Harry Reid: No Gitmo Detainees In U.S.

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ANDREW TAYLOR | May 19, 2009 09:04 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Tuesday, May 12, 2009 and reviewed by the U.S. military, a U.S. soldier holds onto a steel mesh door inside the Guantanamo detainee clinic, inside Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the administration delivers a satisfactory plan for what to do with the detainees there.

As the Senate took up Obama's request for money for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrats reversed course and said they would deny the request for $80 million for the Justice and Defense departments to relocate the 240 detainees at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They would also indefinitely bar the government from transferring of any of the facility's prisoners into the United States, though the ban could be relaxed in subsequent legislation.

A vote is expected Wednesday on an amendment by Sens. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, and James Inhofe, R-Okla., that would put the restrictions in the war-funding measure.

While allies such as No. 2 Senate Democrat Dick Durbin of Illinois cast the development as a delay of only a few months, other Democrats have made it plain they don't want any of Guantanamo's detainees sent to the United States to stand trial or serve prison sentences.

"We don't want them around," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

The Senate move matches steps taken by the House and threatens to paralyze the Obama administration's entire plan to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by January. In recent weeks, Attorney General Eric Holder had sought to reassure skeptical lawmakers, but Congress appears unconvinced and may force the detention facility to remain in operation.

It's also evidence that a weeks-long GOP effort against Obama's order to close the Guantanamo facility is paying off.

"Guantanamo is the perfect place for these terrorists," said Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

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Democrats and other Republicans _ including last year's GOP standardbearer, Sen. John McCain of Arizona _ say it's time to close the facility, where detainees can be held for years without being charged.

But McCain said in a floor speech Tuesday that Obama has bungled the Guantanamo issue.

"The lack of a comprehensive, well-thought-out plan led to a predictable political backlash on Guantanamo," McCain said. "Instead of unifying Americans behind a plan that keeps us safe and honors our values, the administration's course of action has unified the opposition to moving forward and move forward we must."

Even Durbin acknowledged that Obama had put Democrats in an awkward spot by sending up a request for funding to close the prison without an accompanying plan.

"The feeling was at this point we were defending the unknown. We were being asked to defend a plan that hasn't been announced," Durbin said. "And the administration said, 'Understood. Give us time to put together that plan and we'll come to you in the next appropriations bill.'"

White House Press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that lawmakers were correct to insist on details on closing the detention facility. He said the president on Thursday would outline "a hefty part" of his agenda for the often-criticized facility.

A key piece of the Justice Department's plan has been to send many detainees abroad, but if Congress were to bar detainees from being transported to the United States _ even for trial _ it would become much more difficult to persuade other countries to accept them.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Geoff Morrell said at least some funding needs to be passed now or else it would be "exceedingly difficult" to meet Obama's target date.

Durbin said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead _ only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees.

The Senate's move was cast as a tactical retreat until the administration develops a plan to close the facility. But the political anxiety felt by many Democrats runs deeper. Many simply don't want them sent to U.S. soil _ even if they're held in high-security prisons.

"I can't make it any more clear," Reid said. "We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States."

Reporters repeatedly pressed Reid on whether his opposition to "releasing" inmates meant he is also against transferring them to the U.S. to stand trial. He appeared to indicate that was the case, though spokesman Jim Manley said later that Reid may have misspoken.

House Democrats dropped funding to close Guantanamo when producing their version of the war funding bill, which easily passed last week.

The Guantanamo controversy has roiled Washington, with most Republicans adamantly opposed to closing the prison, which mostly holds enemy combatants captured in Afghanistan. Republicans say abuses at the facility are a thing of the past.

The Senate's massive war spending measure otherwise sticks closely to Obama's request. The House version effectively exceeds Obama's request by almost $12 billion, adding $2.2 billion for foreign aid and eight C-17 cargo planes despite Defense Secretary Robert Gates' desire to cease purchases of the aircraft as part of his effort to overhaul Pentagon procurement.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
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- rwext I'm a Fan of rwext 8 fans permalink

and about a month ago Dick Durbin mentioned Marion prison in Illinois

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 05/20/2009
- LucieLee I'm a Fan of LucieLee 34 fans permalink
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Harry Reid is a lunatic, and he is also up for reelection. Why wasn't he, as Democratic Majority leader showing this amount of force when Bush was in the White House. He came off as weak as could be then. As for not wanting "terrorists" relased in the US, that isn't going to happen. As for them being tried here, that has already happened, a.k.a. Ramsay Yousef who bombed the WTC in 1993, along with Sheik Rahmen, "the blind sheik", and lets not forget the Unabomber, and Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Robert Rudolph...­..they are or were considered "terrorists", domestic or foreign, but "terrorists" nonetheless. They had their trials, were convicted and now serving time in US prisons!!! I guess Reid just forgot~NOT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 05/20/2009

Nice opening rhetorical question. He wasn't "showing this amount of force" when facing Cheney because it took guts. Opposing a decent man who wants to rule by consensus is just showing his true colors. Reid is history. Obama is politically savvy enough to finesse Jon Huntsman; he'll be rid of Reid without breaking a sweat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/20/2009
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and no Harry Reid in the US Senate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/20/2009
- toochie I'm a Fan of toochie 4 fans permalink
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No Harry Reid in the US Senate is like a Happy Meal without the parsley.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 05/20/2009

