Harry Reid: No Gitmo Detainees In U.S.

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ANDREW TAYLOR | May 19, 2009 09:04 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Tuesday, May 12, 2009 and reviewed by the U.S. military, a U.S. soldier holds onto a steel mesh door inside the Guantanamo detainee clinic, inside Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the administration delivers a satisfactory plan for what to do with the detainees there.

As the Senate took up Obama's request for money for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrats reversed course and said they would deny the request for $80 million for the Justice and Defense departments to relocate the 240 detainees at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They would also indefinitely bar the government from transferring of any of the facility's prisoners into the United States, though the ban could be relaxed in subsequent legislation.

A vote is expected Wednesday on an amendment by Sens. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, and James Inhofe, R-Okla., that would put the restrictions in the war-funding measure.

While allies such as No. 2 Senate Democrat Dick Durbin of Illinois cast the development as a delay of only a few months, other Democrats have made it plain they don't want any of Guantanamo's detainees sent to the United States to stand trial or serve prison sentences.

"We don't want them around," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

The Senate move matches steps taken by the House and threatens to paralyze the Obama administration's entire plan to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by January. In recent weeks, Attorney General Eric Holder had sought to reassure skeptical lawmakers, but Congress appears unconvinced and may force the detention facility to remain in operation.

It's also evidence that a weeks-long GOP effort against Obama's order to close the Guantanamo facility is paying off.

"Guantanamo is the perfect place for these terrorists," said Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

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Democrats and other Republicans _ including last year's GOP standardbearer, Sen. John McCain of Arizona _ say it's time to close the facility, where detainees can be held for years without being charged.

But McCain said in a floor speech Tuesday that Obama has bungled the Guantanamo issue.

"The lack of a comprehensive, well-thought-out plan led to a predictable political backlash on Guantanamo," McCain said. "Instead of unifying Americans behind a plan that keeps us safe and honors our values, the administration's course of action has unified the opposition to moving forward and move forward we must."

Even Durbin acknowledged that Obama had put Democrats in an awkward spot by sending up a request for funding to close the prison without an accompanying plan.

"The feeling was at this point we were defending the unknown. We were being asked to defend a plan that hasn't been announced," Durbin said. "And the administration said, 'Understood. Give us time to put together that plan and we'll come to you in the next appropriations bill.'"

White House Press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that lawmakers were correct to insist on details on closing the detention facility. He said the president on Thursday would outline "a hefty part" of his agenda for the often-criticized facility.

A key piece of the Justice Department's plan has been to send many detainees abroad, but if Congress were to bar detainees from being transported to the United States _ even for trial _ it would become much more difficult to persuade other countries to accept them.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Geoff Morrell said at least some funding needs to be passed now or else it would be "exceedingly difficult" to meet Obama's target date.

Durbin said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead _ only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees.

The Senate's move was cast as a tactical retreat until the administration develops a plan to close the facility. But the political anxiety felt by many Democrats runs deeper. Many simply don't want them sent to U.S. soil _ even if they're held in high-security prisons.

"I can't make it any more clear," Reid said. "We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States."

Reporters repeatedly pressed Reid on whether his opposition to "releasing" inmates meant he is also against transferring them to the U.S. to stand trial. He appeared to indicate that was the case, though spokesman Jim Manley said later that Reid may have misspoken.

House Democrats dropped funding to close Guantanamo when producing their version of the war funding bill, which easily passed last week.

The Guantanamo controversy has roiled Washington, with most Republicans adamantly opposed to closing the prison, which mostly holds enemy combatants captured in Afghanistan. Republicans say abuses at the facility are a thing of the past.

The Senate's massive war spending measure otherwise sticks closely to Obama's request. The House version effectively exceeds Obama's request by almost $12 billion, adding $2.2 billion for foreign aid and eight C-17 cargo planes despite Defense Secretary Robert Gates' desire to cease purchases of the aircraft as part of his effort to overhaul Pentagon procurement.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
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- jazzybo I'm a Fan of jazzybo 4 fans permalink
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No more Harry Reid in the senate.He is as useless as teats on a wild boar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/19/2009
- mama4obama I'm a Fan of mama4obama 33 fans permalink

Congress is just stupid. To think that a man with the kind of meticulous plan that led him to the White House would have no plan when it comes to the detainees is absurd. Democrats have no common sense and they fall in the GOP trap every time. This is essentially going along with the people that have given President Obama a no confidence vote since he before he was elected. This is the reason that Democrats have lost so often in the past and why it takes a royal screw up by the other side to get landslide victories for us. Democrats seem to forget that this President won in a LANDSLIDE! As Amy Poehler said as Hillary Clinton on SNL,Paraphrasing" I invite the Democratic Party to grow a pair and if not they can have mine"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/19/2009
- JohnIII I'm a Fan of JohnIII 9 fans permalink

Maybe you people should be pointing your fingers at Obama.
It was his idea to close the place. But he has no plan on how to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/19/2009
- mama4obama I'm a Fan of mama4obama 33 fans permalink

If anybody believes as I have said before that this President has no plan on how to deal with detainees, you're stupid and that includes people of my party. He is a meticulous planner . Harry Reid needs a spine transplant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/19/2009

Don't worry, President Obama know what He is doing. Don't be to happy, He is in THE office not evet 2 months and He has done more good in a such short time, then Republicans in over 30 years in power. As Bill Clinton said: just relax if You can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/19/2009

As The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy says; DON'T PANIC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/19/2009

I do believe Montana wants to take at least 100 detainees and put them in maximum security.

Sounds like a fine plan to me.

Oh, but that removes an opportunity to criticize Obama. Sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 05/19/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 661 fans permalink
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Does anyone like Harry ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/19/2009
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No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/19/2009
- Bob Soper I'm a Fan of Bob Soper 9 fans permalink
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Bush & Cheney love him... they had him by the bawls during the entire 110th Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/19/2009
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No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 05/19/2009
- Pookie2112 I'm a Fan of Pookie2112 3 fans permalink

I've had just about enough of the piss-poor leadership of Reid and Pelosi. They continue to bend over and take it right in the rear from the GOP. Further proof that Reid's days are numbered.

Our prisons are overflowing with TERRORISTS. Don't gangs terrorize neighborhoods? Don't rapists terrorize women? Doesn't a murderer terrorize his victim; a robber terrorizing his victims while robbing them? Don't pedophiles terrorize children? How do these violent terrorists differ from those in GITMO?

What's wrong with Leavenworth? Fort Knox? What's wrong with the U.S. prison system that the GOP is so PROUD of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/19/2009
- KarelS I'm a Fan of KarelS 11 fans permalink

How is trying and then incarcerating a so-called foreign terrorist any different than finding the Unabomber or Eric Rudolph guilty then jailing them?
I live in Canon City, Colorado where the aforementioned, insane criminals are spending the rest of their lives behind bars in one of our nine (!) Federal prisons.
As the warden of one of our prisons has stated when asked if our maximum security lock-ups could accommodate a convicted terrorist: "Bring 'em on."
I love you Reid. But please retire and maybe spend some time with Bush cutting brush in Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/19/2009
- RegLib I'm a Fan of RegLib 125 fans permalink
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The Spineless Wonder wouldn't stand up to Republicans, now he's repeating their talking points that closing Gitmo somehow means that "terrorists will be released on American streets."

I'm almost ready to cheer for whatever Republican runs against him -- even if it costs us a senate seat, at least he'll be gone and maybe the Dems can find someone with b**ls to replace him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/19/2009

So far Yours Republicans doing NOTHING but distracting themselfs and don't have no clue how to fix problems, they are responsible for. So, just dont get to hot over them, because they are only doing bad thinngs for America, for sure they don't know, what "good" means!!!. I gues You do not ither....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/19/2009
- RegLib I'm a Fan of RegLib 125 fans permalink
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Say what??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 05/20/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 16 fans permalink

Harry Reid, what in the *ell is the matter with you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/19/2009
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WHAT BS Harry!

We have people just as bad or far worse in our prisons! Cave into the BS Harry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/19/2009
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I really can't stomach either Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. They show no leadership whatsoever, just blatant careerists imho. As far as where the GITMO detainees go, when did we become such wimps? There's psychotic convicts in Leavenworth that make these so-called terrorists (none of them have ever been charged) look like Campfire Girls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/19/2009

I'm sorry, but where exactly is Guantanamo? Is it not techincally America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/19/2009
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The Democratic leadership are gutless without a lick of common sense. What to do with the detainees? Move then into federal prisons so they can have real due process hearings if htere is evidence against them or let them go if there is no real evidence against them (in which case they don't pose a danger to anyone). What's so hard about that decision?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/19/2009

The conundrum is that these people have been mistreated and possibly tortured. They are not going to be on our side. They are going to be adamantly against America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/19/2009
- fallout4U I'm a Fan of fallout4U 30 fans permalink
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Hairy Read is the voice of the Dems. You Libs better tow the line, your leader has spoken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/19/2009
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Obama is the voice of the dems. Your leader is rush limbaugh. Don't you worry, harry will be dealt with if he doesn't start toeing the line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/19/2009
- Bob Soper I'm a Fan of Bob Soper 9 fans permalink
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Reid is a closeted repug if there ever was one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 05/19/2009
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The same Dem Senate majority that did not refuse the (off budget!) funding of Cheney/Bush's war in Iraq.
It is imperative to vote into the House of Representatives as many progressives as possible next year. The only way to have an impact on the decisions of the Aristocrats and the buddy-system in the Senate is to elect a powerful House with a voice that cannot be ignored and that writes and sends them legislation with a clear message (not Pelosi-esque) and, if necessary, again and again.
To the immediate topic: You broke it, you buy it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/19/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 223 fans permalink
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Even if they are found guilty by a court, I wonder what kind of special powers they must have.
To be so scary that not even American prisons can hold them!

Hey Ried, I would be afraid of someone I bought for a bounty, tortured and held without charge or trial for seven years!

If he was not a terrorist before, he will probably be one now! Mission accomplished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/19/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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The flyingmonkeys will open their cells, and they'll escape on magic unicorns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 05/19/2009

You blame wrong people for torturing , Mr.Raid is responsible, but big ex-bosses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 05/19/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 223 fans permalink
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I am not blaming Reid for torture, the Bush administration bear all of the guilt for that, but the fact remains that we imprisoned and tortured these men, I do not believe they could be persuaded to not resent that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 05/20/2009
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