The Edge Vs. Malibu Residents In Pitch For "Green" Mansions

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NOAKI SCHWARTZ | 05/ 1/09 02:37 PM | AP

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MALIBU, Calif. — A few years ago, U2 guitarist The Edge went for a hike, and there in the golden hills overlooking Malibu's cerulean waters, he finally found what he was looking for.

The Edge and his wife, Morleigh Steinberg, bought 156 acres in Santa Monica Mountains and now want to build five mansions there, including their own dream home. From a distance, they say, their house will look like nothing more than scattered leaves on the ridgeline.

"These homes will be some of the most environmentally sensitive ever designed in Malibu _ or anywhere in the world," the guitarist, whose real name is David Evans, said in a prepared statement.

Nearby residents, however, haven't bought his green pitch and say The Edge is endangering the beauty of one of Southern California's most famous beachfront communities along with U2's globally conscious image.

"It is going to look nice to the human eye but at what cost?" said surf shop owner and City Councilman Jefferson Wagner. "When is enough enough?"

The plan has sparked the latest development controversy in Malibu, where residents and city officials portray themselves as stewards of a blessed environment _ even as the construction of palatial mansions and sweeping driveways turn vast swaths of that environment to mulch.

The project proposed by The Edge calls for a cluster of five, 10,000-square-foot homes. The two-story, earth-toned dwellings would be the maximum size allowed in areas designated as environmentally sensitive habitat.

Renderings show organic design features such as a pool that encircles one home like a moat. Another house would wrap around an existing pile of boulders while The Edge's own dwelling would feature curved roof lines to simulate leaves.

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The Edge is also proposing to dig an access road up the mountain behind the exclusive Serra Retreat neighborhood of about 90 homes that stars such as Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Britney Spears have called home.

"They're claiming it's a green environmental project, but you'd have to live in the houses a thousand years" to make up for the carbon dioxide emitted by the trucks hauling the dirt out, said Lawrence Weisdorn, president of the Serra Retreat homeowners association.

Still, the plan by The Edge has won the approval of Los Angeles County and in June is expected to go before the California Coastal Commission, which regulates coastal development.

Steve Hudson, regional supervisor of planning and regulation for the commission, said the project will have to overcome some hurdles. For instance, the road would require significant grading in a habitat of chaparral and coastal sage where landslides are an ongoing issue.

"We have concerns," Hudson said. "We're still evaluating the application in regards to impacts to the environmentally sensitive habitat areas and potential impacts to public views."

The Edge is also fighting a "not in my backyard" mentality among the well-heeled denizens of Malibu. Many fear the access road might someday be extended to the other side of the hill and pave the way for a flood of unwanted visitors from Los Angeles County.

Critics have seized on The Edge's green credentials saying recycling, composting and avoiding plastic foam cups is commendable but putting mansions in such a sensitive habitat erases all those good intentions. Flora and fauna may be lost, energy and water will be used to create and transport building materials, not to mention filling the pools and lighting up the mansions even if they are helped by solar panels.

The guitarist, who owns more than 400 acres in Malibu, declined a request for an interview but said in his prepared statement that his critics "don't have the facts or have ulterior motives."

His project manager Jim Vanden Berg says the road won't be turned into a highway or lead to more development.

"The Edge does not deserve to have his reputation tarnished in this fashion because it's contrary to his stance on the environment," Vanden Berg said.

The goal, he said, is to have the homes be Gold LEED Certified by adhering to the greenest building standards requiring use of recycled materials in construction and environmentally friendly amenities to reduce energy consumption. Among other features, the homes will have native landscaping, electric vehicle charging, solar panels and onsite wastewater treatment.

Evans recently listed the lots for $7.5 million each. Vanden Berg would not say how much the finished homes would sell for but noted Evans planned to pick his neighbors.

The guitarist partnered with high-end global hotel developer Derek Quinlan to buy the property in 2006 for $9 million. Both men, along with U2 frontman Bono, are currently involved in another controversial project in Ireland to transform the boutique Clarence Hotel in Dublin into a larger, five-star hotel, raising the ire of conservationists and environmentalists.

