Short Sales: Banks Blocking Way Out Of Foreclosure Crisis

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First Posted: 05- 8-09 03:35 PM   |   Updated: 06- 8-09 05:12 AM

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Brett Ellis, a real estate agent in Fort Myers, Fla., was thrilled when he got an offer for a property in Bell Tower Park in May 2008.

"It was a gorgeous property on the corner lot," Ellis told the Huffington Post. The owner, who had lost his job, wanted to sell the apartment for a loss rather than go into foreclosure, a strategy known as a short sale.

The offer was for $350,000, and Ellis, who is a certified distressed property expert trained in executing such sales, knew it was as good an offer as he was going to get in this market. He immediately sent the paperwork into the bank.

He waited for four months. The bank finally told him it wouldn't take anything less than $400,000 -- a price Ellis was sure he could never get. In September, the buyer's agent called to say, "You know what, we gotta move on, we gotta buy something else."

Now the property is sitting vacant as it slides into foreclosure. Its former owner's credit is destroyed, and the house is losing value every day. "God knows what the condition is today," Ellis said, adding he'd be surprised if the property is worth more than $290,000 when it resurfaces on the market. Add in the legal expenses involved in a foreclosure, and the bank cost itself a hundred thousand dollars more that it otherwise would have.

It's a scenario that plays out constantly, everywhere in the United States. In a time of collapsing real estate values, where one in five homes are now under water, a short sale is increasingly the only option before foreclosure. It is less damaging to credit scores and spares the homeowner the shame of foreclosure.

It is also a better option for banks: According to one analysis, short sales resulted in loan losses of only 19 percent, compared with an average loss of 40 percent on homes sold after foreclosure.

So why aren't these sales more widely used?

The broad answer is that the American financial system simply can't handle a collapse of this magnitude. The fates of the banking and real estate industries are intertwined. But they don't work together -- and the result is that they end up working against each other.

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The more precise answer is related to securitization, the method by which banks bundle together different mortgages and slice them up and sell the pieces to various investors. Securitization makes negotiating a real estate sale that results in a loss nearly impossible.

"The most significant aspect is that so many of the banks' mortgages have been securitized, put together and bundled, sold off to Iceland or China or some godforsaken place," said Dave Liniger, founder and chairman of global real estate company Re/Max, in an interview with the Huffington Post. "The bank has to go through all of the various people who are stakeholders and it becomes a very lengthy process, and the bank is turning off the realtors by not even getting answers back to them, sometimes for months."

Banks have little incentive to untie those bundles. Since mortgages are listed on the banks' balance sheets at the value of the original loan, if they complete a short sale they must record a loss on their balance sheets. That would explain why banks drag the process out as long as possible. In Ellis' case, the property is sitting vacant a year after the first offer, allowing the bank to list the original value on its balance sheet all along.

According to research firm Campbell Communications, only 23 percent of short sale transactions are actually completed. "Three out of four potential short sale transactions fail, principally because the mortgage servicer takes too long to respond to the offer," said Tom Popik, author of a February survey of real estate agents. "When these same properties are later sold it further depresses real estate prices."

Congress has had as much success untangling this mess as real estate agents.

"We've been trying to figure out probably for close to two years now why so few mortgages are being modified when it seems to make absolute business sense for the person holding the mortgage to modify rather than foreclose or to take a smaller loss selling it rather than a bigger loss foreclosing on it," said Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.).

Miller points his finger at securitization. Once the mortgages are bundled and sliced up into different pieces, known as tranches, the owners of the pieces get paid back according to a certain pecking order. Senior investors get paid back first and if there's a loss, the most junior investors won't get anything. It's those investors who are blocking short sales.

"The people with the least senior tranches have no reason to agree to the modification because they take a complete loss and the people in the most senior tranches don't lose anything. So they've managed to structure their mortgages in a way that makes it almost impossible to modify or sell short," said Miller.

Miller sponsored legislation to reform the bankruptcy code to allow judges to rewrite those contracts, taking away the ability of junior investors to sue and encouraging them to negotiate. But the House-approved measure died in the Senate, 51-45, killed last week by Republicans and 12 Democrats, leaving it 15 votes short of the 60 needed to overcome a filibuster.

