Tea Party Organizer: Effort "In A Very Disconcerting Position At The Moment"

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First Posted: 05- 5-09 09:10 AM   |   Updated: 06- 5-09 05:12 AM

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One of the leading coordinators of the tea parties that happened across the country on tax day, April 15, has penned a soul-searching letter to supporters saying the tea party effort is "in a very disconcerting position at the moment."

Eric Odom, administrator of TaxDayTeaParty.com (the online hub of the tea party phenomenon), wrote on Monday that he is troubled that the parties have come to be seen, from both within and without, as a unified "movement" with central leaders trampling the prerogatives of the grassroots.

Odom writes that at the federal policy level, tea partiers should be focused on three things: opposing "Socialized Healthcare," "Internet Taxation," and "Union Card Check."

At the local level, those sympathetic to the tea party events should look to strengthening processes for ballot initiatives and referendums, term limits, and supporting tea-minded candidates for local offices.

READ ODOM'S LETTER:


OK, seriously... what's going on with the Tea Party effort?
And what should we all be thinking as we move forward?

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Hi [Name],

If you're concerned about the direction of the Tea Party effort, it is VERY important that you take a few moments to read and digest this entire email.

I'm writing you because I find the Tea Party effort in a very disconcerting position at the moment. I've been on vacation for the past few days, so I'm a little behind on all the news, but from what I'm reading it sounds like there has been a lot of things said internally, within the effort, that probably should not have been said.

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For the record... I'm not writing you as a representative of any organization or coalition. I'm not writing you as director of this org or that org; Rather, I'm writing you as Eric Odom. Eric Odom the activist, the tea party organizer, and the concerned American.

I now recognize that I should have written to you about this sooner. I know that many of you are emailing me and calling my cell phone to try and figure out which "group" I am joining or which "coalition" I support, so I thought I would address that question, and follow it up with a full explanation of what I'm personally doing post April 15th.

To give you some quick background... I'm the guy who developed both the site and concept for the February 27th Chicago Tea Party as well as the April 15th Tax Day Tea Party. I'm not in any way suggesting this was all my idea, but I am asserting that I've been HEAVILY involved since minute one of everything that has happened in the movement to date.

This has given me a very unique and humble perspective on the Tea Party effort. Unique because I have numbers and data that no one else has. I mean, I know exactly how many visitors we had, what they were searching for, who contacted us, what they were asking, how many contacts we made, and how many media mentions we were privy to (among MANY other things). Humble because I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit behind the scenes and work to facilitate an environment where true grassroots activity can occur, which has provided a much different view of this movement as it unfolded as opposed to what many others have seen happen.

Since day one, I've strongly held the opinion that there should never be an "official" coalition or group to "oversee" the Tea Party effort. In fact, my belief is that doing so is impossible.

This caused problems between myself and a couple other national organizers because some of us shared vastly different opinions on how this movement should function.

Yes, we had a website. And yes, our website had sponsors (some of which, by the way, I was not very happy about), but I believe our sponsors did help us get an early nudge that we needed for mass attention, and in turn, mass collaboration.

But to me that should have been the end of it. In my view, our goal should have always been to simply facilitate an environment where local organizers could take the lead in this movement.

Sure, our website had difficulties... but that was a learning process for us and one we learned great lessons from. That said, we did everything possible to stay out of the way of local organizers. We didn't try and tell organizers what to do or say, we just tried to provide advice and help others share their experiences.

Essentially, our function as a website was solely to market local Tea Parties and help organizers collaborate. That was it!

Now I understand that some out there are saying "there is poor leadership involved within the group who originally started all of this", but to those folks I would remind them that I never wanted to be THE leader of this effort. Nor did I believe any of us at TaxDayTeaParty.com should try and become THE leader of this effort.

I constantly stated my desire to see all 800+ local organizers take a leadership role at the local level and begin developing local coalitions, taxpayer groups, lobby networks, citizen action groups, etc. It has been and always will be my opinion that a top down model fails every time in the modern day free-market movement.

So why on earth should we try and do it again?

And as a side note, we at some point need to understand the VITAL importance of regaining control of our LOCAL government. I get that fighting Federal battles is sexy and everyone is doing it, but I also get that we're losing our asses in our own back yards!

