Obama, Automakers Announce "Truly Historic" Emissions Limits

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STEVEN R. HURST | May 19, 2009 08:29 PM EST | AP

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President Barack Obama walks to shake hands with the audience at an event announcing new fuel and emission standards for cars and trucks, Tuesday, May 19,2009, in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. On stage are auto industry leaders, at left, from left are: Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick; Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm; California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is asking consumers to put their money _ up to $1,300 per new vehicle by 2016 _ behind his plan for higher efficiency standards for cars and trucks and tougher rules on their greenhouse gas emissions.

In return, Obama said Tuesday in unveiling the plan, drivers would make up the higher cost of more fuel-efficient, cleaner vehicles by buying less gas at the pump. It would take just three years to pay off the investment and would, over the life of a vehicle, save about $2,800 through better gas mileage, the president said.

While requiring that vehicle carbon dioxide emissions be reduced by about one-third by the target date, the plan also calls for the auto industry to build vehicles that average 35.5 miles per gallon. Government regulations have never before linked emission and fuel standards.

"The fact is, everyone wins," Obama said during a Rose Garden ceremony attended by representatives of the auto industry and environmental groups as well as state and federal lawmakers.

"Consumers pay less for fuel, which means less money going overseas and more money to save or spend here at home. The economy as a whole runs more efficiently by using less oil and producing less pollution," he said. "And companies like those here today have new incentives to create the technologies and the jobs that will provide smarter ways to power our vehicles."

Obama said the proposal would save 1.8 billion barrels of oil over the lifetime of the vehicles sold in the next five years, akin to removing 177 million cars from the roads over the next 6 1/2 years.

In that period, he said, the savings in oil burned to fuel American cars, trucks and buses would amount to last year's combined U.S. imports from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Libya and Nigeria.

The plan, to be proposed in the Federal Register of pending rules and regulations, must clear procedural hurdles at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Transportation Department.

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Under the changes, the overall fleet average would have to be 35.5 mpg by 2016, with passenger cars reaching 39 mpg and light trucks hitting 30 mpg under a system that develops standards for each vehicle class size. Manufacturers would also be required to hit individual mileage targets.

Consumers were already going to pay an extra $700 for mileage standards that had been approved previously, according to administration officials. The Obama plan adds another $600 to the price of a vehicle, bringing the total cost to $1,300 by 2016.

The plan would effectively end a feud between automakers and statehouses over emission standards. Fourteen states and the District of Columbia had urged the federal government to allow them to enact more stringent standards than the federal government's requirements.

Obama's plan gives states the higher standard for emissions they requested but also sets a single national standard, sought by automakers, and more time for automakers to make the changes.

The president claimed historic progress in his bid for a "clean-energy economy" and hailed the deal accepted by diverse interest groups as a "harbinger of a change in the way business is done in Washington."

The ceremony brought together longtime adversaries. California state Sen. Fran Pavley, who wrote the 2002 law that required auto companies to reduce tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases, sat next to Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., a longtime champion of the auto industry.

Nearby, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who has defended General Motors and Chrysler as they struggle with government aid, sat next to California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was once depicted in a Detroit billboard that read, "Arnold to Michigan: Drop Dead!"

Auto executives joined the event and later said they were pleased with the first steps.

"Clearly over time, the president is going to continue to work toward an integrated energy policy in the United States, the consumer is going to be involved and we're all going to move forward, I believe, on this journey to energy independence, energy security and long-term stability," Ford CEO Alan Mulally told reporters at the White House.

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Associated Press writers Philip Elliott, Ben Feller, Ken Thomas and Dina Cappiello contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is asking consumers to put their money _ up to $1,300 per new vehicle by 2016 _ behind his plan for higher efficiency standards for cars and trucks and toughe...
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It’s about time that US automakers realize that green cars are what we need. President Obama has taken a positive step to make it possible. To the three giant automakers Ford, Chrysler and GM... a word of advice, start working on your emission standards. I'll put this on Trackle track list http://www.trackle.com/catalog/news/?p=p2 to get more updates.
George

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 05/20/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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OOOHHH Bummy own car companies...........WOW Thanks Messiah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/20/2009
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 23 fans permalink

Electric vehicles will certainly skew the "fleet average" mpg.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/19/2009

I find this very disturbing. My family and I need light trucks for work and such. My family and can't fit into one of those electric gocarts, we need the minivan. What is going to happen to the heavy trucks? Is he going to put emission standards on riding lawnmowers and farm tractors too? If people want to drive the small hybrid cars fine, but I want to drive what I want to drive. I'll spend the $2800 on fuel to keep what I have. I bet Obama will not change any of his government vehicles while he is in office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 05/19/2009

I find it disturbing that you would think that either light trucks or heavy trucks will go away. They won't. They will simply be more and more restricted to the people who need them to make money OR the people who can afford the luxury to drive an empty shipping container around for the fun of it. No big deal.