The Edge bought another property in the Malibu's Latigo Canyon in 2007 for $20.25 million. Vanden Berg called the land an investment and said no development was ever planned for the site.

But Wagner, a Latigo resident, said a group met with the guitarist's local representative and reviewed plans for a subdivision. While the Latigo Canyon property is now for sale, plans are moving forward on the site near Serra Retreat.

Mark Abramson, director of watershed programs with the Santa Monica Baykeeper, said he has serious doubts about claims by The Edge that his hillside homes would be among the most environmental in the world.

"I've got to call bovine scat on that," Abramson said. "Why doesn't he just have a concert fundraiser to pay for his infrastructure?"

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On the Web: http://www.leavesinthewind.com

MALIBU, Calif. — A few years ago, U2 guitarist The Edge went for a hike, and there in the golden hills overlooking Malibu's cerulean waters, he finally found what he was looking for. The Edge a...
MALIBU, Calif. — A few years ago, U2 guitarist The Edge went for a hike, and there in the golden hills overlooking Malibu's cerulean waters, he finally found what he was looking for. The Edge a...
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I looked at the web-site, it reminded me of the Phillip Johnson thought that "Architects ars like expensive whores, they turn down some but eventually pick a client". I can't wait to see the landscape plans, I'll probably take up yoga. Sell the plans on e-bay, I"m sure some grad student wants them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 05/11/2009

Anyone who would actually call himself "The Edge" and keep a straight face doing it isn't someone I'd want in my neighborhood, either. What a tool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 05/05/2009

I like u2.

but a 10,000 square foot house is not green, any way you slice it. pretty disappointing that the edge would try to push such a bs idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/04/2009
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Soooo....

Where is the outrage for the developers who covered hillsides everywhere with cruddy McMansions who's only concession to the environment was the energy star appliances built right in and free with sub prime purchase.. Where is the outrage for the selfish among us who insist on driving monster vehicles 3 blocks to the corner store for a quart of milk produced by burping cows??

How many of you are off the grid and carbon neutral? Changed all the light bulbs in your home? Planted a home garden? Gave up the plastic bags yet? Riding your bikes? Cutting down on the meat? Because this is what it will take...Everyone of US doing these things.. Not telling Celebrities we don't care for their lifestyles even though quite a few of Us wouldn't mind trading places with him..or at least trading Bank Accounts .. So try and look at the big picture..

We need people like him to set examples for the mega wealthy... and it is providing jobs and proving grounds for Green Technologies.. Maybe not your particular pet theories..but that is hardly the point.. It seems we are in the infancy of green technology and I can't help but think that it is a good thing that someone who has the money will be providing jobs in America in this developing sector.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/04/2009

"We need people like him to set examples for the mega wealthy."

really? are that there many of them in the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 05/04/2009
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Well.. there is one attempting to build five houses in an already overcrowded area.. and I have the sad feeling that no one would have even cared except for the fact that Dave Evans said they were going to be Green... just not green enough..

It looks like the takeaway is.. If you can't be completely green to EVERYONE's satisfaction don't even bother trying lest you be called a hypocrite..

I amend to... Perhaps the People who still have some money will consider green projects.. Feel Better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/04/2009
- learntofly I'm a Fan of learntofly 206 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 05/04/2009

10,000 sq. ft.. x 5 homes w/4-5 people per home. How eco-friendly can that be? 50,000 sq. ft. for 20 people? That's after 70,000 cubic yards of dirt moved to build them. You can green them up as much as you want - you will never get by this starting point. He will have to have another dinner with Julia Dreyfuss to calculate how this eco-celebrity diatribe works (maximum footprint, multiple houses and as much carbon footprint travel as possible). Just another pick and choose hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/03/2009
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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If the residents who already have built their homes nearby wanted a "natural area" nearby, they should have bought up the land and converted it to a national park, or had it zoned for ranch houses and trailers only.

