Gay Marriage: DC Council Approves Same-Sex Marriage Legislation

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BRIAN WESTLEY | May 5, 2009 06:09 PM EST | AP

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J.D. Campos, left, and his partner Ed Grandis, both of Washington who were married in California in July of 2008, clap as the District of Columbia City Council approves legislation to recognize same sex marriages performed in other states, in Washington, on Tuesday, May 5, 2009. Congress, which has final say over the city's laws, will get 30 days to review the bill assuming Democratic Mayor Adrian Fenty, a supporter, signs it. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

WASHINGTON — The city council in the nation's capital voted Tuesday to recognize same-sex marriages from states that approve them, a step that could propel the emotional issue into Congress and draw Democrats into a culture-wars battle with each other.

President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders responded to the 12-1 vote by the District of Columbia Council with near silence _ hoping to avoid aggravating Democratic factions already at odds over that issue and more.

Republicans, usually willing to exploit differences between Democrats, also barely reacted to the council's gay-marriage decision. GOP leaders and their aides, asked whether anyone will try to use the decision as a wedge issue, said they were preoccupied by matters such as the economic downturn and swine flu.

But they have time.

The city council vote is considered the first step toward eventually allowing gay marriages to be performed in Washington. Congress, which has final say over the city's laws, has 30 days to review the bill, assuming Democratic Mayor Adrian Fenty, a supporter, signs it.

If Congress takes no action, the bill will become law automatically.

The White House declined to comment on the council's vote, repeating Obama's general support for civil unions and belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said through a spokesman that Congress should not interfere in the D.C. government decision.

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Pelosi already has one vexing D.C. issue on her plate: giving its residents a voting seat in the House. The U.S. Senate has voted to do that, but only as part of a measure abolishing most of the city's gun control statutes. Pelosi has been reluctant to bring the district voter rights issue to a showdown vote between gun control advocates in her party and moderates concerned by the political power of the National Rifle Association.

Democratic Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who is gay, said he expects congressional opponents of gay marriage to rally to repeal the city's decision but doubts they'll get very far.

"For this to be overturned, it'd have to pass both houses and be signed by the president, and that's highly unlikely," Frank said.

Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Iowa allow gay marriage and lawmakers in several other states are considering whether to do the same. The Maine House approved a same-sex marriage bill Tuesday and sent it back to the state Senate, where it is expected to be taken up Wednesday.

New York recognizes gay marriages performed in other states.

Former Washington Mayor Marion Barry cast the lone council vote against recognizing same-sex marriages. He called it an "agonizing and difficult decision" that he made after praying and consulting with his constituents and the religious community.

Gay-marriage supporters greeted the vote with applause, but they were outnumbered at city hall by outraged opponents, including many black ministers.

The majority-black district is overwhelmingly Democratic, but public support for gay marriage is unclear. Exit polls in California indicated about seven in 10 black voters there weighed in against gay marriage in a November vote.

The Rev. Anthony Evans, a pastor at Mount Zion Baptist Church in Washington, said he would work to have the measure killed in Congress _ and to unseat every D.C. Council member who voted for it.

"They just kissed their political careers goodbye," he said.

Gay marriage supporters gathered outside the council hearing room included Ed Grandis, a lawyer who lives in the city with his husband, J.D. Campos. The pair married in California last year during the time same-sex marriage was legal there, and they hope to have their marriage recognized in D.C.

"We don't have any interest in making their religious institution recognize our marriage or our relationship," Grandis said. Instead, Grandis said, it's about the government recognizing the couple's civil rights.

The district already recognizes domestic partnerships, but gay marriage supporters say that's not enough.

"It's an equality issue," said Sara Mindel, who has been with her partner for nine years and has a 10-month-old son. "In my mind, marriage, although it's a wonderful religious ceremony, ultimately gives you so many important states' rights and legal rights."

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Associated Press writers Laurie Kellman and Gillian Gaynair contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — The city council in the nation's capital voted Tuesday to recognize same-sex marriages from states that approve them, a step that could propel the emotional issue into Congress and ...
WASHINGTON — The city council in the nation's capital voted Tuesday to recognize same-sex marriages from states that approve them, a step that could propel the emotional issue into Congress and ...
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The Rev. Anthony Evans, a pastor at Mount Zion Baptist Church in Washington, said he would work to have the measure killed in Congress _ and to unseat every D.C. Council member who voted for it.

"They just kissed their political careers goodbye," he said.

Tax him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 05/08/2009
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"But they have time"... yessss... to formulate and evil plan!! That will once again erode the fabric of humanity and pit one against another in yet another war based on "timeless" religious "facts.

