Waxman Gives GOP One More Day To Stall On Climate Change

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First Posted: 05-20-09 06:16 PM   |   Updated: 05-20-09 11:26 PM

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WASHINGTON - JULY 16: House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) makes opening remarks about a resolution to hold U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey in contempt on Capitol Hill July 16, 2008 in Washington, DC.

Henry Waxman has had just about enough. The House Energy and Commerce Committee's climate-change bill has been besieged by hundreds of (mostly Republican) amendments all week. Waxman, the committee's chairman, is giving them until the end of Thursday to keep playing around, he told the Huffington Post on Wednesday afternoon.

"They're offering a lot of amendments," Waxman said of committee Republicans, who primarily sought to add giveaways for the coal, hydro and nuclear power industries Wednesday morning. "Some are to try to make political points. They've developed certain themes and they're trying to advance these political themes with many of the amendments they're offering."

House Republicans, for example, called for the word "source" to be replaced with "emission point," going a little gentler on coal plants. Fine, said Democrats. The House GOP is fixated on China and India's climate change policy, and has been trying all week to write them into the bill somehow. On Wednesday, they got their way. The EPA chief will be required to brief members of Congress on China and India's policy once a year.

"I mean, their plan is to try and shut down the process, but I think the signal they're sending is that they're not interested in tackling the nation's energy challenges," said Chris Van Hollen, a member of House leadership who authored a separate climate-change bill.

Still, Waxman (D-Calif.) and Van Hollen (D-Md.) said Democrats will adhere to procedural rules and debate as many amendments as possible. "We may just kind of wait for fatigue to set in," Van Hollen said.

Though many of the amendments have passed with a simple voice vote, the committee spent more than an hour and a half debating the first amendment on its agenda Wednesday: a proposal by Florida Republican Cliff Stearns that sought to allow states to count energy from new nuclear plants toward their renewable energy quotas.

In the wake of a bitterly contentious 14-hour marathon session that ran late into Tuesday night, committee members voiced a desire to keep things more civil during Wednesday's markup meeting. That didn't quite happen.

Much of the early debate was built on compromise, but charges of "socialism" and "political games" were flying freely from the right side of the aisle well before the committee's midday voting recess. Illinois Republican John Shimkus dusted off Lloyd Bentsen's "Jack Kennedy" line, substituting Exelon Corp. CEO John Rowe, to a smattering of groans.

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Toward the end of debate on his amendment, Stearns mockingly implored committee Democrats to break with their party on nuclear power. When Pennsylvania Democrat Mike Doyle replied that he could count on one finger the number of times Stearns had broken with Republican leadership, the room erupted momentarily into a chorus of shouts, broken by laughter when someone quipped, "Which finger?"

Missouri Republican Roy Blunt suggested that a prime motivation for amendments like Stearns' was that his party had essentially been shut out of discussion regarding the bill, and argued that hydro and nuclear power in particular should be considered renewable forms of energy. "Whereas nuclear and hydro are very clean, and very efficient, and very efficacious, they are not new," Washington Democrat Jay Inslee countered. Waxman said Democrats worked out figures and compromises with emergent-industry representatives rather than the opposition party.

Shortly before putting the Stearns Amendment to a vote, Ranking Committee Member Joe Barton (R-Texas) lauded the tone of the debate as an improvement over Tuesday's session. "That finger thing will probably get on YouTube," he said.

But it was Stearns himself who best summed up the ongoing process -- if inadvertently. "You know," he said, "sometimes in debate you can talk too much, but let me just make three points ..."

Reporting contributed by Ryan Grim.


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Henry Waxman has had just about enough. The House Energy and Commerce Committee's climate-change bill has been besieged by hundreds of (mostly Republican) amendments all week. Waxman, the committee's ...
Henry Waxman has had just about enough. The House Energy and Commerce Committee's climate-change bill has been besieged by hundreds of (mostly Republican) amendments all week. Waxman, the committee's ...
 