Dave Liniger of Re/Max said the provision would have changed the bargaining landscape. Lenders would have had much more of an incentive to take a loss on a short sale rather than see a judge unilaterally change the terms of a mortgage.

"It was a negotiating ploy more than anything," Liniger said.

"It's disappointing," said Financial Services Committee chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) of the banks' tendency to foreclose rather than agree to a sale. "I've heard that and I've been trying to press the banks not to do that."

Without bankruptcy reform, the only power the government has is persuasion.

"In the absence of bankruptcy [legislation], you're talking about contracts that we cannot abrogate," he told the Huffington Post. "That's why bankruptcy was so important."

Is there any chance Congress will return to it?

"Excuse me, what planet were you on last week? The vote was 45 to 51. Why would you ask that? Do I think there's a likelihood we could overturn 45-51? No," said Frank.

"I wish it weren't the case," he added. "Maybe there's some kind of compromise."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) isn't confident. "The purpose of the debate last week was to try to create some impetus for the banks to start renegotiating these mortgages in a positive way and the industry fought it," Durbin, who last week concluded banks "frankly own the place," told the Huffington Post. "I think many of the banks have not operated in good faith when it comes to this mortgage foreclosure issue."

Homeowners are the big losers of the banks' battle against the bill. But real estate agents are now losing real money as commissions fall through, making them a potential lobbying counterweight to the banks.

The National Association of Realtors wants the rules changed: "We are advocating measures that would help streamline the process when using FHA, Fannie or Freddie," said NAR spokeswoman Mary Trupo in a statement to the Huffington Post. "We are hoping that new process and regulations are put in place."

Fannie Mae just wrapped up a pilot program to test a process for streamlining short sales by partnering with local listing providers in Arizona and Florida to pre-approve 400 properties for short sales. The government-backed mortgage firm is still evaluating feedback from brokers, but overall the program was a success, and a new short sale initiative is in the works for this year.

"Short sales are one of the tools to avoid foreclosure if all other workout options are exhausted. It's always in the best interest of the homeowner, the community, and the investor to avoid foreclosure," said Fannie Mae spokeswoman Amy Bonitatibus in a statement to the Huffington Post.

Liniger says Re/Max recently trained 5,000 employees in short sales.

Lita Smith-Mines, a lawyer who specializes in real estate on Long Island, told the Huffington Post she and her colleagues often see short sales turn into foreclosures because the bank won't play along--even when losses are as small as $25,000 and the offer is as high as it will get. And much higher, in this market, than the bank will get from a foreclosure auction. The legal costs of foreclosure alone typically run to $50,000.

"There's no common sense when it comes to lenders. They have their paperwork and if you don't slot perfectly in, they just say no," she said.

"A lot was taken on the front end [during the housing boom], but they're not giving anything back on the back end," she said. Smith-Mines, though, said she isn't surprised. "If they actually cared about borrowers, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place."

HuffPost readers: Has the bank foreclosed on your home after dragging its feet on a short sale? Have you given up on a short sale after making an offer and waiting months? Email us your story at submissions+foreclosure@huffingtonpost.com

