Pelosi Stands By CIA Charge, Ducks Questions

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First Posted: 05-22-09 01:05 PM   |   Updated: 06-22-09 05:12 AM

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The length of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's opening remarks at a press conference often correlates to the political barometric pressure level. The longer the opening, the worse the pressure.

If the Pelosi-Pressure-Correlation-Matrix is any guide, she was feeling it Friday morning. Her regular Thursday morning briefing with reporters had been pushed to Friday. Pelosi, well aware that the assembled scribes were ready to lob who-lied-to-whom-and-when questions at her, entered the room with a phalanx of what one reporter jokingly referred to as human shields.

On April 23rd, as Republicans pounded her with questions about when she was first briefed about waterboarding and why she didn't object more forcefully, she first took questions from every child in the room for take-your-kids-to-work day; she even asked a few who didn't raise their hands to come up with some.

When she finally took questions from grownups, she responded with an answer that has had Capitol Hill distracted ever since. Pelosi said that she and the others briefed by the CIA "were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used." Three weeks later, she expanded on that denial, saying that the CIA lied to her and others in a September 2002 briefing when they said they hadn't waterboarded detainees yet.

On Friday, she took the podium to hail the accomplishments of Congress and lay out the agenda going forward: health care, energy, financial sector reform. Then she deployed her human shields. Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) took the podium, and offered a soliloquy about the unity of the Pelosi-Hoyer team.

"When do we just start shouting out questions?" wondered one reporter as the minutes ticked by.

Hoyer finished and Pelosi retook the podium, then yielded to Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) who waxed prolific about consumer debt, brandishing a letter he'd received from his credit card company cutting his limit.

Batting cleanup -- and warming up his filibuster skills for his eventual ascension to the Senate -- was Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who had a full page of notes to guide his talk. A recent government report, he said, had found cost overruns in the Defense Department. Those cost overruns must be addressed.

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A reporter squeezed in the room from the back, telling colleagues he'd been watching the spectacle on TV but had to see it for himself.

He was there in time to hear Van Hollen share his thoughts on climate change, health care, credit card reform and fraud in the financial markets. Pelosi added a remark on the need for a commission to study the financial crisis and the importance of education. Then she offered to take a few questions, 30 minutes after the scheduled start of the presser.

She chose her first mark wisely. The press corps groaned as a reporter asked who Pelosi would like to appoint to the financial collapse commission, a question she took her time in answering.

The second question was on the CIA issue. Pelosi stood by her earlier statement but declined to elaborate. "I have made the statement I'm going to make on this. I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment. And what we are doing is staying on our course and not be distracted from going forward in a bipartisan way on jobs, health care, energy for our country. On the subject that you asked, I made the statement I'm going to make. I don't have anything more to say," she said.

Should the CIA officers resign?

"I don't have anything more to say," she said again. "Another subject?"

The next question, straight from left field, asked whether Democrats were hatching their own "K Street Project" modeled after former Majority Leader Tom Delay's fundraising scheme.

There isn't one, she said. With Delay safely dispatched, a Pelosi aide called out "last question!" Laughter erupted from the press corps.

The final question was on her impending trip to China. Pelosi, a fierce critic of Chinese government oppression, will be there for the tenth anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. She'll face intense pressure from human rights activists to stay firm in her tough stance and will be pushed the opposite direction by the Chinese government.

Get comfortable for her opening remarks.


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The length of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's opening remarks at a press conference often correlates to the political barometric pressure level. The longer the opening, the worse the pressure. If the Pe...
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- me again I'm a Fan of me again 29 fans permalink

Time for Madame Speaker to step down, she can't be trusted, lost the confidence of her colleagues and the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 05/24/2009

2002 sucked. If you were thinking with your own brain and spoke out against anything, youd get screamed at by this same republicans as being a terrorist. They railroaded so much crap down our throat and then blocked every attempt to hold them accountable.

Pelosi is in no way responsible for authorizing these actions. It is those who enacted and enforced these policies that need to worry about the legal ramifications.

What Pelosi knew or didnt know in 2002 is irrelevant, she had no power to stop it and all attempts to get more information were blocked for national security issues. Hell Tom Daschle was still the minority leader back then and did everything in his power to obstruct Bush, Pelosi was just a senior rep from California and didnt have nearly the kind of clout she has now.

Keep pushing this point. One day someones going to announce an independent review of all documents and facts and prosecute your beloved republican administrations massive violations of national and international law. And Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of the democrats that had to eat your sanctimonious crap for 8 years will be laughing the whole time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 05/24/2009
- starkcr31 I'm a Fan of starkcr31 14 fans permalink
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She approved them, so yes, she is partially responsible. I can't give someone money and turn around and say they stole it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/24/2009

She didnt approve them, it was approved through executive order because IT WAS ILLEGAL to begin with.

What Pelosi is "guilty" of is what she knew at what time according to the timeline.