So I cringe when I see people claiming to be "leaders" in this movement make statements about the Federal government and how that is where all of our energy needs to be spent.

Here's a memo for you... the current administration as well as the current congress are doing a fantastic job of defeating themselves. Not to say we just ignore them, but if we devote all of our time to the Federal fight yet lose our states... we do so at our own peril.

I think this is why I have always gotten along so well with Stacy Mott of Smart Girl Politics and Ned Ryun over at American Majority. They get it. They're a part of a group of free-market movement folks who understand the value in fighting out-of-control government at the local level and how it in turn affects government at the federal level.

So, I think a part of what I'm trying to say here is that I never personally left the Tea Party Movement. In fact, I would suggest quite the opposite. I would, however, admit that I lost interest in being a part of a national "brand" that centers around planned protests in a top down format.

Also, I was never once a fan of trying to brand the free-market movement as the "Tea Party Movement." The DontGo Movement already learned a hard lesson from trying to do just that (http://dontgomovement.com). Last August we had a HUGE groundswell of action related to the energy debate, and through Twitter our campaign was branded "DontGo." The reason for that word is because our message is that we were paying extremely high gas prices and congress needed to stay in session to find a solution to the problem BEFORE going on vacation.

Just like with the Tea Party effort, many media outlets and political pundits put pen to paper claiming the "DontGo" campaign was officially a movement. This is what became the DontGo Movement.

The problem, however, is that there was an error in the way DontGo was viewed. DontGo was not a movement; Rather, it was a campaign within a movement. The real movement is much larger... the real movement is the nationwide free-market movement. DontGo shouldnt have been branded as a movement. Instead, it should have been branded as a national grassroots campaign within the movement.

I believe this should be the case for the Tea Party effort as well. The movement already existed, we just needed to be called into action. The Tea Party effort is not the movement... the Tea Party effort is a campaign we launched within the movement.

So what are we up to now?

I'm currently working with a coalition of folks that have opted to take a quieter, more strategic approach to the energy surrounding the Tea Party effort. We're developing a two pronged plan for long term political activity within the free-market movement, and I want to invite you to be a part of this effort.

1) Federal
At the Federal level, we believe we're looking at three very significant fights coming up that our coalitions and networks should be heavily involved in. It is our opinion that these are fights that we can not only play a major role in, but we think we can actually influence the outcome.

--Socialized Healthcare
--Internet Taxation
--Union Card Check
(and a few other free-market related issues as well)

2) Local/State
Our goals at the local level are as follows (not limited to):
--Revitalize and strengthen the initiative & referandum process
--Heavily support and push through Term Limit legislation
--Identify candiates for school board, city council, county boards, state legislatures and state constitutional offices... and arm them with the tools and knowledge needed to succeed at running for office
--Develop a large scale fifty state network of independently operated grassroots networks/coalitions that can effectively combat extreme local taxation
--Identify potential leaders and groups within the movement and provide them with the tools needed to expand and become politically successful

3) Long term planning for a large scale 50 state Capital protest on tax day of 2010

We hope to kick this effort off on June 1st, 2009, and we would love to have you as a part of the team.

Consider this a special invitation to a private, national strategic planning conference call that will take place on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009. In order to accept the invitation, you MUST send an email to info@taxdayteaparty.com and tell me why you desire to be a part of this conference call.

We'll reply with call credentials once we've reviewed your response and approve you as a participant (sorry for the long process... trying to block those who simply wish to disrupt what we're doing).

In the meantime, in regards to the Tea Party effort... keep doing what you do. We need lots more of it and I think we'll get it. But let's not lose focus on the bigger picture, and let's make sure we're thinking about the entire movement as we head into an important 2010 election cycle.

We the People have the power to take back our country. We need to get back on track and do the work that needs to be done to fix this broken system.

Best Regards,
-Eric Odom


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- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 221 fans permalink
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Only a self-obsessed RepubliKan would think the mindless ideological gibber that spews out of his mouth means anything to the rest of the American people.

http://kennethmarkhoover.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 05/05/2009
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Who would of thought that a movement calling for the impeachment of a popular president because he is giving the middle and working class a tax cut would be an utter failure?