Cheers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 05/20/2009

There are no real money savings again for the consumer because less gasoline sales mean less taxes for the states and so the states will either increase the gasoline tax or some other tax to make up for the shortfall plus these cars cost more. Besides I already got a new Toyota Yaris last month saving money and the planet already. Thank you Japan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 05/19/2009

This is not about saving money for the consumer. This is about national security and the realization that one can't live in a finite world as if it was infinite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/20/2009

This really isn't pushing automakers hard at all. The current hybrid cars already have 32 to 36 mpg and the new Prius will have 38 mpg. The current hybrid trucks already have 28 to 30 mpg. So, setting CAFE standards to 39 mpg for cars and 30 mpg for trucks by 2016 is NOTHING. It's signing a bill just to say you are doing something when you are not doing much at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 05/19/2009
- benji85 I'm a Fan of benji85 8 fans permalink
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I agree. Personally I would have liked to see something more like 40 mpg. I mean Toyota has been hitting 30 mpg for a while now.

Also I am confused does the 35 mean a combined average Highway or City?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 05/19/2009

Sadly, you are right, my friend.

:-(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 05/19/2009
- Photofarm I'm a Fan of Photofarm 21 fans permalink

Stupid f***************** idiots. How to make the recession into a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 05/19/2009

You mean GM was actually making money when they were allowed to build any size batmobile they liked? Not according to my reading of their last 40 quarterly results...

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/19/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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The Democrats aim to ruin all companies in America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/19/2009
- benji85 I'm a Fan of benji85 8 fans permalink
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Wait who was president when we started bailing out the remaining companies in the U.S.?

Oh yeah it was BUSH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/19/2009
- Bafun I'm a Fan of Bafun 19 fans permalink

but he was white

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 05/20/2009

Yay! Smaller vehicles that will be using more plastic and aluminum and less steal! Sounds like they'll be very safe vehicles! Just what the consumer wants! LOL! Can't wait to see what how this one turns out!

If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take and what cars they should drive, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny. – Thomas Jefferson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 05/19/2009

Look how safe those "put on something more metal" vehicles are:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/hummer-vs-school-bus-ar16906/IMG/jpg/200611/hummer-vs-school-busw.jpg

I love this picture... it shows two things: Americans are poor drivers (it was for sure not the school bus that was driving backwards at 50mph...) and they buy any crap as long as it comes with a pretty tv ad.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 05/19/2009
- DWX I'm a Fan of DWX permalink

The Republicans are still denying the science of CO2 gas and its effects on climate change. A simple experiment can be performed by filling a heated container with CO2 gas and incrementally adding more CO2 gas into the container while measuring the amount of trapped heat (conversely the escape of trapped heat). The science is undeniably correct that there is a direct correlation between CO2 gas and trapped heat in the atmosphere. So, it does make a lot of sense to cut down on CO2 emissions by building higher efficiency standards for cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/19/2009

CO2 levels are at historical lows right now, that is a scientific fact. They will go up again eventually, and get to much higher levels whether we're here or not. Doesn't matter if we go to completely clean fuel, what will the libs complain about then when were on clean fuel. Stop breathing so we don't exhale 4% of CO2 every time? Or tax us for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 05/19/2009

True... and when CO2 levels were high, so were average temperatures on Earth. And it all happened when man was not walking the planet and when he didn't need low temperatures for his agriculture.

:-)

Nature can deal with high CO2 levels... she just does it without us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 05/19/2009
- Photofarm I'm a Fan of Photofarm 21 fans permalink

How can you deny science that idiots have put together that doesn't follow reality? There is plenty of science that says CO2 is not that big a deal, but the " government can do no wrong " fools won't listen to it, or understand that Al Gore's climate message is totally wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 05/19/2009
- DWX I'm a Fan of DWX permalink

All these discussions on whether CO2 emissions are responsible for the climate change (or not) should not make any difference to the above topic.

Why would anyone wants to settle for a less efficient car, perhaps only Republicans? I would much prefer a car with a rating of 100 mpg than a 35.5 mpg

Please, Get Real!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/19/2009
- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 36 fans permalink

Throw us another bone, Obama, and we'll be happy. What bull! I had two cars in the 1950s that got at least as good mileage as the president is proposing. And now I'm told the car industry has been making different cars with different standards according to the standards of individual states. How stupid. You mean these big rich auto makers couldn't get together and decide on making cars that met the most stringent standard? No wonder they're broke. Already I've heard some of them crying that no one wants small, fuel-efficient cars, that they don't know how to make such cars, that every time they've tried, they've failed. It seems the auto makers lack well-trained, innovative designers and engineers. Or maybe they simply do not care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 05/19/2009

People don't survive bad accidents so well in small cars.....that's why a lot of people buy bigger cars....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/19/2009
- it is me I'm a Fan of it is me 12 fans permalink

