Harry Reid: No Gitmo Detainees In U.S.

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ANDREW TAYLOR | May 19, 2009 09:04 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Tuesday, May 12, 2009 and reviewed by the U.S. military, a U.S. soldier holds onto a steel mesh door inside the Guantanamo detainee clinic, inside Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the administration delivers a satisfactory plan for what to do with the detainees there.

As the Senate took up Obama's request for money for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrats reversed course and said they would deny the request for $80 million for the Justice and Defense departments to relocate the 240 detainees at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They would also indefinitely bar the government from transferring of any of the facility's prisoners into the United States, though the ban could be relaxed in subsequent legislation.

A vote is expected Wednesday on an amendment by Sens. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, and James Inhofe, R-Okla., that would put the restrictions in the war-funding measure.

While allies such as No. 2 Senate Democrat Dick Durbin of Illinois cast the development as a delay of only a few months, other Democrats have made it plain they don't want any of Guantanamo's detainees sent to the United States to stand trial or serve prison sentences.

"We don't want them around," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

The Senate move matches steps taken by the House and threatens to paralyze the Obama administration's entire plan to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by January. In recent weeks, Attorney General Eric Holder had sought to reassure skeptical lawmakers, but Congress appears unconvinced and may force the detention facility to remain in operation.

It's also evidence that a weeks-long GOP effort against Obama's order to close the Guantanamo facility is paying off.

"Guantanamo is the perfect place for these terrorists," said Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

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Democrats and other Republicans _ including last year's GOP standardbearer, Sen. John McCain of Arizona _ say it's time to close the facility, where detainees can be held for years without being charged.

But McCain said in a floor speech Tuesday that Obama has bungled the Guantanamo issue.

"The lack of a comprehensive, well-thought-out plan led to a predictable political backlash on Guantanamo," McCain said. "Instead of unifying Americans behind a plan that keeps us safe and honors our values, the administration's course of action has unified the opposition to moving forward and move forward we must."

Even Durbin acknowledged that Obama had put Democrats in an awkward spot by sending up a request for funding to close the prison without an accompanying plan.

"The feeling was at this point we were defending the unknown. We were being asked to defend a plan that hasn't been announced," Durbin said. "And the administration said, 'Understood. Give us time to put together that plan and we'll come to you in the next appropriations bill.'"

White House Press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that lawmakers were correct to insist on details on closing the detention facility. He said the president on Thursday would outline "a hefty part" of his agenda for the often-criticized facility.

A key piece of the Justice Department's plan has been to send many detainees abroad, but if Congress were to bar detainees from being transported to the United States _ even for trial _ it would become much more difficult to persuade other countries to accept them.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Geoff Morrell said at least some funding needs to be passed now or else it would be "exceedingly difficult" to meet Obama's target date.

Durbin said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead _ only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees.

The Senate's move was cast as a tactical retreat until the administration develops a plan to close the facility. But the political anxiety felt by many Democrats runs deeper. Many simply don't want them sent to U.S. soil _ even if they're held in high-security prisons.

"I can't make it any more clear," Reid said. "We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States."

Reporters repeatedly pressed Reid on whether his opposition to "releasing" inmates meant he is also against transferring them to the U.S. to stand trial. He appeared to indicate that was the case, though spokesman Jim Manley said later that Reid may have misspoken.

House Democrats dropped funding to close Guantanamo when producing their version of the war funding bill, which easily passed last week.

The Guantanamo controversy has roiled Washington, with most Republicans adamantly opposed to closing the prison, which mostly holds enemy combatants captured in Afghanistan. Republicans say abuses at the facility are a thing of the past.

The Senate's massive war spending measure otherwise sticks closely to Obama's request. The House version effectively exceeds Obama's request by almost $12 billion, adding $2.2 billion for foreign aid and eight C-17 cargo planes despite Defense Secretary Robert Gates' desire to cease purchases of the aircraft as part of his effort to overhaul Pentagon procurement.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
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- sparky09 I'm a Fan of sparky09 11 fans permalink
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Also, shame on Dianne Fienstein for getting up to make that great speech on voting to close Gitmo, yet she STILL votes nay...Unbelievable! Cowards, all 90.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/21/2009
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harry reid is useless...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 05/21/2009

Can't wait to vote his ass out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/20/2009

I don't get all this congressional craziness about having the gitmo detainees "on our soil". If they're so dangerous why wouldn't we want them here where we can keep a really close eye on them? Actually, with all these so-called "terrorists" being held, and for so long, how many have been tried and proven guilty? But let's say they are, I'd still rather adhere to the old adage about "keeping friends close and enemies closer". I think the ones we really need to fear are those training in "cells" all over the world that we don't know about and therefore, can't be tracked. Unfortunately, sometimes hype and hysteria seem to take priority over common sense. And yes, in regards to the "not in my back yard" argument, I wouldn't mind having them moved to my state (VA) as long as it's a highly secured facility that I have no doubt it would be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 05/20/2009
- barra I'm a Fan of barra 10 fans permalink
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smooth operation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/20/2009
- jaschrod I'm a Fan of jaschrod 20 fans permalink

We do not have to release them into the U.S., give them their trial, if found innocent, send them back to Iraq. What the hell are 200 people going to do that many others cannot do? Oh, I forgot these are the best prisoners money could buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/20/2009
- BossBabe I'm a Fan of BossBabe 6 fans permalink

The town of Hardin, Montana has already volunteered to accept detainees into their prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 05/20/2009

Reid needs to go. He's far too weak to hold the position he does. It's a sad thing when the Speaker of the House is a woman and still has bigger balls than Harry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 05/20/2009

Will someone please kick this weak, impotent man out of the Majority position. What the hell is going on with the Democrats. I'm through with them, they are worse than battered wives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 05/20/2009
- Bystander I'm a Fan of Bystander 7 fans permalink

Let's get rid of all the Democrat Senators that agree with Reid! Oops...that would be most of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/20/2009
- DLZ I'm a Fan of DLZ 5 fans permalink

This is ridiculous. If it were another country holding our "combatents" without due process and without an end in sight, we would bomb the hell out of them. Moreover, we have some of the most violent criminals on earth housed safely in our prisons. So the only reason we do not want them on our soil is because we would have to afford them due process, access to family and potential access to the press. In other words, we do not want anyone to know the full extent of their treatment and/or possible innocence. Shame on us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 05/20/2009
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Reid was such a serious disappointment during the Bush years for being a wimp, NOW he's found his cojones -- NOW. What a major fool. Any campaign against him? Sign me up!! Let's get some damn Liberals in there. Liberals with fire and fortitude; no more wimps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/20/2009

What are you talking about? Reid has displayed all the intestinal fortitude of a eunuch in regards to the Republicans and members of his party.

Can't same I'm surprised that the same guy who killed Yucca Mountain is doing this crap, too.

As Jon Stewart said, "We're America! Imprisoning people is something we're really good at!"

Hell, toss these "scary terrorists" in a supermax and their fellow inmates will take care of the need for trials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/20/2009
- bobwalters I'm a Fan of bobwalters 21 fans permalink

Reid is a wuss...AND, he's using the BushCo designation for the detainees, NONE of whom have been ADJUDICATE­D/CONVICTE­D of being "terrorists" -- that's just what Bush/Cheney decided to call them! Which, along with their other flagrant lies, fails to make it so...Let's see the evidence. Oh, I forgot, that's classified information that would reveal the methods and sources -- i. e., the illegal conduct -- of our exalted spooks, the Constitutional Invalidation Association, and the military. This whole froo-fraw is an insult to everyone's intelligence to think that we, the people, are buying it. Of course, Reid, Inhofe, McConnell and others of their ilk believe none of us is capable of rational thought (after all, we elected THEM, didn't we) or examination of evidence, so naturally they resort to shoveling more BS our way. Actually, BS is an underestimate -- it's really DS -- dinosaur sh@t, 'cause it's a great BIG pile!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 05/20/2009

I am looking forward to contributing to the most viable Dem who challenges Reid in Nevada.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 05/20/2009
- Tena I'm a Fan of Tena 38 fans permalink
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Senator Reid, I want you to know I defended you to other outraged Democrats for going on 3 years now and you just managed to send me over to their side.

I'm liking the idea of No More Harry Reid in the US Senate!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 05/20/2009
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