Ugggh.
Whatever happened to acceptance and growth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/07/2009
- PhilipB I'm a Fan of PhilipB 71 fans permalink

Hi!
What I love today on the "Big News" page for marriage equality, called "gay marriage" here on Huffington post, is a couple holding their hands committing to marry each other.
I have no wish to get into a fight with the beauty pagent winner of California. I mean, I just do not. I do wish that for the last few days that the struggle for my civil rights was not characterized as my family against a beauty pageant queen.
I would hope that other gay couples could tell their story and why they want to get married.
I have told my personal story in other posts. I did this because I felt that in the prop 8 vote on my civil rights was that real people like me were not represented.
Thank you to all who have written so eloquently in support. It means so much to me.
Sincerely,
Philip

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 05/05/2009
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IT IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE.
IT IS NOT A RELIGIOUS ISSUE
IT IS NOT A DESCRIMINATION ISSUE:
IT IS A COMMUN SENSE ISSUE:
MARRIAGE IS “THE UNION OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN
FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE HUMANKIND”

Can any one of our governments explain HOW 2 PERSONS OF THE SAME GENDER CAN DO THIS?
This is a fundamental principle that nobody has considered in the definition.
If the definition has to be amended, it has to be in this direction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/05/2009
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Marriage is the social recognition of pair bonding.

There are two sexual orientations: homosexual and heterosexual.

Therefore, there are two types of pair bond: same-sex and opposite-sex.

As there are two sexual orientations and two types of pair bond, and given the fact that neither orientation involves disorder, there is no justification for hierarchism.

Further, every American has the same rights under the 1st and 14th amendments, rights that are not determined by religious thought of any kind, rights that no state may rescind. It is impossible to rationally argue that heterosexual Americans' pair bonds must be legally recognized while those of homosexual Americans must be ignored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/06/2009
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Actually there are more than just two sexual orientations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/06/2009

Marriage isn't a right but a privilege, that is, something that carries benefits into which all citizens pay. The payoff to society is that each new member has the nurturance of a mother and the discipline of a father -- both given in complementary forms of love. That's the bedrock of social stability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 05/10/2009
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I'll pass this along to heterosexuals couples that do not want or cannot have children.


Logic. It's so amazing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 05/06/2009
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Are you in favor of fertility testing as pre-requisite for getting married? If it is discovered that a married person is infertile, should their marriage be annulled? What about people who choose to live child-free?

Oh, and, BTW, ever hear of adoption?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 05/06/2009

MARRIAGE IS "THE UNION OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN
FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE HUMANKIND"

There is no part of this statement that's true. Just wishful thinking.

Through much of Africa and Asia, marriage is one man and as many women as he can get away with. In theUSA, mormons practice polygamy. Until Utah wanted to be a state, mormons practiced polygamy.

you do not require Procreation for marriage unless gay people are involved. Likewise, Marriage is not required for procreation. Heteros have babies all the time-- currently 40% of children are born out of wedlock in this country. that doesn't concern you. It has nothing to do with gay marriage. There are manysingle parents, either by choice or divorce. That doesn't bother you. Preventing gay people from getting married-- 3% MAX of marriages-- doesn't give any of those children a mother or father.

There is absolutely nothing about gay marriage that prevents hets from having children and continuing the human race-- as if that is a problem. 97% of the world's population is heterosexual. We are suffering the ill effects of overpopulation, because you keep popping them out for no other reason than because you CAN.

Gay people have children, whether their own, or adopted from hordes of the cast-off products of irresponsible heterosexual reproduction. Don't those children deserve the rights and protections that having married parents would provide? There are 70,000 of those children in california homes. Or do only the children of heteros matter?



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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 05/07/2009
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ADOPTION.
And there are LOADS of children who need parents.
Funny thing, too, about those kids parents: unwed, usually teens, didn't know their options, religious
families, drug addled lifestyles... you name it. Bad sitch.

By not allowing responsible adults to live, love and marry to provide welcoming homes there would be less loving homes for those kids.

The picture is so much bigger.
Honestly, do we really need to "continue" humankind? We're pretty strapped for resources so, this could be God's way of saying there needs to be some changes. Like tolerance, forgiveness and acceptance. Those are all in the bible right?? Kinda goes against some other things in there but, i'm pretty sure those were the BIG ones.

On that note: If gay marriage became widely accepted AND tolerated, it would no longer be considered "queer" (i.e. different or strange). It would be NORMAL. Because it is.
There are plenty of straight folks who marry and never reproduce. Should we unmarry them???? Should they be scorned and paraded as freaks? Sentenced to a life of unequality?

I'm straight, married and honestly, the effects of gay couples hasn't hurt my marriage.
In fact, the band that played at my wedding was a lesbian old timey country band!
They rocked the house! More power to 'em for making my life a little sweeter! And I wish them only the best because... after all, they are human, loving beings an deserve the very same rights as the rest of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 05/07/2009

It is all too sad.....just remember that you have been told this is sin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 05/05/2009

Yes we have. And we realize the people telling us this are the same ones who cherry pick the bible to their liking.

We've also been told, God's greatest commandment is Love. You also need to remember you have been told this before you go and try to use your religious views to justify discrimination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/05/2009

And please remember, Nacio, that not everyone shares your religion or your religious beliefs. We are a nation founded on the principles of religious freedom, separation of church and state, and equal civils rights for all. We who believe in our nation, in justice, and in freedom will keep fighting to ensure everyone is truly equally protected under our laws.

While I understand you might wish to impose your belief system on those who do not share it, our Constitution says you don't have that right. It also says that others don't have the right to impose theirs on you. Allowing others their basic civil rights imposes nothing on you. I realize it may make you grumpy that you don't get to impose your religious beliefs on everyone else, but it really should make you grateful. Someday, some hate-filled group might decide they don't think people named Nacio should have equal civil rights and the Constitution and many of us queers would be stepping right up to defend your right to be named Nacio.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/05/2009

Umm... Didn't Jesus die for everyone sins? Thus, you have a moot point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/05/2009

Spare us the religious sermon. I'm sure there are plenty of evangelical, bigoted, extremest blogs that care to hear your hypocritical judgments. We are not going away no matter what you say! This is a civil rights issue not a religious one. I remember hearing my grandparents complain about "all those black people who want to marry whites" same issue different group of minorities!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 05/05/2009
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Two things:

Gay marriage cannot effect heterosexual marriage. If you are worried about your hetero marriage, it's not from anything I have or can do.

Marriage is NOT a religious matter. It is a civil matter. Period. NOTE that in order to have a marriage in a church, you must first have a marriage license - a civil document. The church event is a ceremony to recognize the marriage. It does not create it. Churches have no place in this discussion - regardless of what they think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/05/2009
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Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/07/2009

Good for you DC...!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/05/2009

Who did Mayor Berry consult when he lit that crack pipe and took a puff?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 05/05/2009
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You mean Councilmember Barry. Our Mayor is Adrian Fenty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 05/05/2009
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Rev. Derek McCoy from the Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Md said "Once you redefine marriage, you redefine family."

Change is the only constant in life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 05/05/2009
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Yes, you redefine family to make it more inclusive. Always a good thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 05/06/2009
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Families come in all shapes and sizes. From grandparents raising their grand kids, to adopted children who aren't even of kin, to widowed mothers raising 4 children alone.

Family has been redefined so many times in so many ways... religious banter isn't going to change it back to whatever nuclear ideal you've been led to believe it is. Family is who is close to you, who loves and cares for you, who simply needs you and wants you to need them back. Family is protection, love, unity and it comes in so many forms. Some people no longer have "family" but, friends, a circle of comfort and belonging.

And marriage is all of that, too.
When we "redefine" marriage, our acceptances grow and our family only gets bigger and stronger.
But, we need the support of everyone to welcome those who've been left out....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/07/2009
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"The D.C. Council vote was 12-to-1, with former Mayor Marion Barry casting the lone opposing vote. He called it an "agonizing and difficult decision" that he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community."

So apparently "consulting with the religious community" is the new euphemism for sucking the glass deek.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/05/2009
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I live in DC and on the local news all last week you would have thought that the Ministers and congregants yelling nasty homophobic comments in front of TV cameras and being shown every night would have had the vote swinging Gawd's way. The way that some stations approached the story left viewers feeling like these people had the upper hand and credibility. Too bad, so sad they just do not get it. It has nothing to do with Gawd and everything to do with HUMAN rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/05/2009
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Keep your fingers crossed that Congress doesn't screw this up for DC.

Here it is folks; taxation without representation in action. DC can't pass a simple law recognizing marriages performed in other states without Congress (remember Eleanor Holmes Norton can't vote) having the final say. Next time you feel like tsk tsking at the District of Columbia, remember this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 05/05/2009
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Another step forward. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for NY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 05/05/2009
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NYS already recognizes marriages performed in other states. Just one more little baby step for marriage equality. Call your state Senator and Assembly person!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 05/05/2009
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JDRNYC, you could come to Massachusetts for a few days for your marriage, since they nixed the law prohibiting out of state same sex couples from marrying last year. Cambridge, MA has cheaper license fees than Boston, MA, oddly enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 05/05/2009
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"Every victory gonna bring another. Carry it on! Carry it on..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/05/2009

...with former Mayor Marion Barry casting the lone opposing vote. He called it an "agonizing and difficult decision." I guess he'll have to celebrate his superior morality with a little "snow" party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 05/05/2009
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Such fine company!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 05/05/2009
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