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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Brett Ellis, a real estate agent in Fort Myers, Fla., was thrilled when he got an offer for a property in Bell Tower Park in May 2008. "It was a gorgeous property on the corner lot," Ellis told the H...
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- talkpeople I'm a Fan of talkpeople 3 fans permalink
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I say lets vote these corrupt Senators out of office and show the world that the bankers are not running our country anymore.
Nays: 51
Lamar Alexander (R-TN
John Barrasso (R-WY
Max Baucus (D-MT
Michael Bennet (D-CO
Robert Bennett (R-UT
Christopher Bond (R-MO
Sam Brownback (R-KS
Jim Bunning (R-KY
Richard Burr (R-NC
Robert Byrd (D-WV
Thomas Carper (D-DE
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA
Tom Coburn (R-OK
Thad Cochran (R-MS
Susan Collins (R-ME
Bob Corker (R-TN
John Cornyn (R-TX
Mike Crapo (R-ID
Jim DeMint (R-SC
Byron Dorgan (D-ND
John Ensign (R-NV
Michael Enzi (R-WY-)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC
Charles Grassley (R-IA
Judd Gregg (R-NH
Orrin Hatch (R-UT
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX
James Inhofe (R-OK
Johnny Isakson (R-GA
Mike Johanns (R-NE
Tim Johnson (D-SD
Jon Kyl (R-AZ
Mary Landrieu (D-LA
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR
Richard Lugar (R-IN
Mel Martinez (R-FL
John McCain (R-AZ
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK
Ben Nelson (D-NE
Mark Pryor (D-AR
Jim Risch (R-ID
Pat Roberts (R-KS
Richard Shelby (R-AL
Olympia Snowe (R-ME
Arlen Specter (D-PA
Tester (D-MT
John Thune (R-SD
David Vitter (R-LA
George Voinovich (R-OH
Roger Wicker (R-MS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 05/29/2009
- talkpeople I'm a Fan of talkpeople 3 fans permalink
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I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing "People bought more than they can afford...." and the best one is "They get what they deserve..." I am tired of hearing from the wholier than tho people out there. So since our economy is going down the drain, those who have lost hours at work or just plain lost their job or got (from the lenders themselves) oh don't worry sign on this line we can always go back before your loan adjusts and lock you inot a better rate. So all you more than perfect people out there your time will come and then you too will be saying hey why can't someone help us instead of always bending over for the bankers.
Another issue I have is that our trusted elected officals have no interest in helping us common people either. As long as those lobbist keep their pockets and project full and on going, we'll never get any good law to help.
At this point I'm not even sure that bailing out the greedy bankers was such a good idea
We should have let a few large banks fold to send a message around the world, you lent money to people who chances are won't be able to afford the ballon payments coming their way. So I guess then the bankers would then get their... you get what YOU deserve too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/29/2009
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In the entire history of the United States we have never experienced a financial crisis of this origin... from the bottom up. The Cacophony of Conceited Condescending Clueless Clowns of Congress cannot get it through there heads, that without PROPERLY providing loan modification, nothing good can happen. No one runs out to buy that new car from Detroit when they don't know if they will own a garage next week... quality and certainly "being green" have zero to do with Detroit's problems... ask Toyota about the Prius' that it cannot sell.

For every REO there are least 1.5 short sales on the market.. With another round of no less than 5-7 million more defaults on the horizon. The real answer is, WITHOUT QUALIFYING, to offer modification on every loan that is either already in default or "underwater" as follows:
The EXISTING loan balance into a 50 year amortized loan with a 5 year reset provision, and an entry rate of 4%. This would reduce payments by 45-50% and convert non-performing assets into performing loans. Thereby freeing up the lenders loan loss reserve requirements. This process would immediately stabilize the real estate market; and halt the hemorrhage in real estate tax revenue for the local governments. The savings would exceed $150 billion annually, most of which would be infused bak into the economy.

http://stanbrody.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/27/2009
- JXJASON I'm a Fan of JXJASON 10 fans permalink

To the commentators below,

I understand that the banks and mortgage brokers and others screwed up. But people did not have to buy homes that they could not afford. Everything that you referred to happened in 1989 and 1990 but it is worse today. Blame the 1999 Congress and Bill Clinton for deregulating the financial industry.

I am a former Certified Appraiser and Real Estate Broker. People who should have had common sense didn't.

Just like credit card users who maxed out their credit cards...they blame the credit card companies for the fact that they bought stuff with the credit card.

We have a serious problem in the US. It's called MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR DECISIONS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/18/2009
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Always come back to the mortgage brokers... just how many loan products did any mortgage broker take to Wall Street and the underwriter's for securitization . ..zero... "we" assumed that "smarter people" than us must know what they were doing; and so we went to market with this product... but NOT ONE mortgage broker ever created any loan product.

