Graham: CIA Gave Me False Information About Interrogation Briefings

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First Posted: 05-14-09 04:41 PM   |   Updated: 06- 8-09 04:58 PM

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In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in the dark about the use of waterboarding, and called the agency's records on these briefings "suspect."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, the former Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman said that approximately a month ago, the CIA provided him with false information about how many times and when he was briefed on enhanced interrogations.

"When this issue started to resurface I called the appropriate people in the agency and said I would like to know the dates from your records that briefings were held," Graham recalled. "And they contacted me and gave me four dates -- two in April '02 and two in September '02. Now, one of the things I do, and for which I have taken some flack, is keep a spiral notebook of what I do throughout the day. And so I went through my records and through a combination of my daily schedule, which I keep, and my notebooks, I confirmed and the CIA agreed that my notes were accurate; that three of those four dates there had been no briefing. There was only one day that I had been briefed, which was September the 27th of 2002."

As for the one briefing he did attend, the Florida Democrat said that he had "no recollection that issues such as waterboarding were discussed." He was not, per the sensitive nature of the matters discussed, allowed to take notes at the time. But he did highlight what he considered to be pretty strong proof that the controversial technique was not discussed.

"What struck me...was the fact that in that briefing, there were also two staff members," he said. "As you know, the general rule is that the executive is to brief the full committees of the House and Senate Intelligence committees about any ongoing or proposed action. The exception to that is what is called "covert action," where the president...only briefs the Gang of Eight, which is the four congressional leaders and the four intelligence committee leaders. Those sessions are generally conducted at an executive site, primarily at the White House itself. And they are conducted with just the authorized personnel, not with any staff or any other member of the committee.... Which leads me to conclude that this was not considered by the CIA to be a Gang of Eight briefing. Otherwise they would not have had staff in the room. And that leads me to then believe that they didn't brief us on any of the sensitive programs such as the waterboarding or other forms of excessive interrogation."

The remarks made by Graham bolster the comments offered by Pelosi on Thursday. The Speaker told reporters that during her briefing session in the fall of 2002 she was not just kept in the dark about the issue of waterboarding, she was assured that it had not been used.

"Yes, I am saying that the CIA was misleading the Congress," she said.

However, records and testimony do show that high-ranking aides were present during a February 2003 briefing when waterboarding was discussed by the CIA with Reps. Porter Goss and Jane Harman.

Graham declined to speculate as to what took place during Pelosi's briefings, noting that the House and Senate had two entirely different sessions. But he did point out that, at the time, "the whole credibility of the intelligence committee, particularly the CIA, was pretty much in question" -- giving credence to Pelosi's claims that she was given faulty information.

"The irony," said Graham, "is that the whole series of events in late September of '02 were concurrent with the CIA's release of the first classified version of the National Intelligence Estimate, which was one of the key factors that led me to vote against the war in Iraq because I thought that their case was so weak. And they were making to the public these very bold statements about how we were in extreme danger if we didn't move quickly to eradicate Saddam Hussein. The whole, 'a smoking gun may appear in the form of a mushroom cloud' kind of argument."


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In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in...
In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in...
 
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- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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We were right last week when we told you that the CIA reports were inaccurate.

And justice will be served.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/15/2009
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If I had to choose between sides considering their credibility and history, CIA and Pelosi, I would choose Pelosi, for now until this issue is better vented,

Pelosi is taking these accusations by the horn and even proposing a truth commission to get to the bottom of who really is complicit, this does not sound like a person that has something to hide, or afraid of what might come out.

I am certain the CIA does not want anything to do with this kind of inquiry!

If the CIA is deceiving our government, then who are they working for?

I believe we may have a rogue agency on our hands!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/15/2009
- gypsy508 I'm a Fan of gypsy508 9 fans permalink

It is just a show. If what Pelosi says is true, they will go after Cheney and the torturers. If not, the Dems will just keep it burning to keep the Republicans on the defense and satisfy their consituents but in the end will do nothing because they can't. She was briefed and she is lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 05/15/2009
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 89 fans permalink
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The CIA has toppled govts. and as_sas_si_nated people for decades, but they wouldn't lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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eyedoc thinks senators are not part of the government.

I'm sure that Cheeney would agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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And you think a Senator's personal diary is the equivalent of a Top Secret document.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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Oops, I didn't use the word that between the words think and a. Will points be deducted off my test?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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I make no such assertion.

You are the one that says that what a senator says means nothing in the face of the CIA needing to cover itself in the question of torture.

BushCo ordered and conducted torture.

That is what is important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/15/2009
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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The 'Top Secret' document, as you term it, is full of 'remembrances' by CIA agents. We'll see whose remembrances these were, and when they were 'officially' added.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/15/2009

Bob Graham had one job as senator, to uphold the Constitution of the U.S. and to represent the people of Florida. Why is he spending so much time covering his A_ _?
What is his spiral nonsense concerning the CIA? Just another politician diverting something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 05/15/2009
- cigi I'm a Fan of cigi 36 fans permalink

This guy's documentation makes the National Archives look puney. It was his habit to do so and now it may shed some light on all the finger-pointing a'goin' on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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eyedocoo7

Graham could have went out last week, paid cash for a new notebook, and written a whole new version of events in it.

Posted 12:46 AM on 05/15/2009

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"could have went"?

