Short Sales: Banks Blocking Way Out Of Foreclosure Crisis

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First Posted: 05- 8-09 03:35 PM   |   Updated: 06- 8-09 05:12 AM

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Brett Ellis, a real estate agent in Fort Myers, Fla., was thrilled when he got an offer for a property in Bell Tower Park in May 2008.

"It was a gorgeous property on the corner lot," Ellis told the Huffington Post. The owner, who had lost his job, wanted to sell the apartment for a loss rather than go into foreclosure, a strategy known as a short sale.

The offer was for $350,000, and Ellis, who is a certified distressed property expert trained in executing such sales, knew it was as good an offer as he was going to get in this market. He immediately sent the paperwork into the bank.

He waited for four months. The bank finally told him it wouldn't take anything less than $400,000 -- a price Ellis was sure he could never get. In September, the buyer's agent called to say, "You know what, we gotta move on, we gotta buy something else."

Now the property is sitting vacant as it slides into foreclosure. Its former owner's credit is destroyed, and the house is losing value every day. "God knows what the condition is today," Ellis said, adding he'd be surprised if the property is worth more than $290,000 when it resurfaces on the market. Add in the legal expenses involved in a foreclosure, and the bank cost itself a hundred thousand dollars more that it otherwise would have.

It's a scenario that plays out constantly, everywhere in the United States. In a time of collapsing real estate values, where one in five homes are now under water, a short sale is increasingly the only option before foreclosure. It is less damaging to credit scores and spares the homeowner the shame of foreclosure.

It is also a better option for banks: According to one analysis, short sales resulted in loan losses of only 19 percent, compared with an average loss of 40 percent on homes sold after foreclosure.

So why aren't these sales more widely used?

The broad answer is that the American financial system simply can't handle a collapse of this magnitude. The fates of the banking and real estate industries are intertwined. But they don't work together -- and the result is that they end up working against each other.

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The more precise answer is related to securitization, the method by which banks bundle together different mortgages and slice them up and sell the pieces to various investors. Securitization makes negotiating a real estate sale that results in a loss nearly impossible.

"The most significant aspect is that so many of the banks' mortgages have been securitized, put together and bundled, sold off to Iceland or China or some godforsaken place," said Dave Liniger, founder and chairman of global real estate company Re/Max, in an interview with the Huffington Post. "The bank has to go through all of the various people who are stakeholders and it becomes a very lengthy process, and the bank is turning off the realtors by not even getting answers back to them, sometimes for months."

Banks have little incentive to untie those bundles. Since mortgages are listed on the banks' balance sheets at the value of the original loan, if they complete a short sale they must record a loss on their balance sheets. That would explain why banks drag the process out as long as possible. In Ellis' case, the property is sitting vacant a year after the first offer, allowing the bank to list the original value on its balance sheet all along.

According to research firm Campbell Communications, only 23 percent of short sale transactions are actually completed. "Three out of four potential short sale transactions fail, principally because the mortgage servicer takes too long to respond to the offer," said Tom Popik, author of a February survey of real estate agents. "When these same properties are later sold it further depresses real estate prices."

Congress has had as much success untangling this mess as real estate agents.

"We've been trying to figure out probably for close to two years now why so few mortgages are being modified when it seems to make absolute business sense for the person holding the mortgage to modify rather than foreclose or to take a smaller loss selling it rather than a bigger loss foreclosing on it," said Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.).

Miller points his finger at securitization. Once the mortgages are bundled and sliced up into different pieces, known as tranches, the owners of the pieces get paid back according to a certain pecking order. Senior investors get paid back first and if there's a loss, the most junior investors won't get anything. It's those investors who are blocking short sales.

"The people with the least senior tranches have no reason to agree to the modification because they take a complete loss and the people in the most senior tranches don't lose anything. So they've managed to structure their mortgages in a way that makes it almost impossible to modify or sell short," said Miller.