There is plenty of blame to go around... starting with the fact the congress failed miserably in its responsibility of oversight... Then Mr. Greenspan naively thought that Wall Street would self regulate... and yes, the mortgage industry, knowing full well that it was relying on equity growth, ought to have know better than to offer a 2 year ARM to a person with feces for credit and not a dime in the transaction... and of course NOT ONE buyer knew what they were doing... not one... I note that you are a "former" CRA... you got out when the going got though, and the new HVCC regulations took the profit out of it for you...

Then we have Mssrs. Bernanke, Paulson and Geithner treating this financial heart attack as though it was an ingrown toenail... Wall Street is not the issue today...it is loan modification... for I tell you without it this fiasco will continue for no less than another 2-3 years... we are no where near the bottom of this free fall.. the economy will not turn around this year nor next...

http://stanbrody.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 05/27/2009
- jensax I'm a Fan of jensax 2 fans permalink
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What is not being told is that the seller will have to pay the balance on the mortgage that the bank doesn't recoup from the shortsale. That is what I am going through now and I don't have the money to pay it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 05/14/2009

I think this is how it works. If the banks do nothing, houses are foreclosed. Everyone doesn't lose. After a period of time the govt(taxpayer) takes over the loss. Then the buds of the bankers go in and buy the house for a song. Really pretty simple. Taxpayer takes up the slack. By design

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 05/12/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 243 fans permalink

The banksters are demolishing the homes, even as people go homeless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/12/2009

For the last few months my wife and I have been in scramble mode-- we found a short sale. We put in an offer and were informed that the previous three offers had ditched after three weeks each with no contact from anyone (waited, waited, waited), but we were determined and hopeful, thinking it was win-win. Cheap house for us, underwater owner doesn't file for bankruptcy, bank gets more money than forclosing on the guy, and don't have lawyer fees and a vacant property.
We were gung-ho and ready to wait, and wait, and wait. We heard back from the bank, but shortly thereafter things stalled.
We had already sold the trailer we were living in, and had to be out in 40 days. I was eventually told (after a lot of phone tag and automated prompt systems) by a very courteous underling (who may not have liked his job very much) that banks were drawing short sales out over 6 months or more in hopes that the home values would go back up before they'd sell. He said I should give up if I had a time frame, because it wouldn't be met (I had even found some loopholes in the laws to force their hand, but they wouldn't budge). We packed it in (bank greed trumped our patience) and found our first house. We moved in a month ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/11/2009
- bsc I'm a Fan of bsc 10 fans permalink

short sales are extremely hard to finance and the contract does not include a guarantee that you will get clean title. they are risky to engage in and you could lose your entire deposit. the system needs new rules to protect buyer and seller in the short sale because it could be a great way out for all parties. buyer gets a good buy, seller gets out of a bad mortgage, and bank gets more money than they would in a foreclosure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 05/11/2009

I have been trying to get my loan modified since Feb. Gave them all my info. Was assigned a so called loan mitigation specialist. Have made numerous calls since Feb, never able to speak to the guy because I am told he has hundreds of such cases and he'll "get back to me".

My credit is good, my payments are being made. So I ask " what do I need to speak in person to this guy".

The answer: "Don't pay your mortgage"

So in order to stay in my house, I must live on less because my hours were cut back and ruin my credit in order for my "specialist" at Suntrust to return my call.

Great going. Fantastic work by our banking system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/11/2009
- Mrtnz I'm a Fan of Mrtnz 2 fans permalink
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Attention, Attention...To all those affected by the banks refusing to deal. The real reason they refuse to deal is because they have lost track of the note. Without the mortgage note they have nothing. Call them ask them for a copy of the note. This note is the most important document. without it they have no claim against you. Call them give them 48 business hours to produce said note. Because they bundled many mortgages many banks don't know who has what. Ask for the note, Today!!!
If the bank can't produce the note the property is yours free, they have no claim it's the law!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 05/11/2009
- bsc I'm a Fan of bsc 10 fans permalink

not so fast. some notes are recorded on the land records

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/11/2009

If you DO happen to go into a foreclosure, (and your credit score goes down faster than a hooker after a 50.00 bill .. ahem...

