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First Posted: 05-12-09 07:00 PM   |   Updated: 06-12-09 05:12 AM

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A first shot, of sorts, is being fired in the Obama-era battle for health care reform.

Organizing for America, President Obama's political arm, is blasting out an email to its massive list of supporters urging them to join an "Organizing for Health Care" campaign.

The message emphasizes Obama's "three bedrock principles" for reform -- reduce costs, guarantee choice, and "ensure affordable care for all" -- and presses the president's "hard goal" of getting a health overhaul passed into law by the end of this year.

Read the full email below, authored by Mitch Stewart, the executive director of OFA.

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Monday morning, an unlikely gathering of health care industry and union leaders emerged from the White House, announcing a historic agreement to lower medical costs and save the average family up to $2,500. This kind of broad coalition would have been unthinkable in the past, when the old politics of division and short-term self interest held sway. But this is a new day.

Yesterday afternoon, President Obama announced the three bedrock principles that any comprehensive health care reform must achieve: (1) reduce costs, (2) guarantee choice, and (3) ensure all Americans have quality, affordable health care. And he set a hard goal for getting it done by the end of this year.

For those determined to oppose reform, the President's announcement means lobbyists are already scrambling across D.C. For the rest of us, it means there's no time to lose. As we speak, Congress is negotiating the details for health care reform, so the first step is showing where the American people stand.

Please click below to sign a declaration of support urging Congress to follow President Obama's three core principles for health care reform -- and to enact them before the end of this year:

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http://my.barackobama.com/OrganizingforHealthcare

(The more signatures we have, the more powerful our message will be, so please add your name and then forward this note on to family and friends.)

The health care crisis is not new, but it's getting worse. For decades, real health care reform has been blocked by special interest lobbying and political point-scoring. We simply cannot go any further down this dangerous road of delay and denial. But we don't have to.

Yesterday's agreement marks only the beginning of the broad coalition we need. The most important reason this round of health care reform will be different is you. Last fall millions of regular people came together and did the impossible. Now, we've got to roll up our sleeves, join hands with those new to our movement, and do it again.

Congress is already hammering out the details of the health care package, and it could still go any number of ways. Our representatives need to understand that when the President lays out these three bedrock principles, Americans of every stripe are standing with him. Yesterday's diverse gathering was a powerful start -- and now it's up to us.

It's time to stand up. Please sign the declaration of support today:

http://my.barackobama.com/OrganizingforHealthcare

Reducing costs, guaranteeing choice, and ensuring care for all are ambitious goals, but they are nothing less than what the American people deserve. And passing real health care reform this year is nothing less than what the American people need.

Thank you,

Mitch

Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America

P.S. -- Here are some excerpts from the President's announcement yesterday that lay out the three principles for health care reform and why we need it this year. Please forward this note to people who want to know where the President stands.

President Obama:

"In the coming weeks and months, Congress will be engaged in the difficult issue of how best to reform health care in America. I'm committed to building a transparent process where all views are welcome. But I'm also committed to ensuring that whatever plan we design upholds three basic principles: First, the rising cost of health care must be brought down; second, Americans must have the freedom to keep whatever doctor and health care plan they have, or to choose a new doctor or health care plan if they want it; and third, all Americans must have quality, affordable health care.

"These are principles that I expect to see upheld in any comprehensive health care reform bill that's sent to my desk -- I mentioned it to the groups that were here today. It's reform that is an imperative for America's economic future, and reform that is a pillar of the new foundation we seek to build for our economy; reform that we can, must, and will achieve by the end of this year.

"Ultimately, the debate about reducing costs -- and the larger debate about health care reform itself -- is not just about numbers; it's not just about forms or systems; it's about our own lives and the lives of our loved ones. And I understand that. As I've mentioned before during the course of the campaign, my mother passed away from ovarian cancer a little over a decade ago. And in the last weeks of her life, when she was coming to grips with her own mortality and showing extraordinary courage just to get through each day, she was spending too much time worrying about whether her health insurance would cover her bills. So I know what it's like to see a loved one who is suffering, but also having to deal with a broken health care system. I know that pain is shared by millions of Americans all across this country.

"And that's why I was committed to health care reform as a presidential candidate; that's why health care reform is a key priority to this presidency; that's why I will not rest until the dream of health care reform is finally achieved in the United States of America."