Miller sponsored legislation to reform the bankruptcy code to allow judges to rewrite those contracts, taking away the ability of junior investors to sue and encouraging them to negotiate. But the House-approved measure died in the Senate, 51-45, killed last week by Republicans and 12 Democrats, leaving it 15 votes short of the 60 needed to overcome a filibuster.

Dave Liniger of Re/Max said the provision would have changed the bargaining landscape. Lenders would have had much more of an incentive to take a loss on a short sale rather than see a judge unilaterally change the terms of a mortgage.

"It was a negotiating ploy more than anything," Liniger said.

"It's disappointing," said Financial Services Committee chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) of the banks' tendency to foreclose rather than agree to a sale. "I've heard that and I've been trying to press the banks not to do that."

Without bankruptcy reform, the only power the government has is persuasion.

"In the absence of bankruptcy [legislation], you're talking about contracts that we cannot abrogate," he told the Huffington Post. "That's why bankruptcy was so important."

Is there any chance Congress will return to it?

"Excuse me, what planet were you on last week? The vote was 45 to 51. Why would you ask that? Do I think there's a likelihood we could overturn 45-51? No," said Frank.

"I wish it weren't the case," he added. "Maybe there's some kind of compromise."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) isn't confident. "The purpose of the debate last week was to try to create some impetus for the banks to start renegotiating these mortgages in a positive way and the industry fought it," Durbin, who last week concluded banks "frankly own the place," told the Huffington Post. "I think many of the banks have not operated in good faith when it comes to this mortgage foreclosure issue."

Homeowners are the big losers of the banks' battle against the bill. But real estate agents are now losing real money as commissions fall through, making them a potential lobbying counterweight to the banks.

The National Association of Realtors wants the rules changed: "We are advocating measures that would help streamline the process when using FHA, Fannie or Freddie," said NAR spokeswoman Mary Trupo in a statement to the Huffington Post. "We are hoping that new process and regulations are put in place."

Fannie Mae just wrapped up a pilot program to test a process for streamlining short sales by partnering with local listing providers in Arizona and Florida to pre-approve 400 properties for short sales. The government-backed mortgage firm is still evaluating feedback from brokers, but overall the program was a success, and a new short sale initiative is in the works for this year.

"Short sales are one of the tools to avoid foreclosure if all other workout options are exhausted. It's always in the best interest of the homeowner, the community, and the investor to avoid foreclosure," said Fannie Mae spokeswoman Amy Bonitatibus in a statement to the Huffington Post.

Liniger says Re/Max recently trained 5,000 employees in short sales.

Lita Smith-Mines, a lawyer who specializes in real estate on Long Island, told the Huffington Post she and her colleagues often see short sales turn into foreclosures because the bank won't play along--even when losses are as small as $25,000 and the offer is as high as it will get. And much higher, in this market, than the bank will get from a foreclosure auction. The legal costs of foreclosure alone typically run to $50,000.

"There's no common sense when it comes to lenders. They have their paperwork and if you don't slot perfectly in, they just say no," she said.

"A lot was taken on the front end [during the housing boom], but they're not giving anything back on the back end," she said. Smith-Mines, though, said she isn't surprised. "If they actually cared about borrowers, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place."

HuffPost readers: Has the bank foreclosed on your home after dragging its feet on a short sale? Have you given up on a short sale after making an offer and waiting months? Email us your story at submissions+foreclosure@huffingtonpost.com