It is estimated your FICO score will take anywhere from a 100 to200 pt. hit, regardless if its a shortsell or a foreclosure believe it or not (got that from hud and mortg. folk) . But (get this) then in two years you can apply for a FHA loan, as they will not look at the FICO score. people need to check that option out, Foreclosure due to this crisis and Fico scores will have to be reevaulated. seriously.

Other than that, I think the gov. should put a halt to all foreclosures period, until they sort out this mess. otherwise, theirs gonna be a lot of us middle class homeless folk on the street. it will make the depression look like a carnival.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/13/2009
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Short Sales do Net the bank more money than a foreclosure. I have represented sellers in pre-foreclosure "Short Sales" and Banks with" REO's" after foreclosure. In every instance the bank makes more money accepting a Short Sale than selling the property as an REO.

So why are banks not accepting more Short Sales and why wouldn't they want to reduce their loss. This is a good question and frankly needs to be examined by both our government, our local board of realtors,
and The NAR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 05/11/2009
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I sincerely hope that the members of the senate who voted down the bankruptcy bill get to read this article as well as the comments from readers posted. These comments are real, they are first hand accounts of what is going on and what is happening to homeowners all over America.
One thing I wanted to add though is the fact that when owners are eventually forced into foreclosures, certain banks still go after those homeowners for deficiencies forcing people into bankrupcty. For people who have lost their home, lost their equity, downpayment and future retirement, it is like adding fuel to the fire especially when the banks sell these "deficiencies" to collection agencies for collection.
The housing crises will not go away unless the government mandates some type of action that is favorable to homeowners, after all, when banks foreclose, they:
1) Get the property and resell it
2) Collect on mortgage insurance
3) Claim their losses on business losses
4) Still collect on deficiencies
5) Get government money from Tarp
And, the homeowners get nothing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/11/2009
- chasmader I'm a Fan of chasmader 3 fans permalink
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I am Real Estate Broker in San Francisco. I've found myself listing a fair number of shorts lately. My advice to anyone out there consider such a move is to retain a professional short-sale negotiator and have lots and lots of patience.

Short sales, when done correctly can benefit everyone at the table:

* Provided the owner has a credible hardship (death, sickness, job loss, divorce, etc) they can live in their home for free until the sale closes, provided they maintain the home in salable condition.

* The lender will get a much better price than if it went all the way through foreclosure.

* The buyer gets a great deal on a home.

* The Realtors (on both sides of the deal) both earn a commission (some in my industry would say this is the best benefit).

Like Bankruptcy, this process shouldn't be entered into lightly, but when done correctly, the sellers credit will be less impacted than it from a BK or a Foreclosure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 05/11/2009
- Mrtnz I'm a Fan of Mrtnz 2 fans permalink
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Attention, Attention...To all those affected by the banks refusing to deal. The real reason they refuse to deal is because they have lost track of the note. Without the mortgage note they have nothing. Call them ask them for a copy of the note. This note is the most important document. without it they have no claim against you. Call them give them 48 business hours to produce said note. Because they bundled many mortgages many banks don't know who has what. Ask for the note, Today!!!
If the bank can't produce the note the property is yours free, they have no claim it's the law!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 05/11/2009
- chasmader I'm a Fan of chasmader 3 fans permalink
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Not necessarily

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/11/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 350 fans permalink
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Everything worked as long as housing prices continued to rise. Suddenly, though, there weren't enough buyers. At the same time, the first wave of the more exotic mortgages began to falter. Interest rates on adjustable-rate mortgages moved higher; the Fed was finally constricting the money flow, with the federal funds rate peaking at 5.25 percent in July 2006. Mortgages that were initially interest-only were close to resetting, with monthly payments jumping to include principal. A significant number of these mortgages moved into default and foreclosure, which further dampened housing prices.

