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Census Bureau Nominee Rules Out Use Of Sampling for 2010 Census

HOPE YEN   05/15/09 12:24 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's pick to lead the Census Bureau on Friday ruled out the use of statistical sampling in the 2010 head count, seeking to allay GOP concerns that he might be swayed to put politics over science.

Robert M. Groves, a veteran survey researcher from the University of Michigan, also testified during his confirmation hearing that he remains worried about fixing a persistent undercount of hard-to-reach populations, typically minorities living in dense areas who tend to vote for Democrats.

He told the Senate Homeland Security committee that the success of the 2010 census will hinge on an aggressive outreach campaign, but did not say whether he would push for a government halt to immigration raids _ as the Census Bureau successfully did in 2000.

"This is an area of great concern," Groves said, suggesting a media campaign that might utilize government leaders and even Obama to encourage people to respond. "Groups cannot believe the participation in the census will harm them."

Groves, 60, faces a relatively smooth confirmation due partly to Democrats' strong majority in the Senate.

But that hasn't stopped House Republicans, who have been vocal in expressing concern about Groves. As a former census associate director, Groves pushed for sampling in the 1990s to make up for an undercount of millions of minorities but was later overruled by the Republican Commerce secretary, who called the move "political tampering."

On Friday, Groves said he would not pursue statistical adjustment next year because it is now legally barred for the use of apportioning House seats.

Groves also said adjustments won't be used in 2010 to redraw congressional boundaries, because there is simply no time to prepare for it.

"I am pursuing this post because I believe strongly that this country needs an objective, nonpartisan, professional Census Bureau," he said. "If the information is believed to be slanted by partisan influence, the credibility of the statistics is destroyed."

Republicans are also suspicious after the White House indicated earlier this year that it would assert control over the census to address minority concerns over Obama's initial choice of Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., as Commerce secretary. Gregg later withdrew, partly citing disagreements over the census, and the White House backed off its plan.

Under questioning Friday, Groves made clear that he would not tolerate political interference either from congressional Republicans or the White House and will step down from his post if necessary.

"Are you prepared to resign if you are asked to act in a way ... to satisfy a political concern?" asked Maine Sen. Susan Collins, the top Republican on the committee.

"I promise that after I resign I would be active in stopping the abuse in partisanship," Groves responded.

Groves said he planned to work closely with Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and a team of experts so he can make the "necessary tactical and quick management decisions" within the broad plans already in place for the census count beginning next April.

He did not commit on the question of restricting use of sampling in surveys after 2010.

The Supreme Court ruled in 1999 that the wording of the federal law barred broad uses of statistical sampling to apportion House seats. Justices, however, indicated that adjustments could be made to the population count when redrawing congressional boundaries and distributing federal money.

Census officials have already acknowledged that tens of millions of residents in dense urban areas _ about 14 percent of the U.S. population _ are at high risk of being missed because of language problems and an economic crisis that has displaced homeowners.

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On the Net:

Census Bureau: http://www.census.gov

Senate Homeland Security committee: http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/

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06:13 AM on 05/18/2009
What's wrong with counting every person possible? That employs census takers as well as gives us more reliable data.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
05:39 AM on 05/18/2009
Obama has an overwhelming majority, but still seems to ready to appease to Republican hardline rhetoric. They get their way whether in the majority or the minority!
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01:37 AM on 05/18/2009
Regarding the claims of undercounting--how are we all so sure of the existence and magnitude of the undercounting? It's like arguments about the numbers and costs of illegal immigrants. No one is allowed to count them, but both sides of the immigration debate make claims all the time.
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01:33 AM on 05/18/2009
What exactly is the relationship between immigration enforcement and census taking? The story mentions the two together but does not expound. Do we need to ensure that illegal immigrants are counted? If so, are we identifying them as illegal immigrants in the count?
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12:58 AM on 05/17/2009
I am fed up to my eyeballs with this toadying to Republican bullying.
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luckynewman13
Just your average, outraged twenty-something.
08:35 PM on 05/15/2009
this is bad
08:23 PM on 05/15/2009
Not to use sampling during a Depression is criminally negligent.

In this economy, as more people become homeless, they'll become harder to count and they won't get representation in Congress.

The fix is in. Obama's not the man we had hoped he was.
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ssfahrer
10:11 PM on 05/15/2009
Actually, to use PHONY data is 'criminally negligent'.... And ultimately, sampling is exactly that. Negligence means to NEGLECT to do something-- which in this case is to actually FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE THERE ARE IN THE USA that are willing to stand up and be counted....

