Senate Votes To Block Funds For Guantanamo Closure

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DAVID ESPO | May 20, 2009 08:34 PM EST | AP

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A security agent talks into his microphone as FBI Director Robert Mueller chats with House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, May 20, 2009, prior to Mueller testifying before the committee. (AP Photo/Harry Hamburg)

WASHINGTON — In a rare, bipartisan defeat for President Barack Obama, the Senate voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay open for the foreseeable future and forbid the transfer of any detainees to facilities in the United States.

Democrats lined up with Republicans in the 90-6 vote that came on the heels of a similar move a week ago in the House, underscoring widespread apprehension among Obama's congressional allies over voters' strong feelings about bringing detainees to the U.S. from the prison in Cuba.

The president readied a speech for Thursday morning on the U.S. fight against terrorism, at a time when liberals have chafed at some of his decisions.

In spite of lawmakers' concerns, the Obama administration plans to send a top al-Qaida suspect held at Guantanamo Bay to New York to stand trial for the deadly 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa, an administration official told The Associated Press on Wednesday. The suspect, Ahmed Ghailani, would be the first Guantanamo detainee brought to the U.S. and the first to face trial in a civilian criminal court.

Obama has vowed to close the prison by January 2010, and the Senate's vote was not the final word on the matter. It will be next month at the earliest before Congress completes work on the legislation, giving the White House time pursue a compromise that would allow the president to fulfill his pledge.

But Obama's maneuvering room was further constrained during the day when FBI Director Robert Mueller told a congressional panel that he had concerns about bringing Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in the United States. Among the risks is "the potential for individuals undertaking attacks in the United States," said Mueller, who was appointed by President George W. Bush in 2001 and is serving a 10-year fixed term in office.

Additionally, U.S. District Judge John Bates ruled this week that some prisoners _ but not all _ can be held indefinitely at Guantanamo without being charged, thus increasing the pressure on the administration to develop a plan for the men held there.

After the Senate vote, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said, "The president understands that his most important job is to keep the American people safe and that he is not going to make any decision or any judgment that imperils the safety of the American people."

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He added Obama has not yet decided where some of the detainees will be sent. A presidential commission is studying the issue.

There was no suspense in the moments leading to the Senate vote, although Democrats maneuvered to take political credit for denying Obama funds he sought to close the prison. They hoped to negate weeks of Republican warnings about the danger involved.

Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, chairman of the Appropriations Committee, favors closing Guantanamo, and the legislation his panel originally sent to the floor provided money for that purpose once the administration submitted a plan for the shutdown.

In changing course and seeking to delete the funds, he said, "The fact that the administration has not offered a workable plan at this point made that decision rather easy."

All six opponents of the proposal were Democrats: Sens. Dick Durbin of Illinois, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Carl Levin of Michigan, and Jack Reed and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.

The administration asked for $80 million to close the facility. Obama promised repeatedly as a presidential candidate to shut down the prison, calling it a blot on the international image of the United States.

Even in voting to deny him the funds, Obama's Democratic allies insisted the president was fundamentally correct.

"Guantanamo is used by al-Qaida as a symbol of American abuse of Muslims and is fanning the flames of anti-Americanism around the world," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California.

And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who had said on Tuesday he opposed allowing detainees to be transferred to U.S. prisons, signaled he might change his mind on that point. "If the administration proposes a plan that recommends the transfer of some detainees to American prisons, he will evaluate it carefully and make a judgment at that time," said spokesman Jim Manley.

The lopsided vote was a victory for the Senate Republicans, who have recently turned their attention to Obama's policies on foreign policy and terrorism after failing to make headway in criticizing his economic program.

Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has delivered numerous speeches in recent weeks raising pointed questions about Obama's plans to close the prison without first explaining where the men held there would be sent. "For months, we have been saying what Senate Democrats now acknowledge: that because the administration has no plan for what to do with the 240 detainees at Guantanamo, it would be irresponsible and dangerous for the Senate to appropriate the money to close it," McConnell said shortly before the vote.

