Ben Nelson Plans To Oppose Public Health Plan

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Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said Friday that he will oppose legislation that would give people the option of a public health insurance plan. The move puts him on the opposite side of two-thirds of Americans.

A poll released this week by Consumer Reports National Research Center showed that 66 percent of Americans back the creation of a public health plan that would compete with private plans. Nelson, in comments made to CQ, joins the 16 percent of poll respondents who said they oppose the plan.

Nelson's problem, he told CQ, is that the public plan would be too attractive and would hurt the private insurance plans. "At the end of the day, the public plan wins the game," Nelson said. Including a public option in a health plan, he said, was a "deal breaker."

A Nelson spokesman didn't return a call for comment.

As he so often does, Nelson said, according to CQ, that he planned to form a "coalition of like-minded centrists opposed to the creation of a public plan, as a counterweight to Democrats pushing for it."

That coalition will not include 16 Democratic senators who signed a letter calling for a public plan earlier this week, including Senate leaders Dick Durbin (Ill.) and Charles Schumer (N.Y.).

If Democrats use the reconciliation process to pass health care reform, however, Nelson's vote would not be needed, as only a simple majority could pass the legislation.

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America

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Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said Friday that he will oppose legislation that would give people the option of a public health insurance plan. The move puts him on the opposite side of two-thirds of Americ...
Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said Friday that he will oppose legislation that would give people the option of a public health insurance plan. The move puts him on the opposite side of two-thirds of Americ...
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'Democrat' in Nebraska is apparently and extremely loose term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 05/03/2009
- Victorinox I'm a Fan of Victorinox 3 fans permalink

On what ground aside from Cold War Era paranoia do people oppose public health plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/03/2009
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It would upset their pay-scale?
ANNUAL COMPENSATION OF HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY EXECUTIVES (2006 and 2007 figures):


• Ronald A. Williams, Chair/ CEO, Aetna Inc., $23,045,834
• H. Edward Hanway, Chair/ CEO, Cigna Corp, $30.16 million
• David B. Snow, Jr, Chair/ CEO, Medco Health, $21.76 million
• Michael B. MCallister, CEO, Humana Inc, $20.06 million
• Stephen J. Hemsley, CEO, UnitedHealth Group, $13,164,529
• Angela F. Braly, President/ CEO, Wellpoint, $9,094,771
• Dale B. Wolf, CEO, Coventry Health Care, $20.86 million
• Jay M. Gellert, President/ CEO, Health Net, $16.65 million
• William C. Van Faasen, Chairman, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, $3 million plus $16.4 million in retirement benefits
• Charlie Baker, President/ CEO, Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, $1.5 million
• James Roosevelt, Jr., CEO, Tufts Associated Health Plans, $1.3 million
• Cleve L. Killingsworth, President/CEO Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, $3.6 million
• Raymond McCaskey, CEO, Health Care Service Corp (Blue Cross Blue Shield), $10.3 million
• Daniel P. McCartney, CEO, Healthcare Services Group, Inc, $ 1,061,513
• Daniel Loepp, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, $1,657,555
• Todd S. Farha, CEO, WellCare Health Plans, $5,270,825
• Michael F. Neidorff, CEO, Centene Corp, $8,750,751
• Daniel Loepp, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, $1,657,555
• Todd S. Farha, CEO, WellCare Health Plans, $5,270,825
• Michael F. Neidorff, CEO, Centene Corp, $8,750,751

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 05/03/2009
- Jaid I'm a Fan of Jaid permalink

I say let the voters of Ben Nelson's district deny him his publicly funded health insurance that the rest of us are not good enough to receive by voting his butt out of government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 05/03/2009
- NCarolina I'm a Fan of NCarolina 3 fans permalink

Yep. Get him off the public plan and on to a private plan so he can help ease their pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 05/03/2009

"Nelson's problem, he told CQ, is that the public plan would be too attractive and would hurt the private insurance plans." - sounds like an admission of the truth to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/03/2009
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But what he's too stupid to realize (or too beholden) is the reason: most of the private plans suck, and do more for the management of the providers than for the subscribers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 05/03/2009
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 85 fans permalink
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Note to self: no campaign donations to Ben Nelson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/03/2009
- tippydog11 I'm a Fan of tippydog11 9 fans permalink

Americans we pay the bills do we not? George Clooney said: Iraq war?? George Clooney said: When ever America needed the right men, we gotten them in History...­Thomas Jefferson, Adam---American Consitutio­n--Lingoli­n--Great Civil War, Slavery---­Roosevelt-­-Great depression­---Kennedy­----Cuban Missile Crises----­Obama--Wor­st Economy Crises and Foreign----thinking myself theses great men also must of had negative and screaming people at them also??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 05/03/2009
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They sure did. Another thing, they were all underdog candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 05/03/2009
- Acidic I'm a Fan of Acidic 6 fans permalink

I just don't get it. It seems no matter who we decide to put in government, they will s crew us. Whether it's Dem or Rep it seems as soon as they get to Washington all bets are off. Is there not a single genuine person in our government other than our President? People who aspire to be politicians are E vil on a genetic level. None of them act on our behalf, EVER, they just tell us what we want to hear and go on to become rich as/s/holes at our expense. It really makes me sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 05/03/2009
- RhodaA I'm a Fan of RhodaA 27 fans permalink
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HERE'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT IT. IF A LOT OF PEOPEL GET INVOLVED, IT MIGHT HAVE AN EFFECT.