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A first shot, of sorts, is being fired in the Obama-era battle for health care reform. Organizing for America, President Obama's political arm, is blasting out an email to its massive list of suppor...
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- jpinsatx I'm a Fan of jpinsatx 3 fans permalink
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Hmmm... Health Care for All Americans is Simple!

1) Merge Medicare with Medicaide into one single "Income Based" system for elderly and poor citizens.

2) Require insurance companies to provide the same basic coverage for all Non-Medica­re/Medicai­de citizens, regardless of health status, at affordable rates.

3) Allow insurance companies to profit by offering additional benefits and options to those who qualify and are willing to pay the difference.

As for Funding...

1) Changing from an "Emergency Treatment" to a "Preventive Care" system will save local communities billions, maybe even trillions of taxpayer dollars!

2) Small business will be able to compete globally and hire additional taxpaying employees!

3) Wealthy seniors will pay their fair share!

4) The tremendous burden on future generations will be greatly reduced!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 05/19/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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Our current system is just fine.
If it wasnt Canadians would flock here by the droves to get healthcare.
Socialized Healthcare doesnt work.
Hospitals need to be able to turn away illegals, that dont and wont pay!
Thats what started the problems of Hospitals going broke in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/13/2009

"Our current system is just fine." Actually, it's just crap. We're behind every other developed nation in the area of healthcare.

"If it wasnt Canadians would flock here by the droves to get healthcare." They don't, and if our system is so good, why do rich Americans flock to INDIA to get their healthcare?

"Socialized Healthcare doesnt work." Oh noes, he said the "S" word! Run in fear everyone. Pitiful. You don't even know what the word means.

"Hospitals need to be able to turn away illegals, that dont and wont pay!" They don't and won't pay, because they don't have any money, because your party pays them nothing for all the hard work they do.

"Thats what started the problems of Hospitals going broke in the first place." No, the fact that you're treating something that should be a basic human right as a luxury is the reason hospitals are going broke in the first place. It's also the reason Americans are going broke. Why do you hate Americans so much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/14/2009
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 43 fans permalink

Don't let insistence an a perfect health care system ruin our chances of making improvements that can lead toward that perfect system. Right now the biggest obstacles to health care reform are the power of the health insurance and health care industries, funded by their huge profits, and the fear of change (or fear of government) that many Americans have. Of course, the industries use their big bucks to exploit people's fears, convincing people that reforms, which would actually reduce costs and improve care, would have the opposite effect.

Improving health care delivery without going all the way to single-payer in one leap may sound foolish. We know the "middle men" are stealing us blind, so why waste any time taking them out of the picture? Did I mention that they're very powerful and capable of exploiting the fears and anti-government sentiments of many Americans? We have no basis for assuming we could win a knock-down drag-out with this powerful "coalition."

We do, however, have an excellent opportunity to reduce the industries' power and their ability to confuse people about this issue. If we can "(1) reduce costs, (2) guarantee choice, and (3) ensure all Americans have quality, affordable health care," it would be much more difficult to convince people that the government is out to take all their money, take away their choices, and doom them to substandard care. This is a contest we can and must win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 05/13/2009
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The question you should be asking is, do you want ANY reform at all, or do you want effective health care reform? Because right now, effective health care reform is not going to be achieved, because health care is not even being discussed. Right now, the only thing people are discussing is the cost of care and who pays for it. And, frankly, those issues need to be considered AFTER we discuss how to prevent the inevitable increase in suffering and death once people get not-so-high quality health care. This shouldn't even be considered health care, this should be considered insurance reform, in which case, let's add auto and life insurance to health insurance. If people want actual effective improvements in care, then maybe, just maybe, somebody actually ought to start talking about medicine. Because when you talk about health care to a terminally ill person, generally we expect to hear SOMETHING about medicine before we agree to pay for something that will make us suffer more. And Lord knows I don't want to have ANY part in placing more people in jeopardy by giving them the same crappy substandard care I've received that has led me to be terminally ill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 05/13/2009
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 43 fans permalink

I'm sorry the system we have now has hurt you so badly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 05/13/2009
- orianna I'm a Fan of orianna 8 fans permalink

The enemy has infiltrated the DNC sentate.....success for the middle man will be hard fought again... too many pay offs going on with DNC politiicans from corporate interests... now insurance companies are acting like they can be a universal health care system... that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one!