It is sad that all the lobbyists and social conservative PR people have to do is blow the race whistle and the same 10 % ers always show up. And with a straight race they'll try to tell you it is not about race with same patronizing smirk and fake resentment that Boss Limbaugh uses when he says he is just a comedian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 05/05/2009
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Oh jeeze, I get so tired of people saying I was racebaitin and fearmongerin' at my rallies. Some are even sayin' these teabaggin' parties remind them of my rallies. It just saddens me that millions of African Americans are gettin' the wrong message.

Don't they know they should feel grateful that I am shakin' things up, rufflin' feathers also and too. Fer crying out loud, everyone knows that white evangelical social conservatives are the best suited to tell African Americans how to feel. So I am tellin' ya, don't be so thin skinned. Ya would think yer all a bunch of narcissistic divas. The universe does not revolve around ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/05/2009
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 221 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 05/05/2009
- londongal I'm a Fan of londongal 8 fans permalink

"We the People have the power to take back our country."

Oh, teabaggers want to take back the country NOW that it's in good hands? Where were the teabag protests when the Bush administration ran up those whopping deficits to pay for the unnecessary war in Iraq, which, by the way, is going to cost all of us in higher taxes eventually.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 05/05/2009
- tregibbs I'm a Fan of tregibbs 5 fans permalink
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Amen, brutha....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 05/05/2009
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Calling for the impeachment of a popular president because he is giving the middle and working class a tax cut was an idea bound to fail even before they attached the unfortunate teabagging imagery to it.

Predictable people are boring.

The lobbyists and rightwing PR people blow the whistle and the 10% ers come running.

What an army! 8 years of criminal mismanagement and runaway spending by the repubs and not a peep. And then a black man is elected president and suddenly they are up in arms.

Transparent people are also boring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 05/05/2009
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Couldn't have said it better myself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/05/2009

"What an army! 8 years of criminal mismanagement and runaway spending by the repubs and not a peep. And then a black man is elected president and suddenly they are up in arms."

Peel away the onion of Teabagger discontent and the above thought is what remains, wrapped in a shiny bow. It's always about race with these Obamites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/06/2009

Whoops...my 'Obamite' comment was supposed to be in quotation marks of mockery and derision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 05/06/2009
- rsprags I'm a Fan of rsprags 26 fans permalink
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You are so on point; the bottom feeders came out because they have a problem with the idea of the black President. It didn't matter if he never performed the tax cuts for 95% of the population and have been working tirelessly to get the economy going. None of that mattered - they had to let him know we reject you Obama and nothing you do will please us even if what you do is in our best interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/05/2009
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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ditto!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 05/06/2009
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I had to laugh while reading this. He acted as if this was a significant event. It was a very amusing dud. The fact that the Fox-Pravda network endorsed and promoted it so heavily made it an even grander failure. It is amusing that the last holdouts who are naive enough to push a belief-system that favors the people who screwed them (and the rest of the nation) financially, can act like they're a rising wave. The anti-war protests got zero help from the corporate media and were enormous. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/05/2009

Do you know any teabaggers. I do. The ones I know are the people who think that they above everyone else because of who they go to church with, how they control the thoughts and actions of their children, where they live and who lives in their subdivisions. All their actions and relationships are controlled by group think. They are the least benevolent, most judgmental, narrow minded people I know. I can't imagine being their child or their aging relative.

The people I know who identify themselves as teabaggers cannot conceive of living in a country, who has as it's leader a person of any color than white. The fact that we are now that country is the centerpiece of their planned and staged events, not taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/05/2009
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Describes the teabaggers I know. I've given up trying to talk sense to them, the hatred in their eyes is unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 05/05/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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"The people I know who identify themselves as teabaggers cannot conceive of living in a country, who has as it's leader a person of any color than white.'

