Criticism Of CIA Has Bipartisan Roots

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First Posted: 05-18-09 02:28 PM   |   Updated: 06-18-09 05:12 AM

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Sensing blood, Republican officials have turned the friction between Nancy Pelosi and the Central Intelligence Agency into significant political hay. This weekend alone, several prominent GOPers took to the airwaves to insist that the Speaker had, in the words of RNC Chairman Michael Steele, "stepped in it big time" by insisting that she had not been briefed on the use of waterboarding in the fall of 2002.

The key message is standard Republican fare: while Pelosi is attacking the CIA, the GOP is defending those who work to keep our nation safe.

"I think it's a tragedy that we are seeing this massive attack on our intelligence community," Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri said in an interview on NBC's Today show.

"Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime," said House Minority Leader John Boehner on CNN's State of the Union. "And if the speaker is accusing the CIA and other intelligence officials of lying or misleading the Congress, then she should come forward with evidence and turn that over to the Justice Department so they can be prosecuted. And if that's not the case, I think she ought to apologize to our intelligence professionals around the world."

One would be forgiven for assuming that the CIA, in the eyes of Republicans, was sacrosanct. The truth is: it hasn't always been this way.

Senate Intelligence Chairman Pat Roberts told the Washington Post in October 2003 that "the executive was ill-served by the intelligence community," adding: "I worry about the credibility of the intelligence community." In another interview, Roberts accused the CIA of "egregious intelligence failure[s]," saying that the agency would have to earn back the trust of the political community. "Not having your actions second-guessed is something that is earned," he said.

Roberts was not alone. As pointed out by the site FireDogLake, some of the voices ribbing Pelosi now were publicly airing their doubts of the intelligence community's credibility just a few years ago. That includes Boehner, who, on December 9, 2007, told CNN that he did not have confidence that the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, which described the threat over the country's nuclear ambitions to be overblown.

"Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today," he replied. And as picked up by Glen Thrush at Politico, the Ohio Republican also was critical of the CIA for the intelligence gaffes it suffered before the invasion of Iraq.

Nine month earlier, on NBC's Meet the Press Boehner said: "It's clear to all of us, Democrats and Republicans, that we have flawed intelligence. The CIA have bad intelligence, the Pentagon had bad intelligence and, for that matter, all of our allies around the world had the same bad intelligence."


Boehner spokesman Michael Steel shot back, saying, "There is a world of difference between asking questions about analysis of complex - and often contradictory - information, and flat-out accusing our nation's intelligence professionals of deliberately deceiving Congress. Don't equate reasoned debate with accusations of lying."

All of which is not to diminish the divide that presented itself between Pelosi and the CIA last week. But it is worthwhile noting that the agency has been a whipping post for Republicans in the past. Praise and support of it are not, after all, a litmus test of one's patriotism.

Editor's note: this piece originally identified CIA Director Leon Panetta has having been a member of the 9/11 Commission. He was actually a member of the Iraq Study Group. We regret the error.


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- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 261 fans permalink
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CNN's John King, apparently, has more spine than NBC's David Quaaludery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 05/19/2009
- Gatorray11 I'm a Fan of Gatorray11 15 fans permalink

During the Iran-Contra period Barry Goldwater called them liars. They had lied to him about the minning of the Nicaraguan harbors.

So these self righteous Republicans should not get so bent out of shape. They are only covering up for George II and Ticky Dickey II.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/18/2009

Boehner didn't say anything when Cheney, Liddy a,d the other Bush croonies, including himself outed CIA agent Valerie Plames, because she and her husband Wilson were telling them the truth. SADDAM had no WMD.No Boehner was in on this one. What a toasted, brown ,or maybe black hypocrit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 05/18/2009
- Gatorray11 I'm a Fan of Gatorray11 15 fans permalink

Republicans being hypocrites! What a shock? Stop the presses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 05/18/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 261 fans permalink
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I know, on all fronts! When they get all sanctimonious about defending the CIA's morale I'm all, heeeellllooooo! Plame? That NIE on the Iranian nuclear program, Boehner? I'm dismayed that many American people still don't readily recognize patent hypocrisy when it's right in front of them on their television sets. MSM, it's not that hard: 1) Pull up old video, 2) Play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 05/19/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1039 fans permalink
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo

On December 1, 2005, Yoo appeared in a debate in Chicago with University of Notre Dame professor Doug Cassel. During the debate Cassel asked Yoo, "If the president deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?", to which Yoo replied "No treaty." Cassel followed up with "Also no law by Congress -- that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo...", to which Yoo replied "I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that."

http://washingtonindependent.com/15946/mccain-camp-buses-in-4000-kids-for-ohio-rally

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 05/18/2009
- mortrefuge I'm a Fan of mortrefuge 11 fans permalink

Self righteous Kristian Republicans should know where they are going after this life. Myself I'd prefer to see prosecutions of them all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/18/2009
- whitehawk I'm a Fan of whitehawk 16 fans permalink

Truly funny comments for and against the CIA. Around the World it has seen the 'illegal', secretive, deceptive and criminal behavior from this agency, as close as the last administration and torture. The CIA has done many things in/to America, people would have a dropped jaw if heard.