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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Brett Ellis, a real estate agent in Fort Myers, Fla., was thrilled when he got an offer for a property in Bell Tower Park in May 2008. "It was a gorgeous property on the corner lot," Ellis told the H...
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The Foreclosure Moratorium now in effect for the next 90 days in IL will only delay the process for many homeowners who may be faced with foreclosure. The current bill Senate Bill 2513 "Homeowners Protection Act"
requires lenders to notify all homeowners who are 30 past due on mortgage and offer them free credit counseling at a HUD Approved office. I have spoken to several counselors at these offices and they are being swamped with calls. Many do not know if they will be able to help these homeowners to modify their loans with the bank under the "Obama's Plan" because the plan keeps changing. I know people want to keep their homes but if people loose their jobs or do not meet the criteria of the Obama Plan they will not be helped. Thus I predict more foreclosures will be coming after the 90 days...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 05/09/2009
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THESE SENATORS VOTED AGAINST YOU & against Durbin's bill to allow bankruptcy judges to modify mortgages to prevent foreclosures. - The U.S. now faces 8 MILLION foreclosures.
NAYs ---51
Alexander (R-TN) - Barrasso (R-WY) - Baucus (D-MT) - Bennet (D-CO) - Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO) - Brownback (R-KS) - Bunning (R-KY) - Burr (R-NC) - Byrd (D-WV) -
Carper (D-DE) - Chambliss (R-GA) - Coburn (R-OK) - Cochran (R-MS) - Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN) - Cornyn (R-TX) - Crapo (R-ID) - DeMint (R-SC) - Dorgan (D-ND) -
Ensign (R-NV) - Enzi (R-WY) - Graham (R-SC) - Grassley (R-IA) - Gregg (R-NH) -
Hatch (R-UT) - Hutchison (R-TX) - Inhofe (R-OK) - Isakson (R-GA) - Johanns (R-NE) -
Johnson (D-SD) - Kyl (R-AZ) - Landrieu (D-LA) - Lincoln (D-AR) - Lugar (R-IN) -
Martinez (R-FL) - McCain (R-AZ) - McConnell (R-KY) - Murkowski (R-AK) - Nelson (D-NE) -
Pryor (D-AR) - Risch (R-ID) - Roberts (R-KS) - Shelby (R-AL) - Snowe (R-ME) -
Specter (D-PA) - Tester (D-MT) - Thune (R-SD) - Vitter (R-LA) - Voinovich (R-OH) -
Wicker (R-MS)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/09/2009
- FGW I'm a Fan of FGW 13 fans permalink
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So, what's new? Of course the banks own the place; they always have; they always will. Who do you think founded this country? Poor people? No, poor people fought the wars so the Rich "founders" could get Richer--and this is how it's always been. The banks own the government, the banks own the stocks and most companies, the banks own all the real estate, the banks own all the trade (they provide the letters of credit, and cash flow deficit loans, etc.), and they collect all the money that comes in and goes out--and they own the Fed. Banks are the owners; and their CEOs are the equivalent of royalty.

But the Banks owe China. That was one of the Republican strategies. Ship skilled labor to China so they could destroy American unions and workers.
China owns the place

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/09/2009

So what? So the banks own the place. Let's take "the place" back. Noisy and obnoxious impolite protesting in the streets. Get their attention. BY THE WAY, how can anyone believe that the two parties are equal in this as some people like FGW are saying. Look at the voting counts. Virtually EVERY Republican votes for the banks and ONLY just enough Democrats vote with Republicans to defeat re-structuring and re-regulation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/09/2009
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Now that we have the list of those who voted against this, ask youself how much money these same folks have taken from the banking industry. If its anything like what Specter took ($6 million) then you know they aren't for helping the little people, us!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 05/09/2009
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IN THE FALL FIRE THEM ALL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/09/2009
- lwaldmann I'm a Fan of lwaldmann 7 fans permalink

I realize that there are thousands of comments, but isn't this really the Elephant in the room?

Lary Waldman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 05/09/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 146 fans permalink

And believe it or not Lary, there are folks who post here who complain that too much space is given to the banking rip off. Go figure...T­hey must not enjoy freedom very much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/09/2009
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listen here's the deal
The Messiah isnt going to help homeowners­...Ok lets get that straight
The Banks own the democrats.­......Peri­od



http://wwwamericanpatriot-vance.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 05/09/2009
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Banks do own the house and senate...v­ia loobyists.
It all started with a small tax dispute case, Santa Clara County V Southern Pacific Railroad. and a little bit of court shenanigan by a court clerk named Bancroft Davis
Who had his own agenda, because he had served as president to the board of directors for The Newburg & New York Railroad Co. What in blazes he was doing there as a court clerk to begin with is unknown.
Anyway, in the preamble to the case, Chief Justice Morrison Waite said “We can all agree that equal protection under the law applies to these corporations as well.” After the case was decided, the foot notes were put together by none other than a railroad man who took it upon himself to include the equal protection under the law quote from the preamble as part of the summary judgment handed down. Its all the more amazing considering that the case wasn’t about equal protection at all. In fact the court skirted the issue altogether.
The immutable facts are … A corporation cannot exist without the consent and authority of the state. They can’t hold elective office, they can’t be sworn as citizens, nor can they be arrested. And most importantly they don’t enjoy the right to vote.
If they can’t be sworn in, hold office, be arrested and can’t vote, tell us how did they get the right to petition the government to redress a grievance?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/09/2009
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Banks do own the house and senate...v­ia loobyists.
It all started with a small tax dispute case, Santa Clara County V Southern Pacific Railroad. and a little bit of court shenanigan by a court clerk named Bancroft Davis
Who had his own agenda, because he had served as president to the board of directors for The Newburg & New York Railroad Co. What in blazes he was doing there as a court clerk to begin with is unknown.
Anyway, in the preamble to the case, Chief Justice Morrison Waite said “We can all agree that equal protection under the law applies to these corporations as well.” After the case was decided, the foot notes were put together by none other than a railroad man who took it upon himself to include the equal protection under the law quote from the preamble as part of the summary judgment handed down. Its all the more amazing considering that the case wasn’t about equal protection at all. In fact the court skirted the issue altogether.
The immutable facts are a corporation cannot exist without the consent and authority of the state. They can’t hold elective office, they can’t be sworn as citizens, nor can they be arrested. And most importantly they don’t enjoy the right to vote.
If they can’t be sworn in, hold office, be arrested and can’t vote, tell us how did they get the right to petition the government to redress a grievance?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/09/2009
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i envision a repository of progressive thought and people who support a real profressive agenda. this same mechanism would allow people to make campaign donations to any progressive in any race across the country.

putting national support behind regional progressive candidates will vault them to the national spotlight and enable them to defeat the incumbents.

another thought is to hire progressive lobbyists on a per issue basis, by garnering grassroots support and microdonations on a national level. it makes me nauseous that our senators are bought and paid for by business lobbies for what is really so very little money.

there should also be transparency in their legislative voting. simultansouly while voting on a particular piece of legislation, cspan should broadcast the campaign dollars that each politician accepted from the relevant industry. the same should be disclosed when these corrupt pigs are on TV blabbering about what they are doing to protect the interests of main street (e.g., Frank, Watson, Dodd, etc.). The only difference between most Dems and Repubs are empty promises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 05/09/2009
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Those sobs are getting billions and billions of OUR money to "bail" themselves out and they won't do squat to renegoiate a mortgage. Pigs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 05/09/2009
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As someone else wrote below, stop donating to the DNC. They are using your campaign donations to further the political careers of traitors. The DNC has far too much leeway to give campaign funds to people like Specter, Pelosi, et. al, whom I don't support and who have sold us down the river.

In these days of electronic access and online payment technology, every citizen should directly fund those campaigns of the candidates with a political agenda that is agreement with yours. It is important to also support regional campaigns that are outside of your geographic voting area, because this will enable "local" politicians to rise up to the national ranks and defeat incumbants who are voting against populist interests.

We should be able to collectively defeat the traitor dems in one voting cycle, if we commit our resources to doing so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/09/2009

In a democracy, the elected officials are only going to be as good as the voters allow. IF the voters are confused and uneducated about policy and facts ... well, that would help to explain why the South has been constantly voting AGAINST their best interest for a generation now ...

Victoria, when you say "Specter, Pelosi, et. al" I REALLY wonder how much of a grasp on the facts YOU have. Specter and Pelosi could NOT be more different on issues. If you do not support either ... who DO you support?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/09/2009
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Posted by MRNTZ:
Attention, Attention.­..To all those affected by the banks refusing to deal. The real reason they refuse to deal is because they have lost track of the note. Without the mortgage note they have nothing. Call them ask them for a copy of the note. This note is the most important document. without it they have no claim against you. Call them give them 48 business hours to produce said note. Because they bundled many mortgages many banks don't know who has what. Ask for the note, Today!!!
If the bank can't produce the note the property is yours free, they have no claim it's the law!!!