If we try (by the canvassing methods now in use) and we can't find these allegedly 'uncounted people', it becomes THEIR PROBLEM (the 'uncounted', that is). If the 'uncounted' don't make themselves heard one way or the other, why should they be represented??????

Representation involves RESPONSIBILITY on part of the GOVERNED as well as those doing the governing. Where is the responsibility of the GOVERNED to DEMAND to be counted (assuming they want to be counted)? If they don't want to be counted for whatever reason, why should they be FORCED to be counted? And why should a certain amount be arbitrarily added to account for those who DON'T want to be counted????

Finally, the economic status of this nation is IRRELEVANT to any discussion of the census (since it only happens once in 10 years-- it's not like this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR).... Just stand up for yourself and be counted-- and let everyone else stand up for THEMSELVES. This is the American Way!
12:04 AM on 05/16/2009
I agree sampling shouldnt be used. It is the law of the land that it is not.

I also recognize that there is a real problem in undercounting. And it is not just among the poor. Having moved 3 times in the last year, I'm pretty sure the census bureau has absolutely no idea where to find me if I do not return a questionnaire. What needs to happen is a broad effort to ensure public awareness of the census. Make it so that noone can say, "oh, I didnt know there was a census going on". Employ people to go door to door in suspected "underrepresented" neighborhoods. There are solutions without breaking the law.
03:48 AM on 05/16/2009
Aren't you the charmer.

Whether people want or choose to be counted, or prefer to opt out, their presence in the US does have an effect on the rest of the people around them and the environment that we all share. No matter how self-sufficient a Ron Paul-type libertarian thinks he is (that's what's behind your argument, isn't it?), you suck up the ground water and wipe your bottom with pillow-soft TP just like the rest of us. The purpose of a census, ultimately, is to have facts and figures available on hand, to prepare for whatever need crops up.

Every statistical expert, and I mean every one, says that sampling is much more accurate and billions of dollars cheaper.

We're talking about millions of people who won't be counted, won't get representation in Congress and funding for programs they vitally need, because they are either homeless, between abodes (as in Hurricane Katrina or 9/11/01), don't speak English and aren't inclined to cooperate with 'revenuers' who come a'knockin' at their door, or what not. Think about the coming days, whether this Depression deepens and widens, whether climate change forces mass migration, anticipating the problems which are going to occur (and their numbers) lessens the upheaval for all.

I not only think it's criminally negligent, I think it's *gross* criminal negligence not to sample.
04:04 PM on 05/15/2009
Thank god he won't sanction a statistical tactic that ALL SEVEN LIVING EX-CENSUS DIRECTORS penned a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed against.
04:00 PM on 05/15/2009
Repugs don’t want no darn fancy count’n next year, them Repugs like the census to count only the peoples who look like themselves and Mr. Rush.

Bless Mr. Rush because he is the greaterest that we have every had led our peoples.
03:58 PM on 05/15/2009
Looks like Keith Olberman's older brother. He can't be all that bad.
03:57 PM on 05/15/2009
Yes let's only count the rich, the white, or the radical right wing christians - or the white hood party will through a fit and block any progress. When do we get Senator Franken so we can get the progress we voted for?
12:05 AM on 05/16/2009
Last time I checked, they dont just send questionnaires to the CEOs. They make an honest effort (although it could probably be better) to get everyone. The way our government is throwing around money these days, it shouldnt be too hard to get a few more people to go door to door to make sure they get everyone.
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SPQR1775
03:45 PM on 05/15/2009
The GOP is the ones who used sampling to under count every minority groups, now they are busy trying to have babies, too late AMERICA is already a minority majority nation and growing fast, 2010, TEXAS swings DEMOCRATS, NYC, NC, FL, NM, CA, CO increased in population growth in the millions. YES, THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!
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TheThinkerCometh
03:52 PM on 05/15/2009
I hope this guy is progressive enough to fix those undecounting issues.
03:38 PM on 05/15/2009
The 1990 census grossly undercounted the US population, but the 2000 census did a much better job.
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TheThinkerCometh
03:49 PM on 05/15/2009
Well, hopefully the 2010 one will do a much better job by more accurately counting the undercounted.
04:00 PM on 05/15/2009
Looks like the Democrats got back just in time.

1980 - Dem rules
1990 - GOP rules
2000 - Dem rules
2010 - Dem rules
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shockmagog
05:03 PM on 05/16/2009
Those are statistics we can all agree on.
03:35 PM on 05/15/2009
"seeking to allay GOP concerns that he might be swayed to put politics over science."

WTF? Since when are they respecters of science over politics?
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11:02 AM on 05/16/2009
When it suits them. Just like everything else about the ReThugs.