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- Cryostatic I'm a Fan of Cryostatic 22 fans permalink

Personally, I've had just about enough of Henry Waxman and his drivel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/21/2009
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second that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/21/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

I invite everyone to read, what sent to me Mr. Bladernr1001
“If you want a balanced view of this try this link:
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
In Huffington Post we must discuss this article instead of Republicans, or Democrats stupidity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 05/21/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

“Since the Northern Hemisphere contains the greatest proportion of landmass and land heats more than oceans the Northern Hemisphere summer season causes significant increase in the global mean temperature”
They provide information how men activities change reflection, evaporation, cloud formation, convection forces and wind direction. In these directions, NOT GHG I SEE REAL POSSIBILITIES TO MAKE differences.

“ Water vapor accounts for about 70% of the greenhouse effect, carbon dioxide somewhere between 4.2% and 8.4%.
Much of the wavelength bands where carbon dioxide is active are either at or near saturation.
Water vapor absorbs infrared over much the same range as carbon dioxide and more besides.
Clouds are not composed of greenhouse gas -- they are mostly water droplets -- but absorb about one-fifth of the longwave radiation emitted by Earth.
Clouds can briefly saturate the atmospheric radiation window (8-13µm) through which some Earth radiation passes directly to space (those hot and sticky overcast nights produce this effect - that is greenhouse but has nothing to do with carbon dioxide).
Greenhouse gases can not obstruct this window although ozone absorbs in a narrow slice at 9.6µm.
Adding more greenhouse gases which absorb in already saturated bandwidths has no net effect.
Adding them in near-saturated bands has little additional effect.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 05/21/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 35 fans permalink

Screw the republicans. They will continue to pander to their radical fundamentalist base until the next election when even fewer of them survive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/21/2009
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I fear I know which finger I'd be giving them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 05/21/2009
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 9 fans permalink

What is so surprising is that Waxman continues to push cap & trade legislation when even James Hansen of NASA, the chief proponent of the global warming theory, has denounced cap & trade as a disguised tax and likely failure. Hansen has stated that he hopes the Waxman-Markey bill is defeated. He supports a mere carbon tax on co2 generators. www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/01/scentist-letter-hansen-barack- obama

See Hansen's detailed explanation: www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2009/20090505_TempleOfDoom.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 05/21/2009
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 9 fans permalink

For some reason, you may not be able to go directly to the articles I cited when you click on the links. You may be directed to an article which appeared in HuffingtonPost in January. This article is the one covered by the first link. In addition, if you copy the links and paste them into your browsers and click on them, you will come to the referenced articles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 05/21/2009
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Hansen is a Republican h.ack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 05/21/2009
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When I read your last sentence, I infer you think Hansen's arguing for a minimalistic approach. Instead of imposing cap and trade, you say he wants a "...mere carbon tax on co2 generators." No, he actually argues that cap and trade is ineffectual due to the immediacy of the disaster we're making. Try this:

"...an ineffectual cap-and-trade approach would waste another decade at a time when the threat of passing climate tipping points makes it unconscionable to waste another year." Check out his rationale in his letter to Australia's Department of Climate Change in your second link.

Then, what's this with Mycorrhizae calling him a "Republican hack?" This guy was persecuted by Republicans! In one of the bigger idiocies under Doubwya, a flunkie tried to muzzle Hansen from speaking out on climate change. He went public on the front page of the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/science/earth/29climate.html This was a really big deal, a scandal of outrageous proportions. Isn't what happened to Hansen the driving influence on Obama's new policies centered on ensuring that scientists not be silenced? This guy should get a medal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 05/21/2009
- crayola 08 I'm a Fan of crayola 08 3 fans permalink
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omg that guy make Gollum look like america's next top model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 05/20/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 122 fans permalink
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Waxman? He looks like Colonel Sherman Potter, from M*A*S*H

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/20/2009

Our policy for climate change should not be contingent on China and India. If anything we should set the example and show them the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

Though China IS doing some really good stuff - even in the manufacturing industry.
One great example is the no electricity air conditioning system that's selling like hot cakes globally, but there are many more - both in manufacturing, and government policy.

India's not so progressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/20/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 18 fans permalink

Does Barack know that Californians said no more taxes yesterday. Wait till the average American figures out what this cap and tax bill will cost-let the Tea Parties begin-beware Dems!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/20/2009

Two items for your consideration:

California is one of the most aggressive states in fighting polution.

