David Gregory Yawns At Torture News (VIDEO)

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Posted: 05-15-09 03:56 PM

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Do I believe that Meet The Press has improved under David Gregory? No, I do not. And as it turns out, in growing numbers, America is agreeing with me. As my colleague Danny Shea pointed out yesterday, "NBC's Meet the Press suffered its lowest ratings since David Gregory became moderator last week, dipping below the 3 million viewer mark for the first time since August 19, 2007.

I can't speak to why America is souring on David Gregory, but I can tell you why I am! Gregory demonstrates all of the reportorial tenacity of a dilettante badminton player under heavy sedation. The game -- oh, how it fascinates him! Look at the shuttlecock bob through the air, borne on the wheezing breezes of his hot air emanations and the gentle paddling of his racket! Back and forth and back and forth, if Gregory had his druthers, it would just go on forever, the rich panoply of process story unfolding endlessly until the end of days. In a world like that, it is a terrible thing, to have...you know -- standards.

Gregory made an appearance on Morning Joe Friday with this disease in full flower. He gently massaged the unfolding disclosures on torture into a passive reflection on Washington's eternal political sussurations:

GREGORY: I think -- this is another example of why the administration doesn't want to go down this road. Doesn't want to get this debate. I spoke to somebody yesterday that said the problem is that nobody comes away cleanly from this debate. Not a Republican and not a Democrat. And now the House Speaker is ensnared in these questions about why she didn't push back harder and when she actually knew about the techniques. So here we are in a position where Pelosi is blaming the CIA, accusing the CIA, misleading her. and you have other Republicans who are in these briefings saying wait a minute. We were all told what was going on. We all knew what was going on. Now calls for the release of the briefing in full. And this is not where the White House wants to be. This is not the debate that it wants to have. And it just goes back to a more fundamental point which is that the more you debate this, the more you realize the politics of the time are incredibly difficult. And as many people who oppose these techniques now have to acknowledge that in 2002, there were not Democrats who were willing to stand up to the White House and say no. We are not going down this road. This is wrong for America. That debate came later. A lot of the beliefs came later because of the time nobody really wanted to get in the middle or stand in the way of techniques that might prevent another terror attack.

I just don't know where to begin with this thicket of supine, cloying, dribble. David Gregory is talking about torture. He's talking about criminal behavior. He's talking about moral failings. And by his own admission, "nobody comes out cleanly." By his own admission, everyone was "told what was going on." Everyone "knew what was going on." You'd think that such a target-rich environment would lead a journalist to scramble all available resources to pin down all the wrongdoing, get to the bottom of everything, ensure that the whole matter comes out into the light. You will not be able to watch David Gregory in the above clip and feel like he is even remotely inspired to follow the story. All you get is shrugging, stooped, passivity.

Gregory is fascinated by Pelosi, and how shiny she is! On the matter of her being briefed on torture, Gregory reports something widely known: "There is no evidence she was pushing back even internally." But that's only part of the story! Pelosi is not the onion, she's the peel! There is no evidence that ANY of the people briefed on these techniques pushed back, even internally. One would imagine that watching Nancy Pelosi sidestep her way through an ungainly press conference might inspire someone to track down the rest of those who were briefed and stayed silent.

Gregory reports, "Other people who were [at these briefings], Republicans who were there, are saying it is clear as day. What they were asking for and what they were already doing." Does Gregory not realize that these sources have openly confessed to the very thing that the press is trying to hound out of Nancy Pelosi?

Gregory continues: "So that's the reality of the -- of the public record that we have so far. Now, maybe if we go down this road, maybe we will learn more and get a fuller accounting of what was contained in that briefing." YES, MAYBE A FULLER ACCOUNTING WILL FALL OUT OF THE SKY AND HIT US ON THE HEAD. And when it does, David Gregory will fearlessly document just how shiny its collision with the earth looked! Until then, we will have to dream of a day that someone invents REPORTERS, who actively seek out full accountings!

It gets even more ridiculous. Carlos Watson asks David Gregory, "What in your mind would be one or several tipping points that would move this towards a full investigation?" To my mind, the correct answer is, "Well, I am a dedicated, professional, well-remunerated reporter, and I have the obligation to bring this story in myself, and not wait around, passively hoping for a tipping point to spur me into action." But Gregory's answer is this:

"How about nothing?"