The overall foreclosure numbers were SMALL; someone simply looking at housing statistics could be forgiven for wondering what all the fuss was about. Nationally, throughout 2007 and 2008, the number of mortgages moving into foreclosure was only about 1 percent to 2 percent, suggesting that 98 percent to 99 percent of mortgages are sound. But the foreclosed mortgages punched way above their weight class; they were laced throughout the mortgage-backed securities owned by most financial institutions.

No one fully understood how exposed the mortgage-backed securities were to the rising foreclosures.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/130330.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/10/2009
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Pretender Lenders Try to Get Third Parties to Clear Up Title, Assignments
May 6, 2009

Nationwide (described in article below) is not the only company that is in the business of trying to “clear up” the title, assignment and, ownership and recording problems caused by the manner in which the loans were securitized. In many cases we are seeing fabricated documents, signatures from unauthorized people, notarization in a place where the signatory was clearly not present and false dating.

Who is signing this new documentation? Most of the originating lenders are de-ad and buried. How can someone claim to be a VP of a de-ad company? And even if that signature was authorized, so what? The loan belongs to some group of investors or some insurance company that bailed out the investors, or the counterparty to a credit default swap, or the Treasury who paid $600 billion so far for “Troubled Assets” or the Fed which has extended credit taking the “troubled assets” as collateral.

The borrower has a right to know the identity of the true lender as of the current time whether his loan is in default, foreclosure or already has been foreclosed AND a right to know if someone has paid off the obligation and if there is some new obligation or new contract caused by the various permutations of pooling, insuring, cross collateralizing, bailouts etc.

http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/pretender-lenders-try-to-get-third-parties-to-clear-up-title-assignments/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 05/10/2009
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As Marcy Kaptur of Ohio said early on: MAKE THEM PRODUCE THE NOTE. Do NOT budge until they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/10/2009
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What a mess! Stop this complexity! Still creating MORE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/10/2009
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From Kai Wright's article posted below:

Per the OTS 91 percent of all outstanding home loans are now serviced by third-party banks and firms that don't own the note. The "servicing industry" has been making out big time, and servicers generally get paid twice as much to manage subprimes as primes, based on the idea that subprime loans require more work--frequent contact with borrowers and specialized labor.

But the boom obscured these costs; because very few loans demanded more than collecting and processing more and more payments, few firms invested in developing the kind of skills necessary to service subprime loans--doing so would have undermined the savings from consolidation, outsourcing and automation.

And servicers generally get paid twice as much to manage subprimes as primes, based on the idea that subprime loans require more work--frequent contact with borrowers and specialized labor. But the boom obscured these costs; because very few loans demanded more than collecting and processing more and more payments, few firms invested in developing the kind of skills necessary to service subprime loans--doing so would have undermined the savings from consolidation, outsourcing and automation.

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There should be a freeze on mortgages (as Obama promised) until this mess gets worked out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/10/2009
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For every mortgage that is in trouble, there are many derivatives that hold a piece of that mortgage. But worse still, on each of those derivatives there are many, many insurance bets that have been made and that are held by AIG.

There is not enough money in the universe to make AIG whole by taking those derivative derivatives off their hand.

As Elizabeth Warren at a Harvard Public Meeting on the crisis said: Helping the Banks is looking at the wrong end of the dog. We need to look at the original mortgages. If they are made whole the pyramid of derivatives that rest on each of them will also be made whole.

The way to do this is through the government entering into shared appreciation mortgages (SAMs) with the homeowner: the homeowners pay what they can, the government picks up the balance; both build up equity in the home which they will realize when the house is sold.

This will be expensive. It has the advantages of simplicity: there is no need to unbundle complex derivatives; the mortgage handler simply goes on receiving the original income flow which is passed upstream to the derivative holders; the derivative holders are made whole. It keeps homeowners in their house; it keeps homeowners' children in their same schools; it maintains the stability of neighborhoods.

http://martingevans.blogspot.com/2009/03/foreclosure-and-aig.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/10/2009

ever hear of creating a moral hazard for people to overextend themselves?

i bought a house i could afford, i didnt enter in agreements for properties i knew full well i couldnt make the payments on. there is no reason my neighbour should be rewarded for his irresponsibility

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