Now the GOP is defending this agency with a record worse than Stalin and the KGB when this truly is to deflect the topic off of torture, abuse and criminal containment. Modern society does not need an agency that is so inefficient as it has been in past decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/18/2009
- Decipherer I'm a Fan of Decipherer 91 fans permalink

Where does the author get the idea that the GOP is turning "the friction between Nancy Pelosi and the Central Intelligence Agency into significant political hay"? What kind of a statement is tnat?

Have we stooped to such a low point that this sorry attempt to deflect serious attention away from the true allegations of all sorts of lawbreaking on the part of the previous admininstration is "significant political hay?"

What nonsense!

The GOP can try all they want to change the subject, but it will not fly, especially since the CIA was not too long ago a GOP punching bag at a time when they were also trying to deflect attention away from the lying and deception of Bush and Cheney.

I take strong exception to the "political hay" comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 05/18/2009
- lynettema I'm a Fan of lynettema 53 fans permalink

The key message is standard Republican fare: while Pelosi is attacking the CIA, the GOP is defending those who work to keep our nation safe."

Depends on which way the political winds are blowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/18/2009
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Is anyone really surprised? The only constant in Republicans' behavior is hypocrisy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 05/18/2009
- moongal6 I'm a Fan of moongal6 74 fans permalink
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I would say this endorsement is unbelievable, but what's the point.

The R's hadn't even stopped vocally BLAMING the CIA for the corrupt intelligence they supposedly gave President Booooosh that made us go to war in I r a q. The R's just kept saying, it's all the CIA's fault, they gave us bad information.
Now, all of a sudden they are the pillar of truth?
The R's really do keep telling the lie, hoping it becomes the truth.
It will not. Not anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 05/18/2009
- Arleen1 I'm a Fan of Arleen1 10 fans permalink

I agree. Where is Cheney this week? He just wanted to get enough blood in the water to start the sharks swirling. If this hoopla with Pelosi doesn't go anywhere, we will see him back in the limelight trying a different angle. He is doing everything he can to keep the light from shining on their blunders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 05/18/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 213 fans permalink
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The CIA gave the Bush administration credible evidence and two threat assessments about OBL and an imminent attack involving hijacked planes in April and again in August 01.

These were ignored, and no plans were put into effect to watch for known Al Qaeda operatives entering the US.

We all saw how successful that was!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 05/19/2009
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 142 fans permalink
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At this moment CIA is a convenient fig-leaf to hide Bush's crimes behind. Next week they'll be a convenient scape goat to blame Bush's crimes on. For Repubs politics is a simple matter because they aren't burdoned by scruples or by a particularly discerning base to catch their inconsistencies.

I advise you to watch Orrin Hatch when the next judicial nominee comes up for a hearing, to get an idea of how the RNC spin machine works. He's a grand master at twisting the facts to support his agenda. If political expediency dictates he will argue against motherhood, if political expediency dictates he will argue in favor of buggery. He'll express faux indignation at a democratic senator's inflection during a question then brush aside evidence off a criminal past with the wave of a hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 05/18/2009
- gconners I'm a Fan of gconners 19 fans permalink

Nancy Pelosi says she was mislead by a few (a handful, a couple) of CIA briefers. In what way does that become an attack on the intelligence community? Other than in the minds of Republican "grasp at ANYTHING and be outraged..­..OUTRAGED­!? And, of course, she "HATES AMERICA", RIGHT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 05/18/2009
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Fair Game was a great book!

I'm not sure why the corporate big wigs haven't made a series or movie about her Valerie Plame's life. What a fascinating and resilient woman. After reading her book I understand the true meaning of no honor amongst thieves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 05/18/2009
- digeridoo I'm a Fan of digeridoo 2 fans permalink

CIA = Republican hate team. It needs to be disbanded asap. All they do is spread discontent through the world...

If Obama won't disband it, the least he could do would be to make Jimmy Carter the intelligence chief - would then be using all those resources for good instead of hate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/18/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 213 fans permalink
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Kennedy was assassinated while he was working on plans to disband the CIA........ Hmmmmmm......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 05/19/2009
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The Repubs will say anything to detract from the truth. Obstructionist because they have no answers to any of the issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/18/2009
- kewe I'm a Fan of kewe 10 fans permalink
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the monumental hypocricy is the biggest laugh i've had in months. first the avoidance like the plague of investigations and then pelosi makes a dumb statement and they are clamoring for investigations. now this. disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/18/2009
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