Graham Cites Debunked News Story As Proof Torture Works

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First Posted: 05-13-09 12:56 PM   |   Updated: 05-13-09 01:10 PM

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Hmm, not a great moment. While directing hostile questioning at a witness during the Senate torture hearing, GOP Senator Lindsey Graham cited an infamous ABC News report from 2007 that said a terror suspect broke under minimal waterboarding, and suggested it undercut the claim that torture didn't work.

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Hmm, not a great moment. While directing hostile questioning at a witness during the Senate torture hearing, GOP Senator Lindsey Graham cited an infamous ABC News report from 2007 that said a terror s...
Hmm, not a great moment. While directing hostile questioning at a witness during the Senate torture hearing, GOP Senator Lindsey Graham cited an infamous ABC News report from 2007 that said a terror s...
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Graham's argument: The administration was wrong, but let's not do anything about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 05/14/2009
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Lindsey = puts the queen in Drama Queen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 05/13/2009
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And a real investigation gets closer and closer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 05/13/2009

The it.chch is back!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/13/2009
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Sound familiar...? [Repubs citing something when there's evidence to the contrary]

(a) 2003 SOTU
GWB's sixteen infamous words, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein
recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa".

...referring to a document originally obtained from Italian intelligence.

Despite:
-- Joseph Wilson warning the CIA that the document was a forgery (debunked months BEFORE).
-- The CIA / State Department concluding the Niger reports were almost certainly NOT TRUE and told the WH.
-- IAEA chief Dr el-Baradei; shown the Niger documents and concluded they were forgeries.

The "claim" did NOT belong in the SOTU speech...!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/08/wbr.iraq.claims/
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/karon/article/0,9565,463779,00.html

(b) ECONOMY

-- “We don’t believe we’re going to have a recession though.” [Cheney, 1/30/08]
-- “I think the experts will tell you we’re not in a recession.” [GWB, 2/10/08]
-- “First of all, we’re not in a recession.” [GWB, 4/22/08]
-- “I don’t think we are” in a recession. [Keith Hennesy, 6/3/08]
-- “I think we have avoided a recession.” [WH Budget Director Jim Nussle, 7/31/08]

WH CONTINUALLY INSISTED That ‘We’re NOT In A Recession’
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/white-house-recession-nber/

Despite:
The NBER stating that the U.S. HAS BEEN in a recession since December 2007.

http://recession.org/history/early-2000s-recession
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/dec/11/business/fi-gdp11

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/13/2009
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And the most infamous quote from dubya on the recession.."People ought to know how to balance their check books.. hehehehe.."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 05/14/2009
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'Merika does not torture..now watch this drive."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 05/14/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 76 fans permalink

Lindsay Come on out and tell the truth !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/13/2009

Lindsay Graham should be procuted for impersernation of a JAG lawer. He is not even fit to be a congressman, let alone a former JAG officer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 05/13/2009

So he lied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/13/2009

Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay. You're a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 05/13/2009
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Drama Queen!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 05/13/2009
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Abu Zubaydah wasn't waterboarded 80 times. It was less than 10 sessions. 80 is the number of times water was poured, even for a few seconds. The interrogators were required to record every time water was poured. The procedure was tightly controlled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 05/13/2009
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T0rture is t0rture, against international and constitutional law. Lindsey is now a c0-c0nspirator, right along with his ter0rist buddy D.I.C.K.head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/13/2009
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Less than 10 sessions? That still isn't 35 seconds. Or are you also counting the number of seconds per session?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 05/14/2009
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Keep spinning, but no one is buying your attempt to change the facts by parsing them within a hair's breadth. It doesn't change the fact that torture was committed and torture is illegal, immoral and unreliable. It is a coward's tool and those who attempt to justify the use of torture are ignorant cowards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 05/14/2009

Good try, honey, but sorry. You're pwned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 05/14/2009
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Do you have a source for that "information" or is that just the rumor you're trying to start?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/15/2009
- Nyla785 I'm a Fan of Nyla785 9 fans permalink

THe Republicans are starting to thrash around wildly to try to prevent this investigation into Bush admin torture policies. Even Sean Hannity is beginning to sound hysterical. I think they see the writing on the wall. And the 24/7 media slam of Pelosi just looks like a blackmailing game to try to prevent the hammer from faling on Bush and Cheney .
We all know the right wing media games though. We have to do what's necessary to get our good name in the world back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/13/2009
- kamenwati I'm a Fan of kamenwati 3 fans permalink

Little Miss Lindsey loves him some torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 05/13/2009
- tbonehead I'm a Fan of tbonehead 15 fans permalink

if Iran had decided to torture the young lady accused of spying, what moral ground would the US stand on to rebutt the practice; we prosecute people for torturing dogs . . .don't we? Mr. graham these practices have not stood the test of time because they work, rather because of the degradation of what we call the "civilized instinct of human beings." We have proven to be not as good as animals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 05/13/2009
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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Hey, my scotty was a gentleman and he was an animal ... more respect to animals please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 05/13/2009
- nylibgrrl I'm a Fan of nylibgrrl 21 fans permalink
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He showed plenty of respect for animals. Reread the post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/13/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 192 fans permalink
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He's an Air Force JAG Officer and knows that torture is against the law, Federal Law...!

If you don't want to pay alimony killing your wife works, but alas that too, is against the law..!

"We elect idiots..."

Tom Clancy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/13/2009
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