Obama's New Emissions Rules Will Transform US Auto Fleet

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TOM KRISHER | May 19, 2009 09:23 PM EST | AP

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FILE - In this June 2, 2008 file photo, electric hybrid cars are plugged-in to charge during a demonstration of the vehicles in Seattle. AFS Trinity says it has the only working plug-in hybrid vehicles with a 40-mile "all-electric" range. President Barack Obama outlined Tuesday, May 19, 2009, the nation's first comprehensive effort to curb vehicle emissions while cutting dependence on imported oil, calling the plan an historic turning point toward a "clean-energy economy." (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson, file)

DETROIT — Some soccer moms will have to give up hulking SUVs. Carpenters will still haul materials around in pickup trucks, but they will cost more. Nearly everybody else will drive smaller cars, and more of them will run on electricity. The higher mileage and emissions standards set by the Obama administration on Tuesday, which begin to take effect in 2012 and are to be achieved by 2016, will transform the American car and truck fleet.

The new rules would bring new cars and trucks sold in the United States to an average of 35.5 miles per gallon, about 10 mpg more than today's standards. Passenger cars will be required to get 39 mpg, light trucks 30 mpg.

That means cars and trucks on American roads will have to become smaller, lighter and more efficient.

Eric Fedewa, vice president of global powertrain forecasting for the auto consulting firm CSM Worldwide in Northville, Mich., said the changes will make pickup trucks so much more expensive that they will be used almost exclusively for work.

And instead of a minivan or SUV, more parents will haul their families in much smaller vehicles with three rows of seats _ something more like the Mazda 5 small van, he said. The Mazda 5 gets about 28 mpg on the highway.

"I think what you'll see is a lot more creativity in interior packaging," Fedewa said. "You'll get more rows of seats where you traditionally had cargo space."

Already on Tuesday, some drivers were skeptical. Dixie Bishop, who runs a plumbing business in San Antonio that uses vans, worries the new requirements will drive up her costs at a time when customers are cutting back on repairs.

"Are they going to take my horsepower down?" she asked. "I have to be able to carry old water heaters and toilets. It's not beneficial for me to haul one water heater at a time. We need the power to pull these heavy items."

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The changes will start with smaller cars and trucks, and improvements to the internal combustion engine, Fedewa said. Automakers also already working on new technology, including direct fuel injection and high compression of the air-fuel mixture, that will make cars and trucks more efficient.

Car companies are rewiring vehicles so components such as air conditioners and power steering pumps are powered by electricity rather than by the engine, saving fuel.

And they're developing computer-controlled transmissions with six or more gears, adding efficiency, and rolling out more gas-electric hybrids _ among the few cars sold today that meet the 2016 standards.

Of course, developing the technology will cost money _ billions of dollars _ and automakers will pass that on to their customers.

The Obama administration says the changes mean the average vehicle would cost about $1,300 more, although some private analysts say the increase will be much heftier. The administration says gas savings will make up the difference in about three years.

Automakers have said they need stable, relatively high gasoline prices to create a market for electric vehicles. General Motors fears rolling out its rechargeable Chevrolet Volt next year with gas at $2 per gallon.

American consumers have already shown their car-buying habits can change rapidly depending on gas prices. When fuel cost $4 a gallon last summer, people flocked to smaller cars. Gas is much cheaper now, and sales of hybrids have plummeted.

"The U.S. consumer has consistently chosen performance over fuel economy given the relatively low cost of fuel," David Leiker, senior automotive analyst for Robert W. Baird & Co. in Milwaukee, wrote in a note to investors.

The Volt is designed to run 40 miles on battery power when it is fully charged. After that, a small internal combustion engine kicks in to generate electricity and keep the car going. Other automakers are working on similar systems.

But the Volt is expected to sell for $35,000 to $40,000, and buyers may be unwilling to pay that much for a sedan, even if tax credits help ease the burden, unless gas prices soar.

Rechargeable electric vehicles, which under government calculations could get 100 mpg or more, will help automakers meet the standards and offset sales of larger, less-efficient models.

Under Obama's plan, the sale of of electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids could also generate "super credits" that would count as more than one vehicle when an automaker determines its average fuel economy and emissions figures.

The new rules cause manufacturers "to accelerate their technology plans, probably a little more aggressively than they originally thought," said Tony Posawatz, who heads development of the Volt's technology. "For us, we feel comfortable that we've got choices."

Just a few years ago, GM and other auto executives were doubtful they could meet even less stringent standards, but Posawatz said the technology has changed since then, especially with new lithium-ion batteries.

GM also is looking at electric trucks, which may bring them even closer to the goals, he said.

Earlier this year, Toyota said it planned to launch as many as 10 new hybrid models worldwide by early 2010, and it plans to bring a new version of the Prius to the U.S. in the coming weeks. Honda's new Insight hybrid is already on sale in the U.S. Mazda, meanwhile, has said it plans to focus less on hybrid vehicles and more on improvements to its basic internal combustion engine.

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AP Auto Writers Kimberly S. Johnson and Dan Strumpf in New York, AP Energy Writer John Porretto in Houston, and Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

DETROIT — Some soccer moms will have to give up hulking SUVs. Carpenters will still haul materials around in pickup trucks, but they will cost more. Nearly everybody else will drive smaller cars...
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I am so angry that I will be forced to send less money to the Saudis and other people who are trying to kill us. I am shaking my hand (with the keys to my Hummer) in anger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 AM on 05/20/2009

I have used 4 cylinder trucks for years and have never wished for more power except when driving in deep sand which has been so rare it adds up to a fraction of a percent of the time, and even then I managed ok. The same large Mercedes with a V8 being sold in the US is sold in Europe with a 4 cylinder and is designed to travel at sustained speeds of 100 mph on the Autobahn. Americans are used to wasting gas rushing away from stop lights just tapping the gas peddle, and the auto reviewers think anything not powerful enough to do so is "underpowered". Zero to 60 in less in than 15 seconds used to be acceptable. Now anything less than 8 seconds is considered a slug, and 6 seconds or less is considered ultra desireable. My current ride, a 2006 Nissan Frontier pick up with 4 cylinders (XE model) gets sub par reviews on power, but is a very capable highway cruiser with sporty accelleration. I get 24 mpg, and would have been happy to give up a few hp to get more like 30 mpg. But if Nissan had put less horsepower in it, the reviewers would have panned the truck even more than they did. Big Oil must get a kick out of this kind of thinking. Bet they hope we don't take a look around at what they rest of the world is doing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 05/20/2009
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Have you all noticed that the people who oppose this are so whiny and scared about everything. What happened to the pioneer spirit of this country? Can you imagine if the western pioneers had said "gee I don't know honey it is so scary our there with those big buffalo maybe we should just stay here and let Spain, France and England have the big bad western part of the country where those nasty nasty grizzly bears are!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 05/20/2009

Funny how in the US, home of "teh Market", higher efficiency will be reached through legislation, whereas in Europe and Japan, home of "teh Socio-Fascists", it was reached mainly by taxing fuel which payed for both roads and public transportation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 05/20/2009
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and subsidies paid to their automakers to develop the technology, unlike here where the madates are imposed but not funded

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 05/20/2009
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barry motors

barry controls the US car design....

but

foreign cars can do anything they like

GO barry

absolutely ruining US competition

change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 05/20/2009

FYI, foreign cars already comply to those standards because for 30 years fuel is much more expensive in Europe and Japan and "teh Market" put pressure on automakers to come up with fuel efficient cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 05/20/2009
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foreign car mfg can do anything they like

such as make larger models exclusively for US market

no competition possible

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 05/20/2009

Foreign car makers will have to comply with those regulations also you twit!
Besides both Ford and GM (Opel Saab) already produce such cars but never sold them in the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 05/20/2009
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Just wait till we are taxed by the miles we drive along with the tax that's already added to our gasoline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 05/20/2009

I believe that President Barack Obama will change the automotive industry in US. Get alerts on Obama on http://www.trackle.com/catalog/people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 05/20/2009
- pipetoe I'm a Fan of pipetoe 19 fans permalink
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And the semi trucks will crush these cars and us along with them....That's why I hate small cars....
Every liberal minded person I know will drive a Preius until they have a baby...and then out comes the Range Rover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 05/20/2009
- johnr49 I'm a Fan of johnr49 83 fans permalink

Do you honestly think a semi couldn't crush a Range Rover almost as easily as a Prius? Get Real!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/20/2009
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No, it can't. A prius is almost like having a tissue paper box around you compared to a Range Rover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 05/20/2009
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Actually I have a baby and we drive a Prius. Your anecdotes don't really matter or apply sorry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 05/20/2009
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maybe someone should contact child protective services for endangerment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 05/20/2009
- pipetoe I'm a Fan of pipetoe 19 fans permalink
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My son has a motorcycle...I hate the thing...He's dead meat in the slightest accident...same for small light weight cars especially on freeways...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/20/2009

Gosh, you mean those NASCAR dads will have to give up driving their 300 hp behemoth SUVs and cutting off everyone else trying to prove their manlihood? If that's the kind of sacrifice needed to make greener vehicles then count me in to Obama's plan. Seriously, why does anyone need a 10 mph Hummer or giant gas-sucking Escalade just to drive themselves (with no one else in the vehicle) to work. The Toyota Prius and Honda Insight will do just as good a job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 05/20/2009
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While there are a few anedotes of people owning trucks who don't really need them

the demographic for trucks has been and still is contractors, farmers, tradesmen, as well as do-it -yourselfer types who actually use their trucks

will you be the one telling that iron worker he can't use his pickup for work anymore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/20/2009
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 76 fans permalink
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What Obama is proposing is pathetic.

Roosevelt would have laughed at him.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 05/20/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 135 fans permalink
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says the tr0ll ...

