Harry Reid: No Gitmo Detainees In U.S.

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ANDREW TAYLOR | May 19, 2009 09:04 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Tuesday, May 12, 2009 and reviewed by the U.S. military, a U.S. soldier holds onto a steel mesh door inside the Guantanamo detainee clinic, inside Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the administration delivers a satisfactory plan for what to do with the detainees there.

As the Senate took up Obama's request for money for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrats reversed course and said they would deny the request for $80 million for the Justice and Defense departments to relocate the 240 detainees at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They would also indefinitely bar the government from transferring of any of the facility's prisoners into the United States, though the ban could be relaxed in subsequent legislation.

A vote is expected Wednesday on an amendment by Sens. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, and James Inhofe, R-Okla., that would put the restrictions in the war-funding measure.

While allies such as No. 2 Senate Democrat Dick Durbin of Illinois cast the development as a delay of only a few months, other Democrats have made it plain they don't want any of Guantanamo's detainees sent to the United States to stand trial or serve prison sentences.

"We don't want them around," said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

The Senate move matches steps taken by the House and threatens to paralyze the Obama administration's entire plan to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility by January. In recent weeks, Attorney General Eric Holder had sought to reassure skeptical lawmakers, but Congress appears unconvinced and may force the detention facility to remain in operation.

It's also evidence that a weeks-long GOP effort against Obama's order to close the Guantanamo facility is paying off.

"Guantanamo is the perfect place for these terrorists," said Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

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Democrats and other Republicans _ including last year's GOP standardbearer, Sen. John McCain of Arizona _ say it's time to close the facility, where detainees can be held for years without being charged.

But McCain said in a floor speech Tuesday that Obama has bungled the Guantanamo issue.

"The lack of a comprehensive, well-thought-out plan led to a predictable political backlash on Guantanamo," McCain said. "Instead of unifying Americans behind a plan that keeps us safe and honors our values, the administration's course of action has unified the opposition to moving forward and move forward we must."

Even Durbin acknowledged that Obama had put Democrats in an awkward spot by sending up a request for funding to close the prison without an accompanying plan.

"The feeling was at this point we were defending the unknown. We were being asked to defend a plan that hasn't been announced," Durbin said. "And the administration said, 'Understood. Give us time to put together that plan and we'll come to you in the next appropriations bill.'"

White House Press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that lawmakers were correct to insist on details on closing the detention facility. He said the president on Thursday would outline "a hefty part" of his agenda for the often-criticized facility.

A key piece of the Justice Department's plan has been to send many detainees abroad, but if Congress were to bar detainees from being transported to the United States _ even for trial _ it would become much more difficult to persuade other countries to accept them.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Geoff Morrell said at least some funding needs to be passed now or else it would be "exceedingly difficult" to meet Obama's target date.

Durbin said Obama's plan to close Guantanamo is not dead _ only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees.

The Senate's move was cast as a tactical retreat until the administration develops a plan to close the facility. But the political anxiety felt by many Democrats runs deeper. Many simply don't want them sent to U.S. soil _ even if they're held in high-security prisons.

"I can't make it any more clear," Reid said. "We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States."

Reporters repeatedly pressed Reid on whether his opposition to "releasing" inmates meant he is also against transferring them to the U.S. to stand trial. He appeared to indicate that was the case, though spokesman Jim Manley said later that Reid may have misspoken.

House Democrats dropped funding to close Guantanamo when producing their version of the war funding bill, which easily passed last week.

The Guantanamo controversy has roiled Washington, with most Republicans adamantly opposed to closing the prison, which mostly holds enemy combatants captured in Afghanistan. Republicans say abuses at the facility are a thing of the past.

The Senate's massive war spending measure otherwise sticks closely to Obama's request. The House version effectively exceeds Obama's request by almost $12 billion, adding $2.2 billion for foreign aid and eight C-17 cargo planes despite Defense Secretary Robert Gates' desire to cease purchases of the aircraft as part of his effort to overhaul Pentagon procurement.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison suffered a blow Tuesday when his allies in the Senate said they would refuse to finance the move until the admini...
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- katooom I'm a Fan of katooom 18 fans permalink
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If there is not enough evidence to convict these people, they MUST be let go. Take them right back to where they were found and let them go. Innocent till proven guilty. They are either innocent or guilty. Jury Try them to determine this. That is the way our system works. Simple.
This is a travesty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/19/2009
- wanj I'm a Fan of wanj 7 fans permalink

Reid needs to be ousted out of the Senate in 2010. He's a worthless dem!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/19/2009
- RegLib I'm a Fan of RegLib 68 fans permalink
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Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/19/2009
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I guess you have to be white to be tried, convicted and incarcerated in America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Execution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber#Life_in_prison

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 05/19/2009
- fallout4U I'm a Fan of fallout4U 30 fans permalink
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Bill Ayres did the same thing as McVeigh, he just wasn't as effective as McVeigh. His reward, teaching future generations his wacked-out radi-cal left-wing views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/19/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 233 fans permalink
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Hahahaha, nazis were given top secret projects in the u.s. government after ww2 and you jellybellies are peeingyourselves at the thought of putting criminals in u.s. prisons.
What the heck did we build them for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/19/2009

Hey you all are bemoaning your own party, guess what - YOU put them in office so you made your bed you have to lie in it.

