Specter, Key "Centrist" Dems Open To Public Health Care Plan

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First Posted: 05-11-09 01:15 PM   |   Updated: 05-11-09 01:57 PM

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Progressive health care reform advocates got a major boost in their efforts to secure a public plan for insurance coverage when newly minted Democrat Arlen Specter said he would be open to such a proposal in a legislative compromise.

In a letter to the group Health Care for America Now, the Pennsylvania Democrat backed away from his position weeks ago opposing the plan. Now, under increasing pressure from progressive groups, Specter says he looks forward to "discussing and considering" the issue.

Separately, centrist Democratic senators told the Huffington Post they are keeping the door open to a public health care option after a compromise proposal from Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) last week. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) publicly announced his opposition to a public option the week before, spurring worry among advocates that more defections could be on the way.

Schumer's compromise emphasizes that the public health care plan must finance itself through premiums and must follow the same laws private insurers follow. He argues that it will be a better plan because it won't need to focus on advertising or generating short-term profits for Wall Street.

Even Nelson said he's listening. "I know he's making a strong effort here to find something that would work and I've talked to him about it and we're going to continue to talk," Nelson said.

So you're open to it?

"I'm open to listening to him explain to me how this would work and certainly congratulate him for coming forward with something. It's better than just saying no."

Specter, in his letter, said Schumer's proposal could serve as a useful "starting point" for discussions about a public health plan.

"With respect to the clause in the third bullet - 'to join a public health insurance plan' - I look forward to discussing and considering the issue. A starting point could be the proposal made by Senator Schumer earlier this week which seeks to maintain a level playing field between the private sector and any public plan. There may well be other proposals on this issue which should be considered in drafting legislation and debating the bill on the Senate floor."
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"The other issue which I think requires extensive debate and analysis is the clause in the eighth bullet - 'using the public's purchasing power to lower drug and other prices.'.... In order to maintain a level playing field between the private sector and any public plan, consideration would have to be given to the implications of the Government's purchasing power in buying prescription drugs which could provide an unfair competitive advantage. There may be other proposals on this issue which should be considered in drafting legislation and debating the issue on the Senate floor."

The Associated Press first reported Specter's openness to a public plan. The Huffington Post obtained his letter to HCAN.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) says that she's still weighing the public option. "I am actually not sure," she told the Huffington Post. "I don't think I am [for it], but I told the folks that are promoting it that I would talk with them, but I am an original cosponsor of the Wyden-Bennett bipartisan proposal -- the only bipartisan proposal that I know of. And so I'm going to stay focused on that as a core, but I'm not going to shut the door on anything right now."

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) is not pushing his proposal aggressively; the biggest fight in the Senate is whether to include a public option. Wyden supports a public option himself, but didn't include it in order to garner Republican cosponsors.

But not all Senate Republicans are entirely closed off to a public plan.

"I am looking at all the alternatives at this point," said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) of the public option. "I have a lot of concerns about the impact of a public plan. The Lewin Group has estimated that it could cause 119 million people to be transferred from private plans to public plans, which would mean the collapse of the private insurance system which I don't think would serve our country well."

Asked specifically about Schumer's compromise, she said she had yet to review it. Public plan advocates dispute the Lewin Group findings and insist a public plan can work in conjunction with private insurers.

Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) sounded disinclined to support a public option, but he hasn't shut the door yet. "I don't have a closed mind on it, but I want to hear folks out through advocates and we'll decide," he said.

Sen. Jim Webb is one centrist Democrat who has come out in favor of a public plan. His Virginia colleague, Democrat Mark Warner, hasn't gone that far yet. But he's open.

"I haven't weighed in on that yet," Warner said.

The White House announced a commitment Sunday night to partner with the insurance industry to cut health care costs by $2 trillion, a collaboration that Paul Krugman declared "some of the best policy news I've heard in a long time."


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Progressive health care reform advocates got a major boost in their efforts to secure a public plan for insurance coverage when newly minted Democrat Arlen Specter said he would be open to such a prop...
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To us Canadians, and the rest of the first world, this all seems so stupid. I am not being critical just descriptive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 05/11/2009
- judiNJ I'm a Fan of judiNJ 53 fans permalink
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I know and it is embarrassing. I have Medicare and am happy as a tick in a hound dog. However, who are the Canadians that are taking part in the GOP's anti-national health care ads. Not nice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/11/2009

Stupid? I cant think of a better word. I tried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 05/11/2009

well, neighbor, just be thankful you guys avoided having Ronald rRagan as a leader--i mean can you blame us for being a few years (decades) behind after THAT train wreck??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 05/11/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Well, many of us may not have adequate medical insurance.

But in important things like keeping down the number of flags burned, of gay marriages performed (and gay divorces) we stand tall and proud among the nations of the world. Did I mention the Second Amendment?

Bet you're real envious now, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/11/2009
- jrmarsh I'm a Fan of jrmarsh 52 fans permalink
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My wife is 8 months pregnant with twins, one of which will be born with a very serious heart defect. Last week, she was feeling very ill so she went to a local Urgent Care facility. It took her 45 minutes to fill out paper work before they would treat her after which the receptionist said "We don't have an HMO contract with Aetna" even thought the first thing she did was hand them the card with HMO printed in big letters. They tried to turn her away even though she was in need of treatment. Finally she drove herself to the local hospital, she sat probably for another hour before she was treated with an IV for 1.5 hours for dehydration.