I keep hearing people talk about "this is just another tax". Well, not to be harsh, but for the past several decades, Americans have chosen lifestyles that are based on inexpensive everything. Bigger houses because of cheap land, longer commutes because of cheap gas, etc. Well, we are finally starting to have to pay for all of these decisions. We are spoiled in that we expect things to be cheap and easy and when that isnt the case, we complain that we have to pay for our actions. I fully understand that not everyone wants to live in a city or a small apartment, but the lifestyles that we have grown accustomed to are simply unsustainable. The average new home is over 2000 sq ft while the average family is still less than a couple with 2 children. Yet, people buy bigger homes to live the American Dream and then are angered when it comes time to pay more for the resources we use to heat it, cool it, maintain it, and drive to and from it.
Again, sorry if it sounds harsh, but this country has avoided making tough decisions since WWII, and unfortunately, now the time has come to pay for what we have become.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 05/19/2009
- burt2009 I'm a Fan of burt2009 16 fans permalink

Angered? Yes. Angered at a government that increased social programs at the expense of an adequate infrastructure to provide utilities to a growing population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 05/19/2009

When did we increase social programs? Before or after we exploded the defense budget?

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 05/19/2009
- Diana I'm a Fan of Diana 13 fans permalink

Yeah, Rush, your taxes are going to all those awful social programs and not to wall street or halliburton/the war machine!

Guess you're a multi-millionaire because you'll need every penny of your money to live off of:

1) if you lose your job
2) if you or a family member gets a serious, long-term illness and your insurance runs out
3) once you retire--until you die.

But, hey, Rush, I know it would be easier to suffer than to look at the real cause of any problems you might have if you become poor or once you get old--so knock yourself out, my friend, knock yourself out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 05/19/2009
- ohiomark I'm a Fan of ohiomark 123 fans permalink

Obama claims that the extra $1,300 cost of the new "green" vehicles will be offset by the fuel savings.

The problem with that statement is that the future rise in fuel prices from his "Cap and Trade" bill along with the other energy price hikes associated with the new tax will make EVERYTHING more expensive.

For those of you dummies who believed Obama when he told you there would be no tax increase for 95% of "working families", these upcoming energy price hikes will wipe out that false promise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/19/2009
- burt2009 I'm a Fan of burt2009 16 fans permalink

Liberals in Congress and State Legislatures have figured it out, if it moves, breaths, mineral or animal, tax it. Even one of their favorites, death tax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/19/2009

Republicans have, again, chosen to be against solutions and to perpetuate problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 05/19/2009

This is not a tax. A tax would be to tax a dollar a gallon for gasoline next year and two dollars a gallon the year after. That would be an effective tax. It would solve some of our fiscal issues and it would keep oil prices low by curbing consumption.

As it is, the US has chosen once more to avoid solving the problem. We will see another increase of oil prices this year and an even higher one next year. But instead of this money going into our empty federal and state budgets, it will, again, go to oil exporting countries all around the globe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/19/2009
- ohiomark I'm a Fan of ohiomark 123 fans permalink

You can't expect an economy to expand when consumption goes down and that includes energy consumption.

Cap and Trade is indeed a tax. It's a tax on business that will be passed onto all of us in the form of higher prices. ALL corporate taxes are put into the price of everything they produce and sell. You are right when you say that higher taxes curb behavior, but how does that help an ailing economy? It doesn't, it just makes things worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 05/19/2009
- iamnumba1 I'm a Fan of iamnumba1 3 fans permalink

This should be the front page story. Not the crap about a tentative withholding of money related to Guantanamo Bay detainees.

This is why the media sucks. Everyone should get satellite radio and listed to channel 130. You will get all of the news unfiltered and unbiased. No fear-mongering or drama-peddling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 05/19/2009
- RasKesar I'm a Fan of RasKesar 4 fans permalink
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Exactly what I was thinking. I was expecting this to be the front page story

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 05/19/2009
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You are so right, but some Americans don't have the attention span to listen to reports or read articles that are essential - even if they may seem a bit dull, but straightforward. This is why I try not to watch most American news channels, except for "The Daily Show," instead read articles from BBC and here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 05/19/2009
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 341 fans permalink
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This is just great ......... it's about time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 05/19/2009

What's so great about this? That we have another non-solution? Please run the numbers and weep. The US consumes about 20.8 million barrels of oil a day. Multiply with 365, that's 7.6 billion barrels of oil a year. So if we save 1.8 billion barrels over the lifetime of these cars, that's like not consuming any oil from now to the end of August, after which everything would be exactly the same. If you amortize that over five years, it's a mere three weeks worth of annual savings.

So where, exactly is the "great" in this scenario? Would it be in the fact that nobody around here cares to check what it actually means but just takes it as feelgood news?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/19/2009

Most libs don't balance their accounts or understand what numbers are, they just hear Obama speak and sleep peacefully at night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/19/2009
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