What a bunch of west coast hypocrites. The whole thing is going to fall into the ocean anyway. The car pollution is horrific. Who would even want to live there? Only rock stars and actors who may use helicopters to get around from one palatial mansion to another. Let them suffocate in the box of poison they have created.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 05/03/2009
- fuelrod I'm a Fan of fuelrod 3 fans permalink

Go back to Ireland and build your houses, take Bono with you,,

A bunch of phonies, I'm tired of looking at U2 retire already.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/03/2009
- UrbanRube I'm a Fan of UrbanRube 4 fans permalink

There's really not much pollution in Malibu. It's separated geographically from L.A. by hills and distance, and the sea breezes blow a lot of L.A.'s pollution further up the coast. Not to mention that the roads there don't have six lanes in each direction like the freeways in L.A. do, so there are never THAT many cars driving around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 05/04/2009
- Indy 44 I'm a Fan of Indy 44 17 fans permalink
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Anyone drive up and down the California coast lately between LA and San Diego?

It's a nightmare.

Generations of exploiting California's natural beauty coupled with unbridled development so that the rich and famous (and the rich and famous pretenders) can celebrate (flaunt) their status.

What's one more?

This guy is a guitar genius. Besides, if he's denied the property, guess what? Some other opportunist will seize it 5 years from now.

If you want pristine 'green' scenic beauty, check out Tennessee. Seriously. California ain't the place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 05/02/2009
- gouge I'm a Fan of gouge 9 fans permalink

The Edge is NOT a guitar genius -Jeff Beck is a guitar genius......lets not abuse the over-used term-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 05/03/2009

Jeff Beck was great, I don't know about genius. He basically just played melodic pentatonic blues riffs louder than his cohorts. I just listened to Beck-Ola the other day (one of my favorite albums), and it's great -- but like I said, I don't know about genius.

Re: the Edge -- do you anyone who sounds like him that hasn't blatantly copied his sound? From a tonal/sonic perspective, he's a true pioneer. Maybe not genius, but definitely an original.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/03/2009
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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Even if he's repetitive and trite, the Edge has more soul than Jeff Beck and knows how to fashion a song with a band. Who cares if he's a genius or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/03/2009
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imho the edge is far from a guitar genius... very far. he's a rawkstar and i say let him have his mansion in the hills...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/03/2009
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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Seriously. Nobody lives in Southern California for the natural beauty. It's hidden behind waves of automobiles. It's a party scene. That's it. The Edge wants to mingle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 05/03/2009
- UrbanRube I'm a Fan of UrbanRube 4 fans permalink

A lot of people want to live in the remaining natural-beauty spots in So Cal. They are still here, but very expensive. L.A. proper -- not so much. Malibu, Laguna, Santa Barbara, La Jolla... still gorgeous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/04/2009
- Vurz I'm a Fan of Vurz 19 fans permalink
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I don't think it was ok for the other ridiculously large homes to be built. That said, they are already up, so buying one of them and retrofitting it would be more earth friendly than building new ones.

I'm more shocked by the size. 50,000 square feet f house? That's not green at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 05/02/2009
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 120 fans permalink
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It's actually five 10,000 sq ft homes -- still monsters.

Why not build 10 green homes instead? Why do these celebrities have to live in mansions anyway? Why can't they be more "normal"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/02/2009

It's one thing to build a house for yourself and a family member, but 3 other mansions to sell? Now he fancies himself a builder? He has to put up a 30' retaining wall = carving up the side of the hill. It will be so ugly from the coast highway. When IS enough enough?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 05/03/2009

"buying one of them and retrofitting it would be more earth friendly than building new ones. "

that would be the true green solution, if he really must live there.

maybe he should ask himself whythehell he thinks he needs 10,000 square feet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 05/04/2009
- mikefina I'm a Fan of mikefina 40 fans permalink

Don't allow him to build anything until he and his bandmates formally "HOUSEHOLD" in California. That means bringing all their assets to California, subjecting those assets and all future income to U.S., CA and Local taxation.

I might even listen to their lectures to the rest of us about how we should send our money to their pet social causes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/02/2009

Why can't he buy pre-existing homes ? This is NOT necessary and therefore NOT green.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 05/02/2009
- Feanor I'm a Fan of Feanor 9 fans permalink

Bingo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 05/02/2009
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"Among other features, the homes will have ... onsite wastewater treatment."