On Monday nighyt, MoveOn.org is having an emergency internet conference with Howard Dean.regar­ding derailment dangers to healthcare reform. See details below. The website has a place to post questions for Dean. I'm asking him if he thinks Nelson's declarations are a real threat, i.e., can he really get enough senators to block the bill. AT THE VERY LEAST, GETTING THE ATTENTION OF DEAN ON THIS MIGHT PLANT A SEED FOR A NATIONAL EFFORT TO SHAME NELSON AND EXPOSE HIS MOTIVATION­S..
__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­__________­______

Dear MoveOn member,
Urgent update on health care: Next week, Congress will begin making the actual decisions about what'll be in a health care reform bill ... we're holding an emergency online briefing on Monday night at 9 p.m. ET with Dr. Howard Dean. Details:
What: Emergency Online Briefing with Dr. Howard Dean
When: Monday, May 4, 9 p.m. ET/ 8 CT/ 7 MT/ 6 PT
Where: MoveOn.org's web site
Click here to tell us you'll be listening in"and submit a question for Dr. Dean:

http://pol.moveon.org/deanforum/?id=16038-13954987-LZ_77Sx&t=4

P.S. On Monday night, click here to listen in:
http://www.moveon.org/drdean?id=16038-13954987-LZ_77Sx&t=7

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 05/03/2009

Great idea, I've submitted a similar question regarding the obstruction of healthcare by "Reagan democrats"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/03/2009
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What a TOOL of the Insurance Business:

#1 DONOR=Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway - Insurance GIANT!

Nelson is owned by Insurance + Health Care + Pharma + Nursing Homes

Health Care paid him a TOTAL of $2,048,265!

Source:
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00005329

Insurance $1,195,299
Health Professionals $399,345
Pharmaceut­icals/Heal­th Products $258,483
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $195,138

Some of his Biggest Donors:

#1 Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway $75,550
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $59,523
NelNet Inc $49,100
Mutual of Omaha $46,100
Prudential Financial $35,500
PMA Group $31,350

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 05/03/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 250 fans permalink
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wow- what does this say about the people of Nebraska??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 05/03/2009
- jordan3189 I'm a Fan of jordan3189 20 fans permalink

That they elected a guy who represents them and is not an obama stooge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 05/03/2009
- Raintree I'm a Fan of Raintree 4 fans permalink
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From one Nebraskan to another- Hey Ben! PPPPBBBBPPPPP :P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 05/03/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 250 fans permalink
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good luck- I hope you can get rid of him...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 05/03/2009
- jordan3189 I'm a Fan of jordan3189 20 fans permalink

Yeah, we want a rubber stamp kind of guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 05/03/2009
- vgirl1 I'm a Fan of vgirl1 56 fans permalink

Citizens of the US should demand that taxpayer money not be used for healthcare benefits for members of Congress and their families until similar care is available to all Americans.

Members of Congress should be required to rely on private health care payment as long as they cannot muster enough votes to finally admit that purely privately funded health care for all Americans, except those who are members of Congress, is not more efficient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 05/03/2009
- devans00 I'm a Fan of devans00 18 fans permalink
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I can get behind this idea, vgirl1.

After all, we don't want to force Congress to sully their principles by twisting their arms to take publicly funded health care benefits.

Voting down health care benefits for all Americans obviously means they feel having tax payers cover health costs is a bad idea, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 05/03/2009
- seted I'm a Fan of seted 25 fans permalink
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I'm sure the insurance companies would take very good care of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 05/03/2009
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 100 fans permalink
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Making a PROFIT on healing the sick is OBSCENE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 05/03/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 250 fans permalink
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yes, it is, and these people should be ashamed of themselves.

If there is any shame left in DC or K Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 05/03/2009
- ctekin I'm a Fan of ctekin 8 fans permalink
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That my friend, is where the problem lies. Healing sick people and maximizing profits are not really mutually shared interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 05/04/2009
- vgirl1 I'm a Fan of vgirl1 56 fans permalink

Ben Nelson is not a Democrat, Blue Dog or otherwise. I hope the people of Nebraska finally realize what he is costing them as part of middle class, working America.

He has voted not as a Democratic Senator but as a Republican. Nelson has left his party and his constituents behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 05/03/2009
- Raintree I'm a Fan of Raintree 4 fans permalink
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Amen and Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 05/03/2009
- scjk67 I'm a Fan of scjk67 149 fans permalink
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say good bye to that Blue Dog dem, he's a wingnut as a DINO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 05/03/2009
- adamsmith3 I'm a Fan of adamsmith3 17 fans permalink

The idea that even the most efficient private health insurance company could come close to competing with a public program is ludicrous. Private companies have to deal in reality, and they don't get to write budgets that count on going into massive debt without end in sight. They don't get to just someone's taxes to get out of that debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 05/03/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 250 fans permalink
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they also dont jack up the prices, but are in a position to demand that the prices stay reasonable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 05/03/2009

Apparently you haven't been jammed sufficiently by private sector insurance companies - the ones whose "consequences" include government bailout corporate welfare safety net when THEY mess up (say by, oh, I don't know, going into massive debt...) - the one's who make millions on the float by SYSTEMATICALLY refusing to pay legitimate claims on time (aka "stealing " in the "real world"). The reality is that the 20% or more administrative costs they report support this malfeasance and their contributions to the pols who answer to them. The limited "reality" that continues to be presented against changing this arrangement ignores the data, ignores the untold (literally, untold, unreported) and unnecessary suffering and the excessive WASTE that exists in the current system. What color is the sky in your world Dorothy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/03/2009
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