Perhaps we could limit ourselves to English?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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Wow, you have proven me completely wrong by pointing out a grammatical error. Will you be taking off points for splitting infinitives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Graham is not credible, but the CIA is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 05/15/2009
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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Your IQ seems up to par. It's the critical thinking skills versus the belief system that need a little work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 05/15/2009
- moongal6 I'm a Fan of moongal6 74 fans permalink
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Split infinitives should be praised in a sentence, unless all you speak is Latin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 05/15/2009
- livesimply I'm a Fan of livesimply 25 fans permalink
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It is not a small grammatical error. It is an error made only by people that never wrote a decent paper or was raised in an educationally deprived environment. I'm sorry about that, but your credibility is blown entirely; if you ever think you had any. In any case, you are no match for keven.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/15/2009
- livesimply I'm a Fan of livesimply 25 fans permalink
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Excuse me... people that were, not was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 05/15/2009
- swo68 I'm a Fan of swo68 14 fans permalink

Expect to see more "stories" like this in the near future as things get hotter for Pelosi the liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/15/2009
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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Unsubstantiated ignorant blather.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 05/15/2009
- swo68 I'm a Fan of swo68 14 fans permalink

Ya, don't believe your lying eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 AM on 05/15/2009
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 110 fans permalink

We know the war was based on lies.
We know the Bush Admin. tortured prisoners.
We know they are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents
We know they wrecked the world's economy
Now what are we going to do about it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 05/15/2009

Nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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We have an idi ot that insists that Lincoln tortured confederate traitors.

So what if we grant his point? So what?

Does one wrong justify another?

And Lincoln was a Republican, yes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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Since you have granted my point, do you think that we should tear down the Lincoln Memorial and take Abe off the $5 bill? Should we be honoring a President that approved of torture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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I have not granted your point. Your reading skills are poorer than your composition skills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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How would Lincoln's use of torture in any way absolve BushCo? Assuming that it ever happened, which I do not.

I hit about 90 mph on the freeway today. So you should tell the highway patrolman about that next time you get a ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 05/15/2009
- noahark I'm a Fan of noahark 3 fans permalink

Sexist attack on the first female speaker--let's hold the men who brought us WMD info for the Iraq war accountable first

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/15/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 68 fans permalink
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I cringe everytime I see someone pull the gender card because an individual (who happens to be a woman) takes some heat... not doing us any favors, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 05/15/2009
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Well who manipulated the records? Follow the records.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/15/2009
- Levittown I'm a Fan of Levittown 6 fans permalink

General Franks told Senator Graham that Bush and Cheney completely blind sided him with the
withdrawing of troops from Afganistan to invade Iraq.. He resigned first chance he had. He was not in favor of the invasion. i believe Senator Graham knows a lot more then he will tell. Maybe someday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 05/15/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 45 fans permalink
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I got to meet General Franks myself when I was on deployment in '02. He'll always have my respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 05/15/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 68 fans permalink
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General Franks was the CENTCOM commander for the invasi0n of Iraq in March 2003. I have never heard the claim that he retired out of political protest (as you imply). Furthermore, some of Frank's ineptitudes helped to catalyze the insurgency. He has been roundly criticized since his retirement, even among officers serving under him (there are several good accounts; Cobra II and Fiasco being two of the top of my head). Bottom-line: he is poorly thought of among defense circles.

Regardless, Senator Graham's comment is highly dubious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 05/15/2009
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Bottom line-the marching orders came from the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 05/15/2009
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 118 fans permalink

The CIA=deep Bush family history. DO NOT TRUST THEM TO TELL THE TRUTH - EVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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So the CIA has official US Government documents and Bob Graham has a spiral notebook.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 05/14/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Bob Graham was not a part of the US government?

Last I heard, senators were part of the US government. Am I wrong about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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So Bob Graham's personal diaries are government documents?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Gee. The "official" story. Good enough for me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 05/15/2009
- wisecrack I'm a Fan of wisecrack 10 fans permalink

LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 05/15/2009
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 20 fans permalink

I spiral notebook is often very solid evidence if kept reasonably intact. Would be very hard to modify without being obvious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 05/15/2009
- eyedocoo7 I'm a Fan of eyedocoo7 8 fans permalink
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And how would you know that he didn't buy a new one last week and started writing in it to cover his ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 05/15/2009

Let me get this straight: Pelosi, as ranking member then, is supposed to have been told about the torture. What about the Repug Intelligence Committee hairman? He certainly would have known then, right? Repugs trying to have it both ways!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/14/2009
- 305Rider I'm a Fan of 305Rider 45 fans permalink
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Like always.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 05/15/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Pelosi knew about torture?

So BushCo did torture!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 05/15/2009
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 89 fans permalink
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Start the prosecutions!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 05/15/2009
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 18 fans permalink

I'd give the benefit of a doubt, until other evidence is presented, to Pelosi. This is the same politicized CIA that said WMD's in Iraq were a "slam dunk." They have a history of both lying and being wrong. Using the word Intelligence for this group is really an oxymoron.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/14/2009

Let me get this straight: it was a Repug President and VP who came up with the idea of torture, and had their lawyers say it was okay. It was a Repug Congress and Senate who rubber stamped everything Bush/Cheney did for six years. Then later it's the Repugs blaming Pelosi for knowing something she claims she didn't, something the Repugs rubber-stamped!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/14/2009
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