For a Green sort of guy, this is sheer idiocy. Onsite wastewater treatment indeed.

Set up an anaerobic digestion system, Edge. Generate natural gas. Use it whereever.

Onsite waste water treatment. Ha. C'mon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/02/2009
- lennyp I'm a Fan of lennyp 2 fans permalink

The residents are right about preserving the area! In fact, they are so right that they should give up their homes and restore their property to it's pristine state and donate it to the people of CA and the USA for use as a public park.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/02/2009
- ZumaBlue I'm a Fan of ZumaBlue 6 fans permalink

What people don't understand is that Malibu is the backyard of Los Angeles. It is the ONLY remaining natural beach town on the entire CA coast. Home to tens of millions of tourists every year. Why? Not for mini-malls and fast-food - as an oasis from the stress and grind of the wall-to-wall concrete of LA. To relax, renew, be in nature. The stewards of this oasis are not zillionaires. The average citizen of Malibu is NOT wealthy, just normal working stiffs. Edge's actions are flying in the face of his so called environmentalism. WHO on earth needs FIVE, 10,000 sq. ft. estates of living space? What about his carbon footprint? What about the natural habitat that he is destroying? What about the animals he is displacing? Once nature has been torn up, built up, mansionized - there is no going back. It is full hypocrisy. Shame on him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/02/2009
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So.. Now that California has ONLY ONE natural beach town left..Only One left on the longest stretch of Coastline in America!(Any Individual you would care to blame for that?)... A few Eco friendly houses using all the latest developments in sustainability) on a Parcel Land he OWNS ....that would be developed at some point anyway..... would just ruin everything (people hadn't managed to ruin already)..

Sorry but the crying and whining about a self made success wanting a Dream House and neighbors he enjoys... sounds self serving and selfish at this point..

We have dead zones miles wide and long up and down the West Coast..Oxygen depleted water..and dead birds.... but lets get all caught up in a few more houses going up in an already over developed area prone to Wildfires ..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/02/2009
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One more thing... You really thing The Edge is going to do more damage than Tens of Millions of Tourist? Really??

yeah..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/02/2009
- gratonite I'm a Fan of gratonite 7 fans permalink

what the hell is a natural beach town?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/02/2009
- gratonite I'm a Fan of gratonite 7 fans permalink

what the heck is a natural beach town?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/02/2009
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Ah, gotta love it... one member of U2 gets ridiculed for his activism in spite of the results he gets work while another gets ridiculed for doing what countless celebrities have done with more disregard than he's showing. People... five buildings on 156 acres. That's one building per 35 acres. Worry more about fly-by-night developers who use up far more land for cookie-cutter houses that stand empty because of the real estate marker crash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 05/02/2009
- gratonite I'm a Fan of gratonite 7 fans permalink

it's about the potential for hypocrisy though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 05/02/2009
- Feanor I'm a Fan of Feanor 9 fans permalink

every parcel of 156 acres is not created equal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 05/02/2009



Why don't you ask this tax-dodging hypocrite about the renovations he did in his landmark-protected Manhattan apartment. He broke the law then threatened the housing board.

Total fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/03/2009
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What he is proposing might seem over the top to some.. but as much of an Environmentalist as I am.. I have to stick up for The Edge.. In that area.. the comments by the key opponents seem as hypocritical as a Republicans.. The way they allowed that area.. UNTIL NOW to be developed is a disgrace... The people speaking pretend as if they live in Environmentally Friendly homes.. they do not assure you... and would be the first to cry if a wildfire took their McMansion..

"The plan has sparked the latest development controversy in Malibu, where residents and city officials portray themselves as stewards of a blessed environment _ even as the construction of palatial mansions and sweeping driveways turn vast swaths of that environment to mulch."

I bet if there was a little more in it for them.. they would be a lot more amenable to a handful more buildings in an area that will get developed.. Whether The Edge does it now.. or gives up and sells to the Developers who I am sure are already licking their chops..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/02/2009
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