The Bill: $3,500.00

I think we need health-care reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 05/11/2009
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I think you're right.

Good luck with the new babies. Hope the little one pulls through with flying colors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 05/11/2009
- idkalu I'm a Fan of idkalu 6 fans permalink

DO NOT FALL FOR SCHUMER'S BULL-ISH PROPOSAL!!!

"Schumer's compromise emphasizes that the public health care plan must finance itself through premiums and must follow the same laws private insurers follow."

Republicans and centrist Democrats won't go for an overhauled health care plan that has a single-payer system. For this reason alone, weak democrats devised a compromise, which we know as the, "public option." This option is similar to a single-payer system, in that it ensures coverage for all, and the reason why republicans and special interest groups are against it as well, is because it brings competition on an uneven playing field, where the public plan has the advantage of being backed by federal funds provided by hard-working tax payers that demand great care in return.

Schumer's plan is just another health insurer created by the government instead of a private company, which is fine. BUT SCHUMER'S PLAN STRIPS THE NEEDED ADVANTAGE THAT A PUBLIC PLAN WOULD HAVE OVER PRIVATE PLANS, making his plan just another insurance company in the pool of many. BUT WHAT MAKES HIS WORSE IS THAT IT USES THE TAX DOLLARS OF HARD WORKING AMERICANS AND CHARGES THEM PREMIUMS ON A SERVICE THEY'VE ALREADY FUNDED WITH THEIR OWN MONEY via TAXES.

THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE COMPROMISE, HIS OPTION IS ANOTHER INSURANCE COMPANY, WITH THE WORD "PUBLIC" SCRIBBLED ON IT TO SEDATE THE MASSES only this time the gov. gets paid double , DO NOT BE FOOLED!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 05/11/2009

That is ridiculous. Following the same accounting rules as private companies does not make it a private company. Please be smarter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/11/2009
- idkalu I'm a Fan of idkalu 6 fans permalink

LMAO...
You missed the premise and I don't engage in reply wars. Go ahead and give it a second read, this time with a tutor.
-Always disagree respectfully and remember to live well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/11/2009
- Billl I'm a Fan of Billl 12 fans permalink

Health care should be about caring for people to produce good outcomes in a cost effective manner.
Two options should be offered to individuals and businesses to either use:
A free, government, owned and operated, VA style civilian National Health Care System, funded by a national sales tax, no insurance, no co pays, and free period:
Or the alternate choice would be for individuals or businesses to choose private systems for care.
Private care would allow for the unlimited choice of doctors, clinics, hospitals, timing, and treatments, Ford Fiesta or Rolls-Royce, but it would require the user to pay privately for their health services, either by self pay, company pay, private insurance, whatever, but no government payments should be paid to private providers for private care.
Costs of health care paid for by government programs, (Medicare-Medicaid etc.) could be reduced, to a fraction of their current expenditures, with better outcomes, if the services for these programs were delivered from a utilitarian VA style System.
Businesses choosing national health care would free themselves from all financial burdens or any involvement in any way for the health services their employees receive.
This would apply to companies the size of General Motors or as small as Joe's Pizza.
This article, (The Best Care Anywhere by Phillip Longman)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html
documents how the VA was transformed by Dr. Kizer, into a system that is producing the highest quality health care in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/11/2009
- elmerfude I'm a Fan of elmerfude 37 fans permalink

Senator Ben Nelson
720 Hart SOB
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Nelson:

You recently stated that the option for people to choose a government Medicare type option for insurance coverage would create an “unfair” competition because the government could negotiate lower prices from hospitals and doctors than private insurance. What are you thinking? Are you a socialist? This is like saying that WalMart is an unfair competitor because they can negotiate lower prices from suppliers. If the government can offer lower cost insurance than private insurance providers, so be it. The overhead rate for Medicare is only about 5 %--far better than private insurance.

As a retiree I have found Medicare to be very well operated as is Group Health (a non profit HMO) that supplies my supplementary and prescription insurance. In fact the Medicare premiums have not increased that much and Group Health premiums have not increased at all for the last several years. If private insurance cannot compete with the government plan on cost, let them compete on service and quality although I have no problems with Medicare along those lines.

I think you have lost sight of the main objective. It is to provide Americans with health coverage, not to keep private insurance companies in business. I am sure you will lobbied and given a lot of money to oppose real health care reform. This is a real shame if not downright unpatriotic. Step up and do what is right.

Yours truly,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/11/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

how about downright illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/11/2009

I am so sick of double-speak from politicians who have No regard for the people who elected them. Besides, this is not a partisan issue. Both sides of the isle know how bad it is for regular folks out beyond the Beltway.
All that magnanumus talk almost made me chock on my lunch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 05/11/2009

Oh, How Big of you all. Give Me A Break. I about gagged over all that magnanamus talk from Dems.
You would think they were having to actually bend over.
Get with the Program, Folks. sheesh.
This hodge podge health care system of ours has been broken and a money tree for corporate insurance for so long ... you would Think these moderate Dems would be More than willing to just step up to the plate and swing.sigh... so sick of politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/11/2009
- Miketou I'm a Fan of Miketou 9 fans permalink

I'm still trying to fgure out why a hospital will bill you $10 for two asprins, while the local drug store charges a little over $4 for an entire bottle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 05/11/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

because hospitals are run by companies. even community hospitals have some deal with companies. some have CEOs. it's about the money.
this is America. everything is about the money.
insurers make profit of the pain and suffering of people.
it always comes back to money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 05/11/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

un-Fing-believable!
I really hope I'm wrong, but it seems like this is the ultimate and blatant sellout of the American people.
They're not even ashamed to admit that they won't support a public health plan because they don't want it to hurt private insurers.

1. first the bailouts. execs keep their jobs, salaries, and bonuses. lower tier people fired. lending decreased. they took the money and used it to lobby against us. credit card companies, some we bailed out, increased rates at will. American taxpayer 0.
2. then torture. Obama declared those who committed torture will not be prosecuted. and it looks like those who ordered it won't be prosecuted. American/i­nternation­al law and morality 0.
3. and now healthcare. insurance companies make money at the expense of people's pain and suffering. they even deny coverage to those with insurance, including children. every 30 seconds someone goes bankrupt due to medical bills (even with insurance) - http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml. now the same people making billions from the suffering of people, are allowed to modify the healthcare system. at what point does the pain and suffering of people become relevant? all other industrialized countries have universal healthcare. our elected representative, our soldiers, and medicare recipients have it.
what is wrong with this country?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/11/2009
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I'm right there with you. Unfortunately there are still too many people who can't give up $100 a month so they and everyone else can have comprehensive health care that will prevent all those bankruptcies.

They just don't want to help anyone but themselves. (sound like a republican?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 05/11/2009
- vesaversa1 I'm a Fan of vesaversa1 12 fans permalink
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LOL did Specter just flip flop ,you have to love politics and politicians they say thing one minute and dose another or opposite the next

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/11/2009
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Someone showed him the latest polls...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 05/11/2009
- Pammy2 I'm a Fan of Pammy2 20 fans permalink

Just once I would like to hear a journalist ask a politician:

Sir (or Madame): Would you support or oppose extending to every American citizen the health benefits YOU enjoy? And if not, why not?

Follow up: If you think every American should buy insurance from a private insurance company, would you be willing to do the same? If not, why not?

Just once. Please. Somebody ask that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 05/11/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

heard that.

but they never will. they're not real journalists. they're spectators on the sidelines, making money while Americans suffer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/11/2009
- elmerfude I'm a Fan of elmerfude 37 fans permalink

Ask them yourself. It is easy to get the address of any Senator or Congressman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/11/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

they're not going to reply to that.
or the reply will be political speak, ie. words that don't say anything or answer the question.

they're cowards and self-interest motivated thieves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/11/2009
- Pammy2 I'm a Fan of Pammy2 20 fans permalink

I have. But Americans need to hear it publicly. Most people will only find out something if they hear it on TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 05/11/2009
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 77 fans permalink
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gee..thanks *sigh*. God forbid we SOMETHING for our loyalty

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 05/11/2009
- noam4prez I'm a Fan of noam4prez 9 fans permalink

You have to be very suspicious when "centrists" support something. As we know, "centrist" is the codeword for "beholden to special interests, but trying to appear to support ordinary people".

This whole scheme as described handicaps a good system so that it will be non-competitive with the current disastrous system.

That way, the insurance companies can still rip us off, while the "centrists" appear to be "reforming" the system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 05/11/2009

I want free healthcare. I want to walk into a hospital, show them my ID and get treated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/11/2009
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 77 fans permalink
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so do I..and I want the freedom to leave my company that has a very poor culture and unfair pay. So I can be a "capitalist" and pimp my talent where I want to. And not have to "sell out" because I need "benefits"....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 05/11/2009
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Then go to Europe because it's not going to happen here...not in our lifetime anyway. The health insurance companies have our leaders way too deep in their pockets. There is just simply too much money to be made by both the industry and the politicians and neither one is going to simply hand over free healthcare to us. Right now there is some discussion on a similar model to France and the choice between public and private care. I'd be VERY surprised if that ever even got seriously debated in congress, let alone passed, signed into law, and implemented. It sounds like a good idea, but I'm very doubtful it will happen. Call me cynical, call me a skeptic, but they care more about their own bank accounts more than our national well-being. And I will continue to believe that until I am proven otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/11/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

You are wrong. Some form of health care will happen...in time it will be comprehensive...in fact it may happen this year because and overwhelming majority of Americans want it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 05/11/2009
- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 40 fans permalink


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2009 - The WSJ reported that Richard Scott, "the former chief executive of HCA Inc," had formed the non-profit organization Conservatives for Patients' Rights as part of a "lobbying campaign to derail or modify" President Obama's health care proposals,

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In 2002 FBI raided the offices of National Century Financial Enterprises in Dublin, Ohio

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