Obama is trying to be Obama .. not another Roosevelt ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 05/20/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 135 fans permalink
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& can you explain why it is pathetic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/20/2009
- prosha I'm a Fan of prosha 9 fans permalink

I can not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 05/20/2009
- psbintl I'm a Fan of psbintl 19 fans permalink
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Everyone whines about how bad things are with our environment, however nobody wants to make the necessary sacrifices to change it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 05/20/2009
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Yeah, it's an unfortunate attribute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 05/20/2009
- Gumby123 I'm a Fan of Gumby123 15 fans permalink
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You have to consider that a lot of people don't have the money to make the sacrifice in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 05/20/2009
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Yeah, if "green" options were cheaper, I'd be all for it.

Another thing that bugs me is that we are forcing developing countries to dive straight into the more expensive, renewables, rather than progress with gasoline until they have a strong enough economy to make the switch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 05/20/2009
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I could not afford a car anymore. I walk everywhere now. I feel so much better. I think everyone should give it a try. Also just wondering what the calculation for MPG for an all electric cars is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/20/2009
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Well, since they wouldn't use any G's in MPG, they would get infinite. But perhaps you mean miles per charge, which is an upcoming technology. They have electric cars, but people don't want to give up the strength their combustion engines provide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 05/20/2009
- Chironomid I'm a Fan of Chironomid 22 fans permalink

MPG=0, technically. But as a practical example, Nissan has a prototype "all electric" going to production that gets an effective 367 MPG, which takes in account the reality that your charge is likely to run out somewhere sometime out on the road.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/20/2009
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I'm going to go buy the nastiest Oldsmobile diesel from the 80's I can find and puke emissions all over the country, as my form of protest. I might even put a Gadsden flag on the bumper to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 05/20/2009
- johnr49 I'm a Fan of johnr49 83 fans permalink

How very childish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 05/20/2009
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Are we supposed to be impressed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 05/20/2009

Why? Don't you breathe air just like us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 05/20/2009
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He is facetiously pointing out american's aversion to diesel vehicles

the diesels of the 80s were clunky, noisy, smoky, maintenance intensive hogs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/20/2009
- larmarch5 I'm a Fan of larmarch5 51 fans permalink
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And poop your britches to boot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/20/2009
- 1010TRAVIS I'm a Fan of 1010TRAVIS 4 fans permalink

I don't want to be in a clown car on the interstate with my kids going 60 miles an hour next to a 18-wheeler used for transport, or a big farm truck hauling hay, or a UPS, or FED-EX truck. The automobile copmanies already make fuel-efficient cars......americans don't want them! There are always going to be huge passenger jets flying around. The people in government, starting with the POTUS, and going down to all the way down to the governors of each state are'nt going to give up their fleet of suv's. I don't want to have to find a babysitter so I can go to the store and have enough room to put my groceries. The list goes on and on. This is freaking stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/19/2009
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 76 fans permalink
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Don't you mean YOU don't want them?

Certainly SUV's have a place in the market. But don't assume some Americans don't want the option of a genuinely fuel efficient car though. Not that Obama is proposing a genuinely fuel-efficient car. His proposal is pathetic.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 05/20/2009
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Simple! Get all the 18 wheelers off the highways. It costs us 8 times more to build a highway for them over passenger vehicles. Trains are far more efficient. Trucks should be used for short trips only.

Oh, and by the way. Stop being afraid of everything. Your starting to act like an American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 05/20/2009
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No Whining!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 05/20/2009

Unless you're driving a MINI Cooper from the 1960s, you're just being silly. What, exactly, do you consider to be a clown car?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 05/20/2009
- larmarch5 I'm a Fan of larmarch5 51 fans permalink
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So, your next vehicle will be a giant earth moving behemoth that can run over the 18-wheeler? What is the life of a child worth if his mother takes the life of another's child?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/20/2009
- newiceage I'm a Fan of newiceage 9 fans permalink
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The article doesn't even touch on the highest cost.

The biggest price will be paid by American families in the dramatic increase in fatalities and catastrophic injures suffered by all the women and children forced to ride around in Obama Motors unsafe, uncrash worthy, death traps.

Anyone seen how the Honda Fit and Nissan Versa fair in insurance industry safety crash tests? Yea, lets make all the cars on the road just like them. Great idea.

But hey small price to payoff some of the debts Barry owes to his wacko enviroterrorist buddies and their fraudulent global warming cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/19/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 186 fans permalink
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Yeah it's all those "Liberal Satellites", showing the ice melting everywhere...that's the problem..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 05/20/2009

Not to mention the liberal ice that only melts to forward Obama's socialist agenda!

;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 05/20/2009
- johnr49 I'm a Fan of johnr49 83 fans permalink

Insurance Industry for Highway Safety Results:

2009 Top Safety Pick - 2009 Honda Fit: good performance in front, side, and rear tests and optional electronic stability control

Frontal offset test results: Good
Side impact test results: Good

Nissan Versa:

Frontal offset test results: Good
Side impact test results: Good

It appears that your statement about "unsafe, uncrash worthy, death traps" is about as accurate as your claim that global warning is a fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 05/20/2009
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"Good" as opposed to excellent or exceptional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 05/20/2009
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