The Republican leader also won approval for a separate terror-related provision later in the day. On a vote of 92-3, the Senate agreed to require the administration, before releasing any detainee, to inform Congress of the likelihood that he would return to terrorism. It also would report on any effort al-Qaida may be making to recruit detainees once they're released from U.S. custody.

Obama came to office pledging a dramatic change in George W. Bush's terrorism policy. In the months since, he has woven an uncertain course, occasionally angering liberals.

He first backed the cancellation of military tribunals for prisoners, then announced he wanted them resumed with greater legal protections for the accused. Last week, he reversed course on another issue, deciding to appeal a court-ordered release of prisoner-abuse photos taken at Abu Ghraib in Iraq.

Several Republicans praised Obama for those very steps.

"I commend him for being very willing to change his opinion in light of having access to the intelligence he didn't have access to" as a candidate, said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah.

FBI Director Mueller made his comments before the House Judiciary Committee.

Prodded by Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., to agree that Guantanamo detainees could be kept safely in maximum security prisoners in the United States, Mueller declined. He noted that in some instances gang leaders have run their gangs from inside prisons.

If Reid has appeared equivocal on the possible transfer of prisoners, Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, the second-in-command among Democrats, pointed out that no one has ever escaped from a federal "supermax" prison and that 347 convicted terrorists are among those held in them.

That drew some support from Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. "The idea that we cannot find a place to securely house 250-plus detainees within the United States is not rational," he said.

Not all Republicans were thinking along the same lines.

"No good purpose is served by allowing known terrorists, who trained at terrorist training camps, to come to the U.S. and live among us," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas. "Guantanamo Bay was never meant to be an Ellis Island."

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Associated Press writers Devlin Barrett, Nedra Pickler and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a rare, bipartisan defeat for President Barack Obama, the Senate voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay open for the foreseeable future and forbid th...
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- Jtt I'm a Fan of Jtt 39 fans permalink
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Its almost comical in a way:

"WASHINGTON, May 8, 2006
Bush Says He Wants To Close Guantanamo

President Bush says he would like to close the detention center in Guantanamo in Cuba, but is waiting for a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on whether inmates can face military tribunals.

"Obviously, the Guantanamo issue is a sensitive issue for people," Mr. Bush told ARD German television. "I very much would like to end Guantanamo; I very much would like to get people to a court."

Wow the more things Change......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 05/20/2009
- zippy01 I'm a Fan of zippy01 5 fans permalink

So why didn't anyone credit Bush for wanting to close GITMO, even though he couldn't get it done? Then they credit Obama for saying he would do it in under a year, only to find out he won't be doing it? Who told a half truth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/20/2009
- Jtt I'm a Fan of Jtt 39 fans permalink
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I dont know - Bush was the I.diot that opened the place remember.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 05/20/2009
- MelDel7365 I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 19 fans permalink

This is just embarrassing. The Republicans' hysterical fear campaign, apparently worked. Despite any logical or factually based arguments to the contrary - the Senators have given in to the pathetic delusional paranoia of the Republicans and those on whom their fear campaign worked.

Many of the same arguments used to justify this pathetic vote can be used for other prisoners IN this country. We have members of the mafia, drug traffickers at every level, and gang members in prisons all over this country. These people have organizations and/or devotees that would love to break them out, and some are as organized (if not more organized) than suspected terrorists who have been out of communication with the world for years. Our prisons hold them fine.

This hysteria is embarrassing. Guantanamo gives fuel to the terrorists who would use it to recruit others, and it damages our country's reputation in the eyes of the world. We need to start living up to the morals and values about which we like to preach to the rest of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 05/20/2009

"The Republicans' hysterical fear campaign, apparently worked..."