I don't know any tea partiers who think that way. I don't even know any people who think that way. None of my friends, relatives, co-volunteers, co-tea partiers feel that way. You should not hang out with ra c ists if you can help it. None of my acquaintances are that way, so I don't have a problem avoiding that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 05/05/2009
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Didn't you read and see those signs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 05/05/2009
- mogeorge I'm a Fan of mogeorge 6 fans permalink

I believe you believe what you say. But where were these people during the previous administration. Were they unaware that the war and the tax cuts for the upper 1% were causing a dangerous deficit that would take generations to recover from? Why all the commotion now? If it is not an issue of race then it is an issue of political party. Either way, it isn't logical, which begs us to question the intelligence of your group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 05/05/2009

I don't know where you live, but in my state and it's bordering states it would be impossible not to know any of these people, or even to be related to them, as a matter of fact. I didn't say I "hung out" with teabaggers or that I like or agree with them, just that I know them.

By the way, I would like to read all of the signs that were at your tea party.I am sure they were all protesting higher taxes for those making over $250,000 a year. It was obviously not one or the events that made all the media outlets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/05/2009
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People like those described are not my friends or acquaitances.

I just work with about a dozen of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 05/05/2009
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That might just be because you are one of them? And just because you don't "see" the racist hatred, does NOT mean it isn't there. Many people I know myself would not come out and say they are racist, but just by observing their actions and opinions you can sure tell.

To me, the sign saying "Obama's plan - White Slavery" is racist. Plain and Simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 05/05/2009

Of course it is! One prevailing attitude of the Teabagger-type is that racism doesn't exist anymore and they were never racist in the first place. This requires one to not betray any internalized prejudice in a public forum that would constitute an awkward slip of the truth. In that instant the group goes into 'feigned outrage' mode and begins to feed on this unucky lone bigot... we've seen how rats do when one of their own falls from the pack. Anyway, that's a reason for the nonsensical, Stockholm-Syndromesque picketing. Their hatred is simply sublimated(?) into a social acceptable activity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/06/2009

Honestly, how many teabaggers do you think read this entire email?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/05/2009
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Honestly, how many teabaggers do you think can read?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/05/2009
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Questioning the intelligence of people you don't even know is always helpful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/05/2009
- tregibbs I'm a Fan of tregibbs 5 fans permalink
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They can't - they sit around the TV and listen to what's forced into their ears by FOX News. What a bunch of dumb sheep!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 05/05/2009
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READ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/05/2009
- mogeorge I'm a Fan of mogeorge 6 fans permalink

Well, I certainly couldn't finish it. Snore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/05/2009
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I was just looking at the picture accompanying this article. Shouldn't the sign that guy in the front is holding read, "Let my cousin have my kids before you tax [']em"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 05/05/2009

I love how two of three "federal" goals are not actually tax-related - one is healthcare, which I suppose is on the spending side but still, and the other is card check/majority signup, which really has nothing to do with government (it has to do with employer relations).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 05/05/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 78 fans permalink

do you honestly believe that healthcare will not be a new tax......how about tax and cap......and the gun grab

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/05/2009
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Gun grab --I wish there was a gun grab.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 05/05/2009
- valkyrie607 I'm a Fan of valkyrie607 106 fans permalink
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A new tax for universal health care? Sign me up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/05/2009
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 64 fans permalink
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Health insurance will be paid for by the people receiving it. At present they're talking about a plan for people who can't get health insurance from private companies. They will have to pay for it, so don't worry about your little share of tax going up.

And what gun grab... spare me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 05/05/2009
- rsprags I'm a Fan of rsprags 26 fans permalink
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You would think from reading this that we were having a conversation with some repurgs in the mid 80's and 90's - straight from the playbook. The gun lie comes out when you all don't have anything else intelligent to say!
This is so sad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 05/06/2009

Missy....... you have a lot to learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 05/05/2009
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Healthcare might include mental health, which would significantly diminish the turnout at teabagger rallies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 05/05/2009
- mogeorge I'm a Fan of mogeorge 6 fans permalink

Very funny. But healthcare must certainly include mental health issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 05/05/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Card check takes away the secret ballot, which takes away an individual right. The government will be taking away the right of the employee to vote secretly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 05/05/2009
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Totally and utterly false.

But it IS what Faux News says.

(Card check says the members can decide EITHER a secret ballot or a open card check.
And there is a whole corporate sponsored industry designed to frighten workers, with lies, of course, into voting against their own interests. And then there is the firing of those who organize unions.