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Can anyone provide more details or point to an online legal resource. I have attempted to help several friends in this regard and upon requesting the note, the bank sent copies of the original notarized loan docs and sometimes nothing at all. Also, shouldn't the request be in writing, to prove that it was requested?

Additionally, this strategy would still require a lawsuit be filed by the borrower, correct? Is there a standard complaint that can be filed and will the court waive the filing fee?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/09/2009
- Mrtnz I'm a Fan of Mrtnz 2 fans permalink
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When they first serve you the summons. you have and must answer the summons within 20 calendar days. You will be given date to appear before the judge. When you appear before the judge, tell him you "don't believe the claimant is the orinal note holder." Believe me the judge will also want to see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/09/2009
- fleaba I'm a Fan of fleaba 10 fans permalink

What I'm wondering is if their is any recourse against banks for refusing to short sell and losing more money by the time it goes to auction? They are working on our dime and these are our assets, which they are devaluing even more by refusing to negotiate short sale.

Are they relying on AIG to step in and pay the difference or what? I don't understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/09/2009
- HareRaezer I'm a Fan of HareRaezer 2 fans permalink

Bill Moyers had on Dick Durban last night to discuss what happened with homeowner relief.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2009/05/wall_street_washington_and_str.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/09/2009
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SOLD OUT: HOW WALL STREET AND WASHINGTON BETRAYED AMERICA
March 2009

Consumer Education Organization: Essential Information
www.wallstreetwatch.org

http://www.wallstreetwatch.org/reports/sold_out.pdf

This is an essential read - a 231-page report that covers everything in great detail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/09/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 146 fans permalink

Looks like the children had to retire early--no staying power. Congrats on wresting control of the board back and restoring the conversation to pertinent and adult discourse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/09/2009
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PS--just beginning to read that pdf--Sold Out. Where did you find this, and do you have any background on the authors???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/09/2009
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I've heard of Harvey Rosenfield for many years here in California. Often I've heard him on Warren Olney's show on KCRW (and elsewhere) here in Los Angeles. They should have a statue erected of him and have it prominently displayed in a public space.

http://www.harveyrosenfield.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/09/2009
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I found it linked at Democratic Underground. Here is information about the group who did this:

The Wall Street Watch project is jointly sponsored by the Consumer Education Foundation and Essential Information.

The Consumer Education Foundation is a California-based non-profit, non-partisan consumer research, education and advocacy organization. Through grants and direct advocacy, CEF promotes public participation in policy matters, insurance loss prevention and shareholder rights, and stronger consumer protection laws.

Essential Information is a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization involved in a variety of projects to promote a more just economy, public health and a sustainable planet. We publish a bi-monthly magazine, Multinational Monitor, as well as books and reports. Our advocacy arm, Essential Action, undertakes strategic initiatives to advance corporate accountability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 05/10/2009
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Obama/Geit­hner/Emanu­el Plans=BIGGER MEGA-BANKS!
Summary: CarolAB Research

Geithner=Risk is US economy could take long time but he will take all necessary steps
Geithner"s angle=Slip money out of our back pockets=into WSBanksters" Incomes
Dorgan="We"ve seen money go out back door..unli­ke any time in the history of our country"
Dorgan="Nobody knows what went out of FED to whom and for what purpose"
Dorgan="How much from FDIC? How much from TARP? When? Why?"
No ONE=Oversees FED+holds FED accountable=Blame Congress=Unwilling to fight Lobbyists
Lobbyists+WS Banks=$5 Billion to Congress=$­7.5 Million/4Yrs to each Senator on average
Stress tests=designed to justify more capital to Banks by investors
If investors say NO=Geithner will come back again to Taxpayers
Banks use more capital=to consolidation into even bigger MEGA-Banks
FED=Bankers' private piggy bank=Experts say "Whole process has been a fiasco!"
Stress tests=conflict with plan to sell toxic assets+new regulations on "too-big-to-fail"
Stress tests=Shores up banks capital, but Problem is $1.5-$2Tri­llion Toxic Debts
Geithner plan=Create capital converting Taxpayer preferred stock into common shares
Further consolidation expected=smallest of 19 banks struggle to raise capital
JPM=size of 12 of 19 smallest banks+Dimon wants MORE acquisitions
Wells=plans further smaller bank acquisitions