No, I think it was the terrorists' fear campaign, from, you know, attacking the U.S. repeatedly, and then killing thousands on 9-11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/20/2009
- aturner18 I'm a Fan of aturner18 6 fans permalink
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Good I don't want to close Gitmo. The far left wants them free until they find out they might be in their back yard. Suddenly they have a change of heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/20/2009

Finally, Congress is asking for details instead of simply rubberstamping everything Obama suggests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/20/2009
- rwext I'm a Fan of rwext 8 fans permalink

Like em or not... Reagan and Bush made their decisions and got them done, and both had Dem majorities at times

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/20/2009

Yeah, Obama could to but you can't talk about something like this without having a plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/20/2009

Hey Obama . . . it's really simple to get the funds . . .

Tell us what sane people have asked since day, what are you going to do with the people held there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/20/2009
- larce1948 I'm a Fan of larce1948 12 fans permalink

Democrats are most adept at pulling Defeat from the jaws of Victory. They specialize in being a pathetic disappointment. This two party system is a farce.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/20/2009
- StephBr I'm a Fan of StephBr 4 fans permalink
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This was today's cheesy poetry segment with guest larce1948

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 05/21/2009
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 130 fans permalink
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So we shall remain the torture kingdom and allow these prisoners no rights! What a wonderful legacy dear DICK and GEORGE left us and apparently our Senators just love the way things are! Vote all of them out, period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/20/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 230 fans permalink
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Over 10,000 nazis escaped into the u.s. after the war. Many worked in topsecret areas of our government.
http://www.anatheist.net/2009/03/america-the-nazis-2/

Honestly. Of course there should be a PLAN first, but lets stop this nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 05/20/2009
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Obama is Commander-in-chief and he shouldn't need to get funding approval to CLOSE a military prison. This is political posturing at its worst.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/20/2009

Sadly, you can electe 'em, based on there campaign bloviations, but you CANNOT put any spine or A FUNCTIONING BRAIN in 'em.

I am thrilled to hear that Ol 'Fittin' Harry Reid may be on his way out. Kicking this incompetent spineless DINO out is step one in making the 'Democrat' Party into a democratic one.

Don't let Kos or Bowers or any of the other gasbags of the 'sphere tell you any different...

Reid's gotta go!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/20/2009
- JacqueItch I'm a Fan of JacqueItch 6 fans permalink

Once again the Senate shows itself to be nothing more than arch conservators of the militaristic status quo.
I fear for the future of my country.
Those who have identified the extinction of the US Empire coming from internal bankruptcy brought on by the protection racket ("defense of the nation") exceeding the ability of the US to bankroll it have not succeeded in getting this message to the American electorate.
I don't know why people cannot see this for what it has become: a shakedown of the Treasury.

The analogy is the shopkeeper who has thugs walk in and demand money to "keep the place safe" . . . with the veiled threat that if the money isn't given something bad will happen.
At first it's only once a week, and 20 bucks a head.
Then it escalates in frequency and cost.
Now it's daily, and it's up to 100 bucks a head.
The shopkkeeper can no longer afford to stay in business----busted. Savings gone.
Closes the doors.
Thugs retire.

Our current "Defense" budget is actually more than a Trillion/year, and increasing........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 05/20/2009

I think they're trying to put the Genie back into the bottle. It is not the dangerous terrorists that they are concerned with incarcerating, it is the innocent victims of CIA rendition and torture that they're really afraid to bring to US soil. Their identities would be revealed. The protests would be insane. There will be consequence... it's a slow roll out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 05/20/2009

Which is why I don't understand why Democratic Senators don't want Gitmo prisoners here in US. It would expose the hor.rible crimes of the past administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/20/2009
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 30 fans permalink
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Its just like Democrats to rain on their own parade. When things are going good for them they shoot themselves in the foot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/20/2009
- raker I'm a Fan of raker 74 fans permalink

God forbid the Democrats should have a plan before forging ahead with a vote like this. Harry Reid can't seem to do anything effectively.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 05/20/2009
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