But I have seen your post before. Facts have NEVER been a strong point)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 05/05/2009
- mogeorge I'm a Fan of mogeorge 6 fans permalink

You really need to educate yourself on this issue. From ALL points of view.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/05/2009
- OpalSky42 I'm a Fan of OpalSky42 15 fans permalink

Lady, do your research other than via Fox News. Card check will NOT take away the secret ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/05/2009
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Baaa....baaaa......."fox news says..."

(rolls eyes)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 05/05/2009
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Oh fer chrissakes, leave these patriotic Americans alone. They're just exercisin' their right to be incited to racial h a t re d - something I know a little about. Wink, wink.

Fact is yer average American can't tell the difference between socialism and blessings. Ya see, when your middle class gets a tax cut from a black President, that is socialism. But when Alaska gets more pork per capita than any other state, that is a blessing.

I know. I know, yer all askin' about those stimulus funds. Come on people did you really think I meant it when I said I wouldn't accept them? If ya did ya don't know Miss Fancy Pants. When have I ever told the truth about anything?

Jeeze, dontyall remember that when I was mayor of Wasilla I got $30 million in pork and then left the town $22 million in debt. Jeeze. The FLDS has got nothin on me when it comes to bleedin' the beast.

Did I mention I also scored the winning free throw in high school basketball game?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 05/05/2009
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You forgot to mention how you got the Fed money to build your $milllion for almost nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/05/2009
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That's $million house for nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 05/05/2009
- DFL I'm a Fan of DFL 41 fans permalink
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At many of Barack's rallies last year, he had more people at one rally than at all the tea parties combined!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 05/05/2009
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We've had more people at a single anti-war rally in Portland, OR than were at any 20 of the teabagger frolics. If those yahoos ever want an education on how to do a real protest, we'd be glad to school them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 05/05/2009
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 64 fans permalink
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"Those yahoos" run in the opposite direction when you say the word "school."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/05/2009
- peter777 I'm a Fan of peter777 19 fans permalink

These tea baggers are for socialism as long as it is for corporations, bankers, and financial institutions. Most of these people are dumb as dirt, otherwise, they would not be out there campaigning against improvements that would help 90 percent of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/05/2009
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Eric Odom needs to learn to be more succinct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 05/05/2009
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This hodgepodge of "teabaggers" are a sad lot imagine "takin" to the streets because those making over $250,000 might pay a little more in taxes,or everyone might get healthcare.They are a selfish heartless lot.I am sorry, but I do believe race is also involved in this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 05/05/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 78 fans permalink

believe what you want.........the taxed enough already movement is getting bigger everyday

laughing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/05/2009
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The tax rate in this country is low compared to other countries. Health care is a must it is an absolute sin the healthcare in this country or should I say access to it--we can't afford not to fix it!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/05/2009
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Calling for the impeachment of a popular president because he is giving the middle and working class a tax cut was an idea bound to fail even before they attached the unfortunate teabagging imagery to it.

What a bunch of clowns. The lobbyists and rightwing PR people blow the whistle and the 10% ers come running.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/05/2009
- mogeorge I'm a Fan of mogeorge 6 fans permalink

Your comment is funny indeed. Laughing right along with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 05/05/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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I'm sorry, but the assumptions you made are incorrect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/05/2009
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Then why didn't you people complain about "deficit spending" when the president doing it was white?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/05/2009
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Teabaggers are rich man slaves just like 90 percent of the repubs in the south are. I worked with a white guy who was raised on welfare and told me that we need less government. Its sad but rich repubs bank off this ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/05/2009
- imajoebob I'm a Fan of imajoebob 7 fans permalink

Actually, Julie, bluejoni is correct in both assumptions. Search for independent analyses of these topics and you'll see that the effective tax rates in the US are lower than every other "industrialized" country. The cost of healthcare, both for individuals and as percent of GDP, is the highest. The overall quality of healthcare is one of the lowest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 05/05/2009
- OpalSky42 I'm a Fan of OpalSky42 15 fans permalink

Where were the tea partiers when Bush ran through the surplus from Clinton and then ran up huge deficits in the last 8 years? Nowhere - you had not one harsh word to say. So, y'all can hush up now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/05/2009
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