That's right! That's what he said. He added some important clarification: "Look, if the White House has the kind of political capital that it appears to have, they are going to make it very clear that they do not want this to be the discussion. they have a lot of other things they want to talk about." So there you have it. David Gregory and his colleagues are just paralyzed in the face of the White House's awesome political capital, which is the only thing for which they seem to have any respect. Gregory has been hanging around with too many political consultants. He's forgotten that he isn't one of them.

"The more you debate this," Gregory says, "The more you realize the politics of the time are incredibly difficult."

Well, boo hoo, you goddamned crybaby.

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Do I believe that Meet The Press has improved under David Gregory? No, I do not. And as it turns out, in growing numbers, America is agreeing with me. As my colleague Danny Shea pointed out yesterd...
Do I believe that Meet The Press has improved under David Gregory? No, I do not. And as it turns out, in growing numbers, America is agreeing with me. As my colleague Danny Shea pointed out yesterd...
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I want to hear more about how when they were briefed, this was classified information and if they spoke out they would have been subject to TREASON. So why isn't there more focus on that, the Bush Administration made this so top secret that if anyone dare protest, REALLY protest, not complain or write some damn letter for HER own political cover, they would be charged and sent to jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 05/17/2009
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I heard this exchange on that insipid show .I was half asleep and I thought I was hearing things, I guess I wasn't and that's very sad!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/17/2009
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Gregory has sucked forever. Lawrence O' Donnell please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/17/2009

true that Lawrence O'Donnell is one of the FEW with any balls at the terrible network MSNBC. They are a tabloid station ALMOST as bad as FOX

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/17/2009
- blkbtrfly1 I'm a Fan of blkbtrfly1 11 fans permalink
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Love Keith Olberman. Like Rachel Maddow. Still, I have to agree with you. It's pretty bad. They need to get rid of the bobble head who's married to the old financial guy -- oh, Andrea Mitchell. Get rid of Shuster. Get rid of Joe and that fake @$$ Mika. Replace them all with Lawrence O'donnell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 05/17/2009
- Girl28 I'm a Fan of Girl28 12 fans permalink

I love Lawrence O'Donnell. He should have his own show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 05/18/2009
- alvdh1 I'm a Fan of alvdh1 24 fans permalink

I have tried several times to watch MTP since Gregory took over for the late Russert. It is as bad a trying to watch the scence from A Clockwork Orange whre the guy is forced to watch violence with his eyes pryed open. Fortunately, I have a remote control to ease the pain. Gregory is about as deep as shallow bird bath. Tim must be rolling over in his grave knowing what an amateur his replacement is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/17/2009
- Cogs I'm a Fan of Cogs 26 fans permalink

David Gregory is likely on a short leash. NBC News is not going to let MTP become insignificant. Rachel Maddow would rock the house!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/17/2009
- rascalcat I'm a Fan of rascalcat 10 fans permalink

Great catch, Jason.

Is this bizzarro-world or what? People who claim to be trained and educated, investigative journalists recommeding we "look the other way", "nothing to see here", "we already know all we need to know".

Sweet Jesus, I miss Dan Rather!

By the way, two words on Gregory and MTP: "Peter Principle" (look it up if you're under 40)
My prediction for him is that he is about one season away from "Dancing With the Stars (C-list)"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/17/2009

...and only one or two seasons removed from "Dancing with the Rove"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/17/2009
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From madkane.com: The “We Did Nothing Wrong, & Nancy Should Have Stopped Us” Song
Republicans are truly gifted at changing the subject, and the media falls for it every time. Take CIA torture, for instance. Is the media focusing on who in the Bush administration broke the law and ordered torture? Of course not! Instead, the topic’s morphed into whether Nancy Pelosi is lying when she says the CIA misled Congress about torture.

Following Republican logic is never an easy task. But from what I can gather, here’s the Republican position: Bush’s CIA did nothing wrong, & Pelosi could have and should have stopped them.

In honor of the Republicans tortured position on torture, I’ve written them a theme song to the tune of Stephen Foster’s Camptown Races:

The CIA did nothing wrong.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
Pelosi knew and went along.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Torture is always right.
Torture can make our day.
And Nancy’s nothing but a lying nag.
She could have got in the way.

Interrogation must be tough.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
Pelosi knew we got too rough.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Never did break no laws.
Torture? Who, us? No way!
Pelosi’s nothing but a lying hag.
Nancy would lead you astray.

The CIA protects us all.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
It’s time Pelosi took the fall.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Torture was never done.
Torture is lots of fun.
And Nancy’s nothing but a lying nag.
Nancy Pelosi should pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 05/17/2009
- 111 I'm a Fan of 111 34 fans permalink

thanks for the laugh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/18/2009
- Girl28 I'm a Fan of Girl28 12 fans permalink

Lol. Love it. Very clever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 05/18/2009
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David Gregory his not a very smart person. To compound this he is also boring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/17/2009
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Thats a person? I thought that was one of the old Howdy Doodie puppets. I can sometimes see the little strings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 05/17/2009
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Hello Gregory, in 2002 the republicans were in control, and I dispute your word Senator Feingold was against us and the republican's tried to make a spectacle out of him because he was TOTALLY against it. Check it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 05/17/2009
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 266 fans permalink

Mindful of the march of time and the inevitable mortality of David Gergen, Gregory is clearly positioning himself to be the next go-to guy for circular, 'bipartisan' blather which never arrives at its destination.

There's always a pressing need for one of those.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 05/17/2009
- pros54 I'm a Fan of pros54 6 fans permalink

It seems as if Gregory will one want one day to become a political consultant and talks in a way to show people his political consulting abilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/17/2009
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Jason,
Great article! I wanted to write Gregory a note after I saw him on the show Friday - then I figured that no matter what I wrote regarding his obtuse attitude would be wasted - I don't think Gregory is a deep enough thinker, nor does he have the journalistic integrity required to even understand any critic on his pathetic attitude on "the people's RIGHT to know." - As Ben Franklin would have said.

No wonder Gregory's ratings are dropping - he is lazy & does not care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 05/17/2009
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David Gregory - he of the "overly" thick hair, is the poster boy for the "Corporate News Shill", a "wrestling ref" that colludes with the political "actors"!

Tim Russert to be honest was the same, but he was just better at pretending that the matches between the red team & the blue team were real.

Like fake wrestling, fake news reporting requires a suspension of disbelief. In today's Obama world of Hope & Change, that is getting a lot harder to pull off than during the 8 years of the dumbed down world of Alfred "W" Newman, we are now demanding REALITY, we have had more than enough FAKERY!

Today the Jon Stewart Daily Show, a "fake" news show is giving us some of the most "real" news & Meet The Press a "real" news show with Gregory is giving us so much "fake" news!

There is a new "North Star", it points to the TRUTH, TRUTH that will now separate the real from the fake, it's about time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 05/17/2009

Perfectly said exoevolution and Linkins!
I agree with every point you made exo. Russert was overrated. On the other hand, Gregory has done an excellent job elevating the memory of Russert's work (in comparison,bleh). Just as W has caused Americans to actually remember daddy Bush and Clinton fondly.

The U.S. would never have become quite so thoroughly corrupt and failing if network and cable news had any integrity and belief in citizen's right/need to know. Of course they believe their only job is to bring eyeballs to commercials, not informed brains to the voting booths.

Jon Steward is doing some good tidbits, and I've even learned a couple of things from Rachel Maddow's cable show. Miracles both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/17/2009
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"Tim Russert to be honest was the same, but he was just better at pretending that the matches between the red team & the blue team were real."

And I thought I was the only person who doesn't genuflect before Russert's memory. Well said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/17/2009
- Cogs I'm a Fan of Cogs 26 fans permalink

Tim Russert seemed to be somewhat of an enabler. He knew the reality and morality of his guests and on occasion allowed to them to present themselves to be someone they were not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 05/19/2009

John King on "the State of the Union" is worse. I wonder what his numbers are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/17/2009
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I've found lots to be disappointed about in MSNBC of late especially the Morning Joe show where Mika giggles and blushes at some of Joe's remarks rather than correcting him. Mika's father had no problem setting Joe right but yet Mika "goes with the flow". I think Mika's there to collect a paycheck and cares very little about the issues of the day.

I love Rachel and Keith's two shows and would strongly suggest either of them for hosting "Meet The Press". Rachel is very sharp and misses nothing and Keith is not shy and would hold peoples feet to the flame if they wanted to play the little games such as Cheney being interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer what a laugh that was I thought Wolf was going to start crying.

But still in all I'd choose to watch MSNBC over CNN anyday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 05/17/2009

I think Rachel and Keith could do even better than what they are. No segments showing video tape of stupid bears, or celebrities. They should CUT ALL CELEBRITY COVERAGE FROM NEWS PROGRAMS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/17/2009
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