Watch out reformers... the evil GOP backers are backing the Democratic senate (as much as can be bought up) and votes that were once united are now breaking off in favor of the corporate interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/13/2009
- LucieLee I'm a Fan of LucieLee 25 fans permalink
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This is bogus!! The part in the e-mail about the lobbyists~ "For those determined to oppose reform, the President's announcement means lobbyists are already scrambling across D.C. For the rest of us, it means there's no time to lose. As we speak, Congress is negotiating the details for health care reform, so the first step is showing where the American people stand." The lobbyists aren't scrambling, they are already seated at the table....AHIP, AMA and PHARMA....and no doubt will be writing the legislation for Congress as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 05/13/2009
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Before anyone supports single payer or any insurance plan, ask yourself, is this really going to improve the quality of our health care, or is this only going to give more people access to a dangerous or even deadly health care system that may in fact do more harm than good, when we do nothing more than change the reason people are suffering and dying, from a question of lack of care to a question of quality of care we receive, and which more people would receive, thus lowering our position in the world from...what is it people say, 37th, to lord only knows how low as death rates increase, lifespan decreases and our general health remains poor or gets worse from the inclusion of millions of people onto medicine and technology that is often more harmful than helpful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 05/13/2009

I have no idea what your comment means. I am 29 years old. I have paid for medical coverage since I was 19 and never had to use it. Now I need it and have no coverage. So you can't scare me into opposing universal single payer health insurance. I'm scared of the for profit system we have now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 05/13/2009
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I just hope with every fiber of my being that, when you do get the care you need, that it doesn't end up causing more problems than the one you're currently dealing with. and THAT is what I am talking about. The fact that many if not most of the medicines and treatments we receive as care for one ailment cause other ailments. Medicines that cause a wide range of symptoms from liver and kidney damage (which eventually does damage to the heart), to antidepressants that cause suicidal tendencies some of which people act on....there are all kinds of issues with the medicine and technology we receive that often do more to harm a person than to help them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 05/13/2009
- RepugsOut08 I'm a Fan of RepugsOut08 104 fans permalink

Oh, please. Spare us the fear tactics. France has the number one health care system in the world, and we're around 28th. You don't get to number one with supposed unhappy doctors and poorly cared for patients. That's how you get to 28th and higher. I'm surprised we're doing that well.
It's also amazing to me, that critics of single payer always try to bring up quality and the threat of a "deadly" health care system, when our broken system kills thousands of people and has an infant mortality rate that would shame a third world country.
Then, after all the physical pain inflicted, you're handed the bill which may send you to bankruptcy court. Your fear tactics worked in the past, but they won't anymore.
Everyone who hasn't been shafted themselves by our current system, knows someone who is being shafted. Single payer countries have a higher life expectancy than we do. Probably by not being stressed out over fears of losing their homes over a medical condition. That and better care.
Take your worn out fear mongering somewhere else. It's time to put people's health over insurance company profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 05/13/2009
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So tell me, Mr Smart guy what, exactly, precisely, detailed word for word does insurance have to do with a medicine that, when taken for 30 years causes liver and kidney damage, which in turn damages the heart? What exactly precisely does taking an antidepressant that causes suicidal tendencies have to do with your ability or inability to get that medicine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/13/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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The current system is death by spreadsheet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 05/13/2009
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And the new system, whatever form it takes will be death by negligent homocide when more people are given affordable access to medications that are killing us. Unless something is done to improve the quality of our medication, treatments and procedures, the only thing that will happen is that more people will be given access to medications that cause kidney, liver and heart damage, or if you're lucky, you'll only be put on an antidepressant that will cause suicidal tendencies, which many people will act upon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 05/13/2009
- pewty I'm a Fan of pewty 9 fans permalink

"deadly healthcare system"...­..complete dol.t and a dunder.head

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 05/13/2009
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deadly health care system=a system where a person enters with one ailment sometimes at birth when the ailment is not preventable (such as a congenital birth defect like Spina Bifida that I have) , is treated, and it is discovered later that the treatment the person received for said ailment (say a urinary tract infection, common with people with SB who are born with reduced kidney function) has caused other ailments, (such as a weakened heart valve) which in turn cause more drugs to be necessary, which cause further ailments, (such as liver and further kidney damage) and so on and so forth until 30 years later when the person is told he is (I am) terminally ill, in large part due to the medications i was told I depended on for my very life

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/13/2009

Yeah, how's our current system going?

1) There is an endemic conflict of interest in a for profit system of health care. The reason for the corporation is not charity--it to make a profit. How does it do that? By denying service, and increasing price.

2) Okay, so we keep a for profit system. If you believe in the free market and that competition will ensure quality and accessibility, a public option provides the competition necessary to keep these firms honest (i.e. a REAL free market), and from increasing rates in a way that only monopolistic firms can.

They are not going to regulate themselves--their offer to do so is a bunch of BS. And now the Obama administration is trying to sell this BS. I worked hard on the Obama campaign, and now I get the feeling I'm being triangulated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/13/2009
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Even if you remove the insurance and profit motive from the equation and leave the government to provide care, without actually raising the levels of care (which isnt going to be done because no one is talking about it but me) then we are still left with a situation where the same number of people are suffering and dying, only for different reasons, ie lack of quality of care rather than lack of access to care, which has been resolved when everyone has access

Until something is done to raise the quality of care nothing will change. And I will fight to my last dying breath to see that my neice and nephew are not faced with the same poor quality of care that I have received for 36 years, regardless of how much ANYONE has to pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 05/13/2009
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 35 fans permalink

I got the email and I want to support Obama on Health Care, but a cut of 1.5% of the growth of any industry that generally raises their costs as much as 3-4 times the actual rate of inflation is wholly inadequate, especially since we already pay $8,000 each for mediocre health care. This negotiation reinforces and mandates price increases of health care during a depression and a time when housing prices and savings are cut in half.

Next, the organizing for health care group wants us to sign a nebulous statement that includes cheaper health care, but ignores that this will be paid for almost 100% by the people using the health care by raising taxes as opposed to attacking the well-known 30% waste in health care dollars today.

Taking the waste out of health care and holding the line on costs can save One Trillion dollars every year today and every year without raising the costs to the consumer one cent. This should be the goal as opposed to the giveaway a nebulous one Trillion in savings because we will not increased the costs as fast as before.

This is financial and public relations trickery of the worst kind. Deplorable at best. Evil and criminal at worst. What are we doing? Framing the issue around totally disingenuous terms? Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 05/13/2009

You are absolutely right. Obama is showing his true colors. All they are trying to do is mantain profit margins for the medical industrial complex while claiming reform. I hope I'm wrong about Obama. We will see within the next couple of years. How about the Senator from Vermont for President. Bernie Sanders, Real Change we can believe in!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/13/2009
- pewty I'm a Fan of pewty 9 fans permalink

How about , this is only one aspect of reform? How about ,you have no real ideas about the details in Obamas mind? How about, lets wait and see? This nightmare we call healthcare wasnt created overnight, like the economy and so many other problems hes dealing with. Given that we can pretty much count on the Rethug.z to do,nothing but oppose and offer no help at all, except tax cuts Id say hes doing the best he can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/13/2009
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Although I am generally put off by links to other Websites in the HuffPost, the article linked below in a comment by "Bill" is one of the best pieces on alternate solution to our national embarassment, the dismal and sordid state of health care in our country. As a patient, as a veteran, and as a practicing emergency physician, I recommend it as a worthwhile read.
A high quality, successful model for single payer universal health care exists in our country, in our government, and right in front of us. This model could be expanded to universal coverage expeditiously and just as explained in the article.
Please take the time to read this informative article.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 05/13/2009
- RepugsOut08 I'm a Fan of RepugsOut08 104 fans permalink

Thank you for providing this fascinating article. We can have single payer health care. Other countries have been providing it for decades, and this article proves we already know how to do it ourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 AM on 05/13/2009
- alice09 I'm a Fan of alice09 18 fans permalink

President Obama,
Please stand up and demand single payer representatives have a seat at the table. Doctors and nurses were arrested today over this exclusion. Please make sure there is a public option and don't throw us to the health insurance wolves pretending they will behave themselves. If you don't do these two things, I will consider it a huge violation of the promises of your campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 05/13/2009
- Theo67 I'm a Fan of Theo67 8 fans permalink

Alice09 - please stand up and demand single payer. President Obama started out as a community organizer. He told all of us that "we are the ones we've been waiting for". Instead of issuing threats, become active and demand the change you want. If you succeed in building a significant majority, then you might just see the change you want. Don't expect one man to do it all - the sayinig is "we, the people". Be counted! The president has asked for our help to make the changes we want to see - and that's not going to happen if we sit at our computers simply issuing threats about campaign promises. What about the promises we made to stay engaged, to be involved, and to support our democratically elected administration. Be part of the solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/13/2009
- RepugsOut08 I'm a Fan of RepugsOut08 104 fans permalink

