percent of Americans who might be faced with bankruptcy, we don't unduly raise the costs of homeownership on the 95 percent who never will,"

Who is Bayh kidding??? Number one, 4 - 5 percent is hundreds of thousands of our neighbors. That's like saying it's okay if there are always 5 percent of people unemployed. Also, Bayh, NEVER SAY NEVER! In the current economy, many innocent people who need medical care lose their houses. NOBODY can say they will never lose their house because they are such a responsible citizen. Responsibility has zero to do with certain accidents and illnesses that incur millions of dollars in medical costs. People make PEANUTS, remember, BAYH BAYH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 04/28/2009

Bayh's comment is completely false and misleading. Shameful.

In 2008 1.2 million BKs were filed, total (per Google.) My guess is that only a small percentage of these would involve the mortgage cramdowns at issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 04/28/2009
- wndrwrthg I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg 38 fans permalink
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We have the best government that money can buy. It firmly believes in the golden rule, "he who has the gold, makes the rules".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 04/28/2009
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PROTECT OUR Congress Members Votes:

Funnel all Political Contributions through a Government Contribution Cleansing and Funds Distribution Agency that uses strict formulas for allocating funds blindly to Politicians so their votes are NOT purchased! Fairness for New potential Members (No incumbent advantages for voting record)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/28/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 72 fans permalink
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Corporations wouldn't donate if they couldn't buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 04/28/2009
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This Mortgage Adjustment is a SMALL Start for Main Street Americans who elected B. Obama!

We Main Street Americans must begin to REFORM this System of Government that allows:

1. Wall Street Corruption and Greed to Sink our Economy!
2. Wall Street to pay $5 Billion to our Congress to Buy Votes!
3. Corporate welfare to sink or Budgets and OUR FUTURES!
4. Obama with Geithner and Summers to continue to ignore Main Street as it drops off the EDGE! After the Election the Average American on Main Street ceases to exist! The only things that matter is the Lobbyists and Corporate Interest Groups!
5. Not "1" CEO (other than merger) has lost their Position!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 04/28/2009
- fuelrod I'm a Fan of fuelrod 3 fans permalink

Amen brother,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 04/28/2009
- SeaRover I'm a Fan of SeaRover 2 fans permalink

The banks own Washington. Another campaign promise bites the dust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 04/28/2009
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We Main Street Americans must begin to REFORM this System of Government that allows:

1. Wall Street Corruption and Greed to Sink our Economy!
2. Wall Street to pay $5 Billion to our Congress to Buy Votes!
3. Corporate welfare to sink or Budgets and OUR FUTURES!
4. Obama with Geithner and Summers to continue to ignore Main Street as it drops off the EDGE! After the Election the Average American on Main Street ceases to exist! The only things that matter is the Lobbyists and Corporate Interest Groups!
5. Not "1" CEO (other than merger) has lost their Position!

PROTECT OUR Congress Members Votes:

Funnel all Political Contributions through a Government Contribution Cleansing and Funds Distribution Agency that uses strict formulas for allocating funds blindly to Politicians so their votes are NOT purchased! Fairness for New potential Members (No incumbent advantages for voting record)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/28/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 414 fans permalink
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Our money system is PRIVATE. That's the BIG problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 04/28/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 142 fans permalink

Senators, I'd rather see a bill that's one tenth the size of the mega-monsters that you folks usually create, that gets passed timely ... than to see another X weeks or months spent trying to swallow a whale. "Comprehensive, omnibus" legislation is, to say the least, unwieldy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 04/28/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 142 fans permalink

Keep workin' it, Senators. Keep workin' it.

There are tens of thousands of banks out there that DIDN'T drink the kool-aid of the bankrupt big-twenty. (And notice whose bank is bankrupt and eyebrows-deep in securities fraud, and whose banks are not!)

Create the best law. And, hurry up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 04/28/2009
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YES!

Transfer money from Wall Street to Local Community Banks and Local (NOT BIG) Credit Unions who also have protection for your deposits!