I follow everything related to terrorism coming from the Middle East on OliveTreeNews. I find it the most reliable source on the net, mainly because it allows me to get an unbiased and pluralistic view on things. Highly recommend OliveTreeNews!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 05/20/2009
- Genep34 I'm a Fan of Genep34 52 fans permalink

Russ Feingold for Senate majority leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 05/20/2009
- Bystander I'm a Fan of Bystander 8 fans permalink

Be patient...­BO will flip on this issue too. "Change we can believe in!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 05/20/2009
- dashboard I'm a Fan of dashboard 9 fans permalink
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This is leadership? A wet noodle could put on a more forceful display of leadership than this weenie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 05/20/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 636 fans permalink
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It's easy despise Harry but who made him Majority leader ? His fellow dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 05/20/2009
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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I understand that there is a nice ranch in Crawford Texas that is now available. A prime spot to house "detainees".

Word is that the previous occupants moved to Dallas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 05/20/2009
- Maxiesid I'm a Fan of Maxiesid 31 fans permalink

Can we all agree now that all these pretend Democrats have got to go? Time to hand them their pink slips in the next election, and not allow them to take until after MAY of the next year to actually go away. Minnesota is STILL waiting to seat Franken, although I can't figure out how it is even possible. I know, Republicans don't have to follow the law, that is why we have people like Harry Reid in the senate, to make sure that the United States never holds people in the Republican party responsible for breaking the laws of this country. It is time for Harry and his cohorts to go, they still don't seem to understand that when the country voted for change, we all meant it. The majority of Americans are not afraid, and we don't appreciate that our elected officials are cowering wimps buying into the right wing's fear of anyone that looks different than they do. Harry was a coward when the Republicans were in office,he is still a coward even when he is part of majority .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 05/20/2009
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I second that. Dingy Harry has to go. He has been an absolute disgrace as majority leader. Bring in a republican i dont care. As long as Dingy Harry is ousted in 2010

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 05/20/2009
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The way the Bush Administration used the appropriations committees to bypass oversight by the intelligence committees in Congress (and get away with torture):

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/torture-appropriations/#more-4166

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 05/20/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 131 fans permalink
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Harry, I got this great idea. Lets move them all to that 10 billion dollar super secure complex in your state that we are not going to use, Yucca Mountain. I cant think of a better use for that dead end project.
and Id also like to suggest that the US take a look at what the french do with their nuke waste. According to the Feb 09 National Geographic mag. says that around 77% of power is from nuke plants. Now I am sure the French have some method of storing the spent fuel. Why dont we look at someone who is doing it now. Just to clarify, I am not a fan of Yucca mt. for nuke storage mainly due to the danger of transporting it from all over the country, and then knowing that they really havent figure when how to make it safe long term yet. But putting the gitmo gang there, I think thats a great idea. Heck, Vegas can even take odds on different interrogation results and odds on escapees recapture times. It would really boost the gambling industry in your state. But I think my favorite idea is to make Yucca Mountain the premier prostitution stop in the world. Kind of like the ultimate Bunny ranch, but have it in the rabbit hole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/20/2009
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the French pay cargo ships to dump it all off the Somali coast

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 05/20/2009
- massimo1 I'm a Fan of massimo1 6 fans permalink

The GOP is fomenting hysteria and the Democrats took the bait --- again. This is not the change I voted for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 05/20/2009
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Earlier I posted that it was odd timing for Dems to grow a pair.

They didn't have any courage during their sell out to the former administration; compromising our Constitution; our privacy; our t.r.o.o.p.­s., and our treasury to w@r p.r.o.f.i.­t.e.e.r.s.

I have thought about it a bit more now and figured it out--they're still weak. And to add insult to injury, it is for exactly the same reason--political expediency--you all just want to get re-elected and don't want the vacuous mouth heads to accuse you of "LETTING TERRORISTS INTO OUR COUNTRY!!"

Hmmmmmm...­our maximum security prisons are safe enough to house the criminals that rape us, murder us, and molest our children, but not safe enough to keep men who have been detained in Gitmo?

I thought we had the best justice system in the world? I thought that America is a shining beacon of moral competency. Why is it then that the prisons that keep us safe from the horrid home grown criminals cannot keep us safe from convicted terrorists?

I don't think it is that at all. I think it is the detainees that were NOT JUSTLY IMPRISONED that you folks are worried about. The ones that can't be convicted.

Yeah, the Dem leadership did not grow a pair; they’re the same ol’ same ol’—lacking the courage to do what is right—trust our justice system and support Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 05/20/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 131 fans permalink
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Yeah, what she said. I agree. Well written. Bravo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 05/20/2009
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It basically boils down to this: American's are pu**ies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 05/20/2009
- roudy I'm a Fan of roudy 31 fans permalink

What a shame that at a time when we have a strong democratic President, combined with senate and house majorities, we also have wimps for leaders of the democrats in congress. Who knows when we will have a better chance to clean up the mess created by the past administrations since Reagan, and it will be wasted because of lack of leadership in the house and senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 05/20/2009
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