They want to roast her for knowing according to some excel spreadsheet (that, frankly, looks like a Freshman college student did in his second day of Excel class) that was generated by the CIA based off notes some 7 years after the meetings were held.

Go look at the "record" thats been proffered. It records that people were in attendance that werent even there, it was physically impossible for them to be there because they were in completely different states at the time of the stated meeting.

So really, the only thing the CIA has to push dirt on Pelosi is a spreadsheet created this year that is based off the "recollection" of the officers who did the briefing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 05/26/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

Let's see if I have this straight; the GOP doesn't give a hoot about all the crimes and misdemeaners of the last administration, but they want to hang Rep. Pelosi out to dry because she may have known something about all the dirty going ons in the Bush/Cheney White House?

Only in GOP La La Land does that kind of logic make any sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 05/24/2009
- starkcr31 I'm a Fan of starkcr31 14 fans permalink
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It makes sense because the democrats are trying to go after the last administration with criminal charges on things that they approved, not to mention she's lying to congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/24/2009
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When growing up I listened to my father, other relatives, family friends and neighbors speak of their experiences during WW2. Torture was what the Nazis and their fascist Japanese allies did; it was conduct beneath consideration for the average American soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine.

Besides the cause we fought for, the fact that torture was *not* a sanctioned, acceptable practice was irrefutable. It remains so to this day, backed up by an overwhelming body of historical evidence.

Any argument that Americans should engage in the same behavior as Al Qaeda terrorists is frankly an insult to the memories of every American who sacrificed in defense of liberty and The Rule of Law starting with the Revolution.

Real Americans do not torture, let alone seriously entertain the idea of doing so, or try to justify such crimes with euphemisms such as "enhanced interrogation techniques­."

We are better than Al Qaeda, and all of the red herring arguments attempting to justify torture being perpetrated by a few like Liz Cheney or her vile father in the name of We The People and against the wishes of the majority of Americans changes none of the facts of the matter, no matter how much Rush Limbaugh and his cultists may wish it were so.

Leland R. Erickson

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 05/24/2009
- DFL I'm a Fan of DFL 36 fans permalink
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Repubs love to go after Nanci because she's a woman and she's from the left coast, they are throwing anything they can think of against the wall to see if it sticks, they are grabbing at straws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/23/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 110 fans permalink

The righty's have taken over HuffPo. These headlines and stories speak volumes about who is posting these stories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/23/2009

Is that to say the lefties own HuffPo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/23/2009
- starkcr31 I'm a Fan of starkcr31 14 fans permalink
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Of course they do. Have you read anything on here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 05/24/2009
- BocaMom I'm a Fan of BocaMom 17 fans permalink

I am afraid Pelosi stupidity and lies can hurt the Obama administration and even turn independent voters to vote Republican again. She needs to resign as Speaker of the House as soon as possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/23/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 110 fans permalink

How can she hurt the Obama Adm.. He was not president during that time it has nothing to do with his Adm. This is a brand new Adm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 05/23/2009
- jazgr8 I'm a Fan of jazgr8 2 fans permalink

I think on this Pelosi is pathetic. Just as pathetic as Cheney on the issue itself. We need to get rid of all the liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/23/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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Great freakin plan. How do we do that ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/23/2009
- jazgr8 I'm a Fan of jazgr8 2 fans permalink

Well, we could start by voting them out when they so obviously lie. Fat chance of that happening in the case of Pelosi though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/23/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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The real question is why are dems complicit in not prosecuting the bush crime family ?

All of this nonsense would be put to rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/23/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

or why the Dems voted DOWN the idea of the so-called truth commissions????

Were the Dems complict in THEIR oversight duties????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/23/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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I believe so yes I do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/23/2009
- garymc8 I'm a Fan of garymc8 33 fans permalink

The CIA under gwbush NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH FOR 8 YEARS. That was daddy bush's presant to little georgie, the SPOILED RICH KID, worst president in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. Anyone else notice how the rethugs are constantly blaming WOMEN for their disgusting, sick actions? Lynndie England, Col. Janice Kaprinsky, Nancy Pelosi? They outed Valerie Plame! cheney knew a man would just beat the $h!t out of him for lying and trying to frame them so he picked on defenseless WOMEN. CH!CKEN$H!T TO THE 5 DEFERMENT CORE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/23/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

"worst president in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD"

Its ok. Let OUT the frustration. Maybe one day when reason comes back to your thinking you will do a lttle reading on Woodrow Wilson or maybe Jimmy Carter.

Didnt the Bush admin PROSECUTE interrorgators who were found to have ACTUALLY broken the law???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/23/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 110 fans permalink

The poster is right. Bush is the worse president in US history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/23/2009

So what's goose is good for the gander.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/23/2009
- starkcr31 I'm a Fan of starkcr31 14 fans permalink
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Where's your proof or this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/03/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 173 fans permