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Berkshire shareholders Donald Chou and his seven year-old son Brent use a hand sanitizer as precaution against Swine flu, at the annual Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting in Omaha, Neb., Friday, May 1, 2009. Warren Buffett's famed Woodstock for capitalists begins Friday with various official and unofficial events. About 35,000 shareholders are expected to participate in Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting Saturday despite what was, by some measures, a disappointing 2008 for Buffett's investment company.(AP Photo/Nati Harnik)

OMAHA, Neb. — Billionaire Warren Buffett spent Saturday praising the decisions U.S. officials made to right the economy in the midst of a "financial hurricane" and defending the ones he made to help his company navigate the storm.

The state of the economy and Berkshire Hathaway Inc.'s recent performance were among the first things addressed at the shareholders' meeting. Roughly 35,000 people packed an arena and overflow rooms to listen to Buffett and Berkshire Vice Chairman Charlie Munger answer questions for more than five hours.

"Overall, I commend the actions that were taken," Buffett said. But he said no one should expect perfection because the economy experienced a "financial hurricane."

But Buffett said he can't predict how quickly the economy and the markets will improve. He said last fall that the U.S. was facing an "economic Pearl Harbor."

To illustrate the challenges the nation faced last year, Buffett showed a sales receipt for $5 million in U.S. Treasury bonds that Berkshire sold in December for $90.07 more than face value, ensuring a negative return for the buyer. Buffett said he doesn't think most investors will see negative returns on U.S. bonds again in their lifetimes.

"It's been a very extraordinary year," he said.

The economy, succession at the top of Berkshire and the state of the company, which last year had its worst year since Buffett took over in 1965, were on the minds of many shareholders.

Berkshire's Class A stock lost 32 percent in 2008, and Berkshire's book value _ assets minus liabilities _ declined 9.6 percent, to $70,530 per share. That was the biggest drop in book value under Buffett and only the second time its book value has declined.

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But despite Berkshire's rough year _ which was depressed by unrealized multibillion-dollar derivative losses _ the company still outpaced the market index Buffett uses as a measuring stick. The S&P 500 fell 37 percent in 2008.

Berkshire reported a 2008 profit of $4.99 billion, or $3,224 per Class A share. That was down 62 percent from the previous year, but better than many companies.

The meeting began as usual with a humorous movie, but instead of the traditional comical cartoon, Berkshire offered a reassuring message from animated versions of its products.

An animated Mrs. See of See's Candy told the crowd that it didn't seem right to have a humorous cartoon when so many things in the world don't seem sweet.

Retired shareholder Paul Gallmeyer of the Chicago area said he wasn't especially worried about who will replace the 78-year-old Buffett as Berkshire's chairman and CEO. He said all of Berkshire's more than 60 subsidiaries are run by people who will keep the company going after Buffett is gone.

"I truly don't see that as much of an issue as other people make it," Gallmeyer said.

But some shareholders, like Dennis Hospodarsky of Waterloo, Iowa, were a little worried about the succession issue.

"I hope he's as good at picking a successor as he is at stocks," Hospodarsky said.

Both Buffett and Munger tried to reassure shareholders that Berkshire's future success is not solely dependent on their continued service because the company has a strong culture of responsibility and trust.

"In show business, they say something 'has legs' if it is going to last. I think Berkshire Hathaway's system 'has legs,'" Munger said.

Buffett offered a few new clues about who'll replace him at the helm of Berkshire Hathaway, but Buffett still refused to name the people who will become Berkshire's next chief executive or its next chief investment officer. Buffett received several succession questions.

Three of Berkshire's internal managers are candidates to be CEO. And the board has a list of four internal and external investment managers who could manage Berkshire's $49 billion stock portfolio and investing its $24.3 billion cash.

Buffett says none of the investment managers likely beat the S&P 500 last year, but over the past 10 years they all beat the average performance at least modestly if not significantly.

Buffett said he doesn't see any value in choosing a CEO successor now to follow him around Berkshire's 19-person headquarters because all the candidates are already running businesses now. Plus the other two might leave Berkshire if a successor was named.

"It'd be a waste of talent," Buffett said. "I don't really see any advantages in having some crown prince around."

Buffett has said his son Howard will take over as chairman to ensure Berkshire's culture is preserved. Howard Buffett already serves on the board.

Berkshire shareholders rejected a resolution that would have required the company to produce annual sustainability reports about the company's subsidiaries and investments. Nearly 703,000 votes were cast against the measure and only 49,000 for it.

The group that presented the resolution wanted the company to disclose any environmental, social or labor rights risks associated with Berkshire's holdings.

Simon Billenness, who presented the resolution, said it would have required Berkshire to disclose more about labor problems at its apparel subsidiary Russell Athletic, which has been criticized for closing a plant in Honduras where a labor union had been organizing.

But Berkshire officials defended the way they treated workers at the plant after Fruit of the Loom acquired Russell in 2006, and they said the plant closing was part of the company's response to the recession. Several other Russell plants closed last year, too.

Berkshire's board recommended that shareholders reject the resolution, saying generating the report would require a substantial amount of time and produce little benefit.

Billenness said he was pleased with the level of support the resolution received.

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OMAHA, Neb. — Billionaire Warren Buffett spent Saturday praising the decisions U.S. officials made to right the economy in the midst of a "financial hurricane" and defending the ones he made to ...
OMAHA, Neb. — Billionaire Warren Buffett spent Saturday praising the decisions U.S. officials made to right the economy in the midst of a "financial hurricane" and defending the ones he made to ...
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Buffet is right. The economy is suffering from what John Maynard Keynes referred to as the 'Paradox of Thrift'. Too much saving on the part of individuals may be good for them, but it puts the economy as a whole into a tailspin. Demand needs to be puffed up through the spending the government is doing. The old 19th century laissez-faire model has its limitations, and produced depression after depression. And usually preceded by liquidity crises. Just look at the Panic of 1907, and the necessary liquidity pumped in by Pierpont Morgan and his banking colleagues. Today the economy is too big for a few well-to-do bankers to cure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/03/2009
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Of Course Warren loves the government payouts to Goldman Sachsand other banks he is one of the first to get fed on the government bread line. Nothing like redistributing Wealth from Working Americans to Investors who have screwed up like Buffet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/03/2009
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A redistribution doesn't get paid back.

They're loans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/03/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

most is stock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 05/04/2009
- obamaluv I'm a Fan of obamaluv 3 fans permalink

Buffet and Cramer have certainly been prescient on the economy over the last 6 months. Past performance is no prediction of futer returns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/03/2009

It appears that Republicans do not know the difference between "Spending" and "Investment". President Obama's budget proposals are primarily "investments" rather than short term reckless "spending" as the Republicans are alleging.
Where were the Republicans when George W. and Cheney together ran up the national debt and deficit by irresponsibly invading Iraq, practically destroying it, and then spending to rebuild it? Is it not better to "spend" on our own country's needs rather than on another country which did not need our money to begin with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 05/03/2009
- obamaluv I'm a Fan of obamaluv 3 fans permalink

Bush started the tarp stuff you ignosheeple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 05/03/2009
- tippydog11 I'm a Fan of tippydog11 9 fans permalink

George Clooney said --When ever America needed the right guy, we gotten him...Thomas Jefferson, Adam---The American Consitutio­n-----Linc­olin--civi­l war, depression­----Roosev­elt--great depression -Kennedy--Cuban missile crises -- Obama--economy crises and global foreign also..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 05/03/2009
- jdw1981 I'm a Fan of jdw1981 44 fans permalink
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It's too early to say Obama is doing anything right. His economic recovery plan hasn't produced ANY tangible results in terms of job growth or overall stability for the people on Main Street. All the other Presidents you've named produced great accomplishments. Obama has talked about doing great things, but so far, not much has happened.

It's results, not words, that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 05/03/2009
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Jeez... can ya give the guy MORE than 100 days???

And who set that ridiculous standard anyways? Not much lasting can be accomplished in so short a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 05/03/2009

Buffett needs the market to rally to slow his bleed on the naked index options that he owns. Add in the money he put in Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo and the bailouts are working very well for him. As long as the government continues to enable fraud, men like Buffett will win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/02/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

Her is the link showing that Buffett is getting 175 milllion to walk away from BG&E
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/TOP%20STORY/2089282/

Plus 14% interest on a billion dollars thru 12/2009 or 140 million in interest for one year... AND SEE FREE LUNCH and read about MidAmerican Energy in Iowa and OREGON...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/02/2009
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Buffett's Insurance Interests=Terminate Public Funding of Health Care=More Buffett Profits!

Saving Buffett is NOT the Right Thing to do!

Buffett is the #1 contributor to Demo Senator Nelson who came out against government provided health care!

Nelson is owned by Insurance + Health Care + Pharma + Nursing Homes

Health Care paid him a TOTAL of $2,048,265!

Source:
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00005329

Insurance $1,195,299
Health Professionals $399,345
Pharmaceut­icals/Heal­th Products $258,483
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $195,138

Some of his Biggest Donners:

#1 Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway $75,550
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $59,523
NelNet Inc $49,100
Mutual of Omaha $46,100
Prudential Financial $35,500
PMA Group $31,350

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 05/02/2009
- zer0ne I'm a Fan of zer0ne 9 fans permalink

Good work Phil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 05/02/2009
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It's nonsense. He gave money to Nelson. That doesn't mean he owns him, or that every viewpoint Nelson holds is there because Buffett paid to have it stuck in his brain.

As for what Buffett wants to happen to health insurance, he owns stock in health insurance companies. In that industry they view the possibility that the Democrats will start paying them to insure the uninsured as a potential gold mine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 05/02/2009
- jdw1981 I'm a Fan of jdw1981 44 fans permalink
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Of course Buffett would say government is doing the right thing, because it's making fat cats like him even more obscenely wealthy. What's good for Buffett is NOT good for the rest of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 05/03/2009
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Here is How Washington Decides What the Right Direction is!

No votes on Mortgage Adjustments
Democrats - Banking Business Campaign Funding ($5 Million or more)
(Used OpenSecrets.org - exact same method for all Senators)

Sen Name and Funding (rounded to nearest Million)

Baucus (Mont.)$12,000,000
Specter (PA) $12,000,000
Nelson (Neb.)$7,000,000
Landrieu (La.)$7,000,000
Lincoln (Ark.) $7,000,000
Carper (DE) $5,000,000
Dorgan (ND) $5,000,000

Republicans - Banking Business Campaign Funding ($5 Million or more)

Sen Name and Funding (rounded to nearest Million)

McCain (R-AZ) $36,000,000
McConnell (R-KY) $12,000,000
Chambliss (R-GA) $9,000,000
Shelby (R-AL) $9,000,000
Bond (R-MO) $9,000,000
Hutchison (R-TX) $9,000,000
Cornyn (R-TX) $8,000,000
Hatch (R-UT) $8,000,000
Grassley (R-IA) $8,000,000
Kyl (R-AZ) $8,000,000
Alexander (R-Tenn)$7,000,000
Ensign (R-NV) $7,000,000
Burr (R-NC) $7,000,000
Bunning (R-KY) $7,000,000
Roberts (R-KS) $6,000,000
Collins (R-ME) $6,000,000
Thune (R-SD) $6,000,000
Voinovich (R-OH) $6,000,000
Inhofe (R-OK) $5,000,000
Graham (R-SC) $5,000,000
Bennett (R-UT) $5,000,000
Lugar (R-IN) $5,000,000
Crapo (R-ID) $5,000,000
Wicker (R-MS) $5,000,000

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 05/02/2009
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There is a time when you are in your prime and the decisions you make are good ones and at times even great. Then their comes the time when you are in decline and if you are lucky enough to realize this then you go about the rest of your life - quietly.

So much more can and will happen to our debt based economy utilizing a fractional reserve banking system. We have not yet seen a correction in the credit card industry, the bailout may have only postponed their inevitable crash. And, there is the magical world of the derivatives... I think a slow moderate decline is much better than a catastrophic collapse, so Obama may be, rightfully so, softening the blow.

Just think about all the info they won't tell the irrational tax paying public. Remember we won't know its over until a year after it's over - far too much data to analyze. So don't believe the reports that the economy has hit bottom and there are signs that the economy is recovering, they need you to buy stocks, who cares if you win or lose. Remember we did not realize that we were in a recession in 2008 until the first quarter 2009.

THIS IS A MARKET CORRECTION! This is a period of learning, no one knows what is going to happen in the next two years. If Berkshire is still around after the bottom then we will all know they made the right decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 05/02/2009
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You have to take this with a grain of salt. Buffet know that the finance world hangs on what he says to a large degree so if he starts saying we're all going to hell then it has a chance to become a self-full-filling prophecy. To be fair to him, he did call all of these complex financial instruments "weapons of mass financial destruction," quite a while ago.
Wayoutleft, you make a good point when you say that small investors can still make money; much to the dismay of EMH disciples. The difference is that small day-traders, tech analysis guys , shorters, etc, don't make the market. It's the super large scale funds and banks that do. They drink the Kool Aid on bad investments and the market soars. When these bad investments go bad they can't get off. Working with 100 shares at a time is much more flexible than trying to trade millions of shares. You can't just push "buy/sell" on an e*trade account. It's not scalable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/02/2009

In the days of honest and competent leadership any man who advised a President who would benefit materially from such advice was considered a lobbyist or interested party, therefore disallowed of that previlege. Now Mr. Buffett advises the President and will gain huge investment advantages and finacial rewards, no doubt, from that advice.
Such a system is conflict of interest management. In former times it was called a corrupt system of administration. Why do we tolerate it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 05/02/2009
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Exactly, Obama is listening to ALL WALL STREET linked Corruption and it shows!

Conflict of Interest is the Bedrock of his Economic Team!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/02/2009
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The euphemism is "crony capitalism". Sounds so nice and friendly, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/02/2009
- Enzo I'm a Fan of Enzo 7 fans permalink

Buffett's a dick in sheeps clothing. Always has been. Viagra can't save him now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 05/02/2009
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Soros is an even Bigger Problem!

$2.9 Billion in one year by shorting Company after Company after Company into Bankruptcy or near it requiring Bailouts by the Taxpayer!

These are TRULY EV1L people he relies on for counsel!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/02/2009
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Yet Soros is rarely criticized by the left wing-- any idea why this is so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 05/02/2009
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"I don't really see any advantages in having some crown prince around."

So, these guys really do see themselves as "royalty".

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Alvarado said that when the union requested a raise from Russell management, they responded by offering them a raise of 3 cents in U.S. dollars.

“We were shocked,” Alvarado said of the miniscule size of the raise.

He said that when the union refused to accept the raise, Russell management threatened to take offers to move the factory to El Salvador and Guatemala.

Holding a solid black Russell sweatshirt, Alvarado said the workers were required to meet high quotas. But Alvarado said that even if the workers hit such high marks, “we only make 1,300 lempiras, which in U.S. dollars would be about $60 a week.”

“We are not asking for enormous salaries,” he said, “all our organization is fighting for is dignity and a fair wage in which we can support our families.”

As a result of their participation in the unionization, Alvarado and Castellanos began receiving continuous threats to their lives from the company. Castellanos said she was so terrified by the threats that she told her kids that they couldn’t go to school one day.

The union leaders found they couldn’t even get cooperation from their own government, since many of the people who worked in business there also worked for the government.

http://www.michigandaily.com/content/2009-02-13/honduras-sweatshop-talk-students
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And that's how serfs are treated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 05/02/2009
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And Buffett told his investors they closed this due to the "recession".

They were threa-tening their workers' lives because they wanted to unionize for more pay!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/02/2009
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These people went to their own government for help but they were bought by business and then they went to OUR Congress for help to denounce the negligence of the Honduran government and so far got NOTHING.

And Buffett talks about "government is doing the right things"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 05/02/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 72 fans permalink

the Government is doing the RIGHT THING for the HAVE MORES.....seen any tax increases, seen any racketeering charges, seen any whistleblowers hired to clean up the executive corruption left by Bush? On the other hand, have you seen any pardons for the Abu Ghairab Grunts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/02/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Notice he didn't say the "just" thing.

He said the "right" thing.

Perhaps, he meant it in a political sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 05/03/2009
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By all definitions they are royalty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 05/02/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

It's really sad how some folks with a billion or two in net worth need to squeeze some poor worker in the USA or Honduras out of $20 a week to put a couple of extra $100K in their pockets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 05/03/2009
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get it together, huffpo. i'm a minor investor- but everybody i know outperformed warren buffet last year. why don't you get some of the short players to talk- someone who made money. don't think everything is as dumb, slothful and sclerotic as politics. if you're going to report finance you need to really up your game. think pre and post 9/11/08 as well as pre and post 9/11/01. while warren buffet was managing the titanic, john paulson was managing the USS Enterprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 05/02/2009
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And John Paulson is in trouble over it, too.

The Man Who Made Too Much
by Gary Weiss February 2009 Issue

Hedge fund manager John Paulson has profited more than anyone else from the financial crisis. His $3.7 billion payday in 2007 broke every record, and he made it all by betting against homeowners, shareholders, and the rest of us. Now he’s paying the price.

Left unexamined is the uncomfortable moral dimension of Paulson’s achievement. If he saw all of this coming, was it right for him to keep his own counsel, quietly trading while the financial system melted down? Do traders who figure out a way to profit from our misery deserve our contempt or our admiration, however grudging?

The question has long dogged that most hated species of Wall Street trader, the short-seller who profits by trading borrowed stock. Because of his recent success, Paulson is now their designated king. So it’s no surprise that he is finding himself the object of finger-pointing about who caused the mess we’re in.

In the view of many C.E.O.’s, short-sellers do more than just profit from corporate misfortune; they inflame it.

http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/01/07/John-Paulson-Profits-in-Downturn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 05/02/2009
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If he's so savvy, how come he bought his house at the top of the market, for $12.75 million in 2006, listed it a year ago for $19.5 million and can't move it at $13.9?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/photos/32717197_zpid/

Answer? Because he made his money on insider trading.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 05/02/2009
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