A recent poll suggests that 60% of Americans would be willing to pay $15/mo on their utility bill to have a clean source of energy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/20/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 122 fans permalink
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I live in a city in California that offers a clean energy choice. For approximately $5-10 more each month for my teeny tiny house, my electricity now comes from wind and solar. There are no words to describe how sane that feels. How comforting it is, each and every day. (My town also has parking lots where you can recharge your electric cars!) With a municipal recycling program that allows for the recycling of virtually everything if you are a careful consumer, a municipal composting program, energy efficient heating, appliances, and lighting and with a city wide electric shuttle, and a nearby train station, I drive less than 75 miles per week and my carbon footprint is just about as low as I can get it without more innovations. Now I'm looking for the car companies, industry, and other polluters to respond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/20/2009
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A recent poll says that a majority of Californians are more than willing to pay more taxes for a sound global climate change policy. We're just waiting on the hicks and christians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/20/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 122 fans permalink
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Are you as tired as I am of being held back by people who either don't care, or don't want to bother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

More black and white thinking.

That's all we see from the right wing now: no rational thought no critical thinking: you simple cherry pick bits and pireces, ignore the context and the wider picture, and pretend that you're making an argument based on reality.

Way to prove the the voters how right we were in throwing your political leaders out of both houses and the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/20/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 18 fans permalink

I don't know how this cap and tax will protect us from climate change-haven't we had climate change for millions of years-but now we are going to stop it-just by paying more taxes. China and India just got to love it-they can overtake US conomy much sooner-thank you Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

Wow.
You people seem to believe you're living in the 1950's.
That can be the only explanation for your staggeringly ignorant know nothing, anti science rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/20/2009
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 41 fans permalink

Green jobs; windmills, solar industry, etc. This is a huge boon for manufacturing in this country and at the same time we can make an impact on climate change! A win/win situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/20/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 18 fans permalink

This cap and trade policy could bring our economy to a standstill-but that's okay-the government will keep growing-creating more jobs. We don't need to create more private sector jobs-the government can hire everybody!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

UG UG.
You're not even trying to sound like you're using your brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/20/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 18 fans permalink

Will cost average family more than $5000 a year in just a few years-bring on the tax Obama-we are ready. As Powell says-we Americans want to pay more taxes! Are we warming now or cooling-please explain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

That's right: you'll REALLY listen to a rational, science-based argument - because instead of using rhetorical questions to prove your anti-science, pro-dark age stance, you're doing your own research on science websites to gain more knowledge.

UUUUGGGGG UGGGGHHHH...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 05/20/2009
- army193 I'm a Fan of army193 9 fans permalink
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Hey isn't the average of Democracy just 300 years. The republican party is working hard along side with the terrorist in making that come true....To­rture/Wire tapping/killing Innocent people/orders from Corporate world, etc.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/20/2009

Excuse me; but the topic is climate change.
If you have an obsessive/­compulsive disorder centered around republicans, try to exercise it on the proper issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 05/20/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

Bring on the Cap and TAX!!!! Obamarx will SAVE you and the planet!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

UUGGG UGGG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/20/2009
- Kateyras I'm a Fan of Kateyras 13 fans permalink

The Republican congress steamrolled over the Democrats, and it was wrong. Now that the Democrats are actually allowing the Republicans to offer ujp amendments, you idiots call them "weak." No, they are debating issues, just like they are suppoed to do. And, the Republican congress was just a rubber stamp for the Cheney administration, which was wrong. Now that the Democratic congress is acting like the co-equal branch of government that it is, the same idiots say that are "slapping" Obama. Honestly people, you need to read your civics books. This is the way it is supposed to work. Eventually the Republicans may even stop all the political grandstanding and actually contribute a good idea or two. One can only HOPE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/20/2009
- cinesimon I'm a Fan of cinesimon 58 fans permalink

Very well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/20/2009
- GunneraGirl I'm a Fan of GunneraGirl 122 fans permalink
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Well done you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 05/20/2009
- Pammy2 I'm a Fan of Pammy2 19 fans permalink

Very well stated, but I'm afraid you're being naive. Republicans will never stop their political grandstanding. It's all they have. Any ability they may have once had to actually work with each other and come up with solutions to problems died long ago - from Alzheimer's disease, I believe it was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/20/2009
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I'm afraid the GOP burned the civic books a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 05/21/2009
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