Take responsiblity for your votes instead of whinning about them when you find out they are just liars like everyone else

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 05/19/2009
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Hey Elias, who did you vote for? I voted for McKinney so I'm not bemoaning my own party. If the Greens had been elected Gitmo would be closed already. The troops would be mostly gone from Iraq, The Banks would not have gotten their bail-out welfare. The auto industry would get worker ownership of shares in exchange for assistance. We would be debating single-payer univesal healthcare. Just to name a few.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 05/19/2009
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Send them all to Texas when they secede from the United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 05/19/2009
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I'd rather have a Gitmo detainee in a local prison than a hard core MS-13 gang member. What are they going to do if they happen to escape? They don't have any backup in this country and they will stick out like a sore thumb. As a person who lives in an urban area I find street gangs a whole lot more intimidating than any Al-Queda member.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 05/19/2009
- Keith52 I'm a Fan of Keith52 37 fans permalink
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This headline is so misleading. He said no detainees without disclosure of the plan. This is different than the Republican stance which is basically keep gitmo open.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 05/19/2009
- Openeyes I'm a Fan of Openeyes 19 fans permalink

Reid is so frickin stupid he's starting to make Michelle Bachman look plausible.

Since when is someone in a maximum security federal prison "released" in the United States? Does he think the inmates sitting in Leavenworth are "released"?

He is worse than useless. PLEASE get someone who can fly the jet in the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/19/2009
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If they are tried, and they have to be tried some day and they are not found guilty, their country of origin may not want them so they will have to be released in the United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/19/2009
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So, should we just execute them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/19/2009
- barra I'm a Fan of barra 10 fans permalink
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Just another of myriad examples of Obama's shocking realization that campaigning is easy and governing ...well not so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 05/19/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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It would help if the Democrats weren't prissy wonks, and the Repubs weren't stubborn children, and the Gordian knot Bush left behind were just a tad less tangled!

Everyone wants their special interests dealt with NOW!! Or Obama lied!!!

I just want to go back to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/19/2009
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 14 fans permalink
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You're the shocked and ignorant one here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/19/2009
- barra I'm a Fan of barra 10 fans permalink
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Is that the best you got? crawl back to the cave and try harder. congrats on the name though, very fitting for an Obamatron.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 AM on 05/20/2009
- marquitin I'm a Fan of marquitin 6 fans permalink
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Reid is such a weiner. Why why why can't the Dems get stronger leadership­... Reid and Pelosi. There are so many good people out there who could command respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 05/19/2009

HUH? Such an obvious straw man. NO ONE is talking about "releasing" terrorists. Does anyone care about holding ALLEGED criminals, who are untried, in prison for YEARS. What kind of beacon of "freedom and liberty" are we?

Put these people on trial. Convict or release them. In the meantime, why are politicians pretending that potentially violent criminals can't be held safely in the USA. Don't we have countless convicted murderers behind bars?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 05/19/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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Even if they are found guilty, time served is the median sentence for just belonging to a terrorist group.

And soldiers even out of uniform, fighting for their country are POWs not terrorists!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/19/2009
- Darcman I'm a Fan of Darcman 8 fans permalink
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Again, the Dems buying into right wing nonsense! Listening to Harry Reid one would think its 2002 again. These are the same people who for years were saying that Bin Laden should be captured and brought back for trial but now that the Repubs have successfully put their spin on the issue, they are running scared! What don't these people think prison cells don't have locks on them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/19/2009
- Miyake I'm a Fan of Miyake 17 fans permalink

I agree. What is so dangerous about having them in the USA? They are in prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 05/19/2009
- MrBadger I'm a Fan of MrBadger 13 fans permalink

Reid is an embarrassment!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 05/19/2009
- Dbos I'm a Fan of Dbos 28 fans permalink

YES HE IS .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/19/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 435 fans permalink
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This is what happens when the military pays people in Afganistan and Iraq to round up militants. They snatched up pretty much anybody off the streets just to make a quick buck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 05/19/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 233 fans permalink
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During ww2 over 100,000 nazipows were housed on american soil. The justice dept. estimates that as many as 10,000 nazis escaped into the u.s.(some with the help of thecia) after the w.ar.
http://www.anatheist.net/2009/03/america-the-nazis-2/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 05/19/2009
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Some were brought here for missile research, and incidentally, the CIA wasn't around then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/19/2009
- JillQ I'm a Fan of JillQ 17 fans permalink
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Actually, Truman created the CIA- it was called the OSS. And he said it was the worst thing he ever did!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 05/19/2009
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