Let Wall Street KNOW Main Street is the FUTURE and we do not Need them anymore!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 04/28/2009
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Wall Street Banks want to DROP TARP prepayment FEES but Banks do Not want to Help Home Owners!

Lets just DROP all Pre-Payment Fees on Home Owners

In fact lets automatically CONVERT every adjustable mortgage to a current 4.25% rate loan - No FEES!

If that is what Goldman and JPM want then lets do it for Main Street!

Better Yet, Turn Off the Money Faucet to Wall Street and turn On the Faucet to Main Street!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 04/28/2009
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Many banks were FORCED to take TARP money, because refusal would have created a crisis of confidence for those banks that actually needed help.

How would you feel if Obama showed up at your door tomorrow, begged you take a stimulus check to help the economy, and then spent the next 6 months bashing you for being a leech on the taxpayers? And then when you get tired of being painted as the bad guy and try to pay the money back, they refuse to take it, citing economic concerns, and creating penalties for attempting to repay it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 04/28/2009
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So WHAT?

Argument still stands!

Poor little banksters! - To be bashed by words! What about the $Trillions that stole from America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 04/28/2009
- Okay I'm a Fan of Okay permalink

Sounds like that old racketeering ploy - Protection Why does the government refuse to take the money back? What's the risk to the government if they do? Less money to borrow?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 04/28/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 414 fans permalink
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I don't think Philip caused the problem to begin with. We are rewarding the crooks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 04/28/2009
- k1k2lee I'm a Fan of k1k2lee 16 fans permalink

Show me the evidence that any bank was FORCED to take money. I mean, show me the document in pdf form with the CEO's signature saying "please don't give me the money." That is a lot of hogwash. They were FORCED to take the money so they didn't fail. it is the failure that would cause the crisis in confidence. And they STILL aren't lending. Explaint THAT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 04/28/2009
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These politicians are either not thinking through the issues or they understand the issues and have been bought and paid for by the banks. One of two things are going to happen. Either the banks (big and small) are going to be forced to eat the costs of their bad loans or the taxpayers are going to be forced to pick up the costs of those bad loans and the associated losses. Of course no bank wants to eat the cost of the bad loans, who would? But this is key to whether those banks (big and small) are really solvent or just hiding behind a lack of accounting oversight. Do there politicians really think they can get away with saddling the taxpayer with more losses? If the banks have problems and raise prices - the buyers and sellers pay. If they get a free pass the taxpayers pay. Since the buyers and sellers are also the taxpayers, it can't be the taxpayers the politicians are worried about.

Therefore, they are either too dumb to understand the issues or they are on the banks payrolls. Either way their constituents need to look closely before the next election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 04/28/2009
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Again because of Conservative Democrats, Main Street is getting the SHORT END!

Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) Gets $Half a Million from Goldman every 4 years!
Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) Gets over $4 Million from Banking Lobbyists/Corporations every 4 years!
Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) Gets almost $1 Million from Real Estate Lobbyists/Corporations every 4 years!

Mary Landrieu (D-La.) Gets $5 Million from Real Estate/Legal Lobbyists/Corporations every 4 years!
Mary Landrieu (D-La.) Gets $1 Million from Banking Lobbyists/Corporations every 4 years!

Main Street is being Shorted by Pols:

300% Increase in Pay for Top 1% from 1980-2008!
20% Decrease in Pay for Other 99% from 1980-2008!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 04/28/2009
- glockman I'm a Fan of glockman 43 fans permalink
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And wall street contributed $9.5 million to Obama, so what's your point?

Their all in the pockets of wall street, or are you too blinded by ideology to see that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 04/28/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 78 fans permalink

tnx fr tht

truly DESPICABLE how these "YELLOW-dog" Demorats take their ORDERS (and money) from.... goldman, the aipac lobby, the war lobby, the oil lobby... ANYONE but the consumers / voters, because for the past 2 decades what the public sees & hears has been controlled by corporate media

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 04/28/2009
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