Wow! Can't put it any better than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 05/13/2009
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So what do you do when NO ONE is listening, and everyone is asking the wrong question? What can be done when people only want to talk about access and affordability, and I see that access and affordability will only make things worse when people are given access to something that is total crap? How do you convince people that their ideas of how to solve the problem won't solve the problem at all, only change the reasons behind the problems? If you can answer me that, then you're much better at psychology and sociology (ie mob mentality control) than i am. Because I've been trying to tell people for months that access and affordability is not the magic fix-it pill when you are giving people access and affordability to a health care system that is totally warped even when you have access

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 05/13/2009
- alice09 I'm a Fan of alice09 18 fans permalink

A family member is on their way to DC to lobby with physicians as we speak.
Please don't make assumptions about how active or not someone is without knowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/13/2009
- Billl I'm a Fan of Billl 9 fans permalink

A dual system that offered free, government, owned and operated, VA style civilian National Health Care System, funded by a national sales tax, no insurance, no co pays, and free period.

Or the alternate choice would be for individuals or businesses to choose private systems for care.

Costs of health care paid for by government programs, (Medicare-Medicaid etc.) could be reduced, to a fraction of their current expenditures, with better outcomes, if the services for these programs were delivered from a utilitarian VA style National Health Care System.

Businesses choosing national health care would free themselves from all financial burdens or any involvement in any way for the health services their employees receive.

This article, (The Best Care Anywhere by Phillip Longman)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html

documents how the VA was transformed by Dr. Kizer, into a system that is producing the highest quality health care in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 05/13/2009

I got the e-mail. It bugs me that the Obama team is asking me to pledge support and I don't know what it is they are backing. All I know is, they won't hear any talk about single payer, and that's wrong. At least take a good look at it! It's just downright offensive when Baucus states that single payer won't work here. Won't work for the big insurance companies, maybe! Agreeing to reduce future costs isn't helping the people who are uninsured today, nor did I hear anything about relaxing their underwriting, pre-existing condition exclusions, and other factors that affect a lot of Americans' access to health insurance. Single payer national plan is the way to go. By the way, what happened to the national plan option touted by Pres. Obama in the debates?

The whole thing just reeks of lobbyists having their way. Again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 05/13/2009
- RepugsOut08 I'm a Fan of RepugsOut08 104 fans permalink

As posted earlier, sign the petition and demand single payer in the comments. Obama needs to hear from us. To know we're behind reform, and that single payer must be on the table.
But don't stop there. Email, snail mail, and call your representatives and the White House. No one's gonna hand this to us. We have to demand it and fight for it.
If we let the lobbyists be the only voice, then they WILL have their way. Again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 05/13/2009

I contacted my Senator and the White House via their online contacts. Will contact Congressmen as well, and follow up in writing. But I'm not signing to support a vague statement like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 05/13/2009
- Theo67 I'm a Fan of Theo67 8 fans permalink

Yes, and they'll continue to have their way if you are so quick to throw up your arms and admit defeat. If single payer is that important to you, then make your wishes known. You're not powerless. You have a voice. One of many. You may not prevail, it may go a different way. But sitting and talking about reeking lobbyists feeds right into their hands. The lobbies have been around a lot longer than President Obama. But the American people have been around a lot longer. There's strength in numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 05/13/2009
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Right on! Single Payer should at the very least be discussed.
There should be no PROFIT in health care.
To Hell with the insurance companies, they have been making huge bucks over peoples misery.
Let's get what Europe has

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 05/13/2009
- truthglow I'm a Fan of truthglow 10 fans permalink

After being an ardent supporter and contributer, and after continuing to be hounded for even more contributions AFTER the election, I "unsubscribed" myself from the "list." I am glad that I did, because I would/could never sign such a statement as vague as presently written. I want a REAL healthcare plan, with a "Single-Payer" option, not a wimpy "promise" by a SPINELESS president, SO unlike the "fantasy" candidate I thought I was supporting last year!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 05/13/2009
- Theo67 I'm a Fan of Theo67 8 fans permalink

You sound like there are a million people lined up in the wings just waiting to take over from the president, take on the lobbyists and make your dreams come true. It pains me to hear people call this president SPINELESS when he is far from spineless. The spineless thing is to "unsubscribe" from the battle. This issue can't be that important to you if you're so quick to give up the fight. That's what I call spineless. If you really care about your issue, then stand up and fight for it. Don't expect to be spoonfed. The only person who lived in a fantasy is you, if you think someone can take on the battles that this administration are battling, and single handedly overhaul the health care system while also battling the likes of Cheney and the rest of the republican party. This administration has enough negative people throwing knives from the sidelines. If you are planning to be one of them, rather than being part of the solution, then it's probably best that you unsubscribe. I am not convinced that single payer can be achieved in one fell swoop, especially in the middle of a recession. But I believe that every step in the right direction towards single payer - or something that will work for America - is worth taking, rather than standing still with my hands in my pockets. This fight is too important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 05/13/2009
- RepugsOut08 I'm a Fan of RepugsOut08 104 fans permalink

Well said! I wonder how much closer these folks believe they'd be to single payer, if they hadn't supported Obama?
Obama consistantly said that he could not bring change alone. That we'd have to follow him to DC, and help him. Anyone calling him spineless on a message board, shows that they never heard a word he said, and that they have no clue how real change takes place.
Black folks during the civil rights movement didn't "elect" MLK to lead them, and then sit at home bitchin' that he hadn't delivered them from injustice. They marched WITH him, and supported him. THAT'S how real change takes place.
The wealthy benefactors of our current health care system aren't going to just give up their goldmine because Obama got elected president, people. Me, you, all of us are going to have to join him and fight for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 05/13/2009
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I heard some Republican on a Sunday morning show (sorry, can't remember who) say that only 15% of Americans want single payer health care. He also said that 80% of Americans are happy with their health insurance and don't want it to change. This is more fuzzy math. If 50 million Americans are not covered. (47 million at the time of the election plus all those who have lost their health care when they lost their jobs since the election - probably a conservative estimate) that is around 17% of the country uninsured. According to these calculations, that means all those who have health insurance don't want a single payer option. I find that hard to believe since I am one who has health insurance that is pricing itself out of my range by increasing premiums every year, and I want a single payer option. It seems as though most of the people I talk to or read in these blogs also want a single payer option. So how do they figure that only 15% of Americans want a single payer plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/13/2009
- ncmom54 I'm a Fan of ncmom54 56 fans permalink
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the 80% was based on a CNN poll? stop and think about it, is it even realistic to believe that 80% of Americans even have employer based health coverage.. and like it? nah, no way!

Economists,Pharma & industry lobbists should not be the primary architects of Health Care REFORM!

http://www.pnhp.org
Physicians for a National Health Program

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/13/2009
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Sounds like fuzzy math to me. The Health Insurance industry said it would cut costs at the rate of 1.5% per year. My Health Insurance company raised it's premiums as much as 12% this year for some of it's plans. If they cut costs 1.5% and raise premiums 12% how does that save me $2500?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 05/13/2009

I got an email from the political arm and I politely responded in the following manner...

Don't talk to me about mobilizing until I get a clear picture of what President Obama is going to do about torture. Some people may rally but-- I will determine how much I support the administration over the next 4 years based upon how they handle the QUESTION OF THE CENTURY - "Does the United States condone or whitewash torture?"

After that question is answered then I will be free to either support or reject President Obama's political organization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 05/13/2009
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Excuse me - where were you the last 8 years while this torture was in progress? The United States is made up of 300 million people. if you want an answer about what the United States will condone and what it won't, then just switch on your television and see who is getting airtime. Look for the outrage from the population - can't see anything visible? Then there's your answer. Most people are probably trying to hold on to their homes, their jobs, and their sanity - and that's what I want the president focusing on. I leave the matter of America's opinion on torture to the American people, who seem to be standing by idly while Dick appears on every program, undaunted, making this country less safe - and no public outcry. I leave the American people to speak up for their credibility after sitting silently for the last eight years, voting in Bush for a second term, and allowing this last corrupt cowboy administration to ride roughshod over what was once a great example for the world. If you want to get an answer to your question, ask your fellow Americans whether they would be willing to bombard the media with requests for them to stop entertaining a war criminal on their shows. Ask the American people to raise their voices and finally declare an end to the insanity. And in case you're wondering - I'm Canadian. But I do have hope for this country - the world

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 05/13/2009
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