Meanwhile for Main Street=NOTHING

Obama's housing plan=could intervene with government officials to rewrite mortgages=NO!
Obama"s Good Fairy Belief=In Buyers'+Lenders' interest to agree on new terms vs. foreclosure
But Original lender=Decides whether to modify loan, Despite long ago they sold loan pieces
Loan Originator's incentive=ZERO=No Movement

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 05/10/2009
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Judging by Chase and GMAC's lack of interest in modifying my mortgage so I could afford to keep my home, this comes as no surprise. If it wasn't a townhouse, I'd pull a Milton and burn it to the ground.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 05/09/2009
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Attention, Attention.­..To all those affected by the banks refusing to deal. The real reason they refuse to deal is because they have lost track of the note. Without the mortgage note they have nothing. Call them ask them for a copy of the note. This note is the most important document. without it they have no claim against you. Call them give them 48 business hours to produce said note. Because they bundled many mortgages many banks don't know who has what. They don't have any Idea where the original note is. If no one goes to the court and asks them to produce the original note, the judge will grant foreclosure. it is this simple. Ask for the note, Today!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 05/09/2009
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I am still waiting for an explanation from the White House why the cram down amendment wasn't more energetically supported.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 05/09/2009
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Simple. Geitner decided to partner with the hedge funds to remove "toxic assets" (i.e. underwater homes in distress) off the bank's books so their balance sheets were clean again then try to turn a profit on them. Think of the Obama administration as a big financial services industry being run by Geitner. Why in the world would you give homeowners a mechanism to stop your ability to liquidate that asset? Homeowners are just little ants whose world can be kicked in by a 13 year old boy named Geitner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/09/2009
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The process described in the article has been going on for about 1 1/2 years
already. I am a broker and am astounded at the losses incurred in these situations.
But it doesn't stop there- Here is one with a bank owned property, where the bank directly makes a decision : loan default $ 420,000, foreclosed, marketed for months, finally reduced to $ 279,900. My client offered $ 260000, week later bank countered $ 270000 as a final, client refused. One week later bank put back on market at $ 254900 !!?? No sense.- 2 weeks later client offered 229,900 bank refused to accept " going to auction " they said. 2 days before auction bank said they will accept but " their " contract form and em must be signed and delivered before auction day. Their " contract" stated 5% earnest money AND that it is NOT refundable if buyer cannot get financing ! Unheard of practice- buyer walked.- Auction on steps of property , winning bid $ 202,000. One month later property was back on market. Deterioration has been on going and accelerating . Property was still for sale over i year later from my clients first offer. I would fire the bank official that handled this transaction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 05/09/2009
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You'd have to fire all of them. We need to be collecting these stories and make a real big book of them. My neighbor was pushed out of the house she was renting. The owner owed 450,000 on its mortgage. Wells Fargo foreclosed. Everyone lost everything and had to move. One week later the house sold for $70,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 05/09/2009
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They stalled and they stall some more, because the don't have any Idea where the original note is. If no one goes to the court and asks them to produce the note the judge will grant foreclosure. it is this simple. They can't sell without the original note. that's why they stall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 05/09/2009
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This is just another example of why it was essential to Nationalize these banks as much of the system as it took, so that there aren't all these different parties working at cross purposes, and the banks still making the American public their victims..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 05/09/2009
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yea and the Messiah says he doesnt want to own backs and car companies
But now he wants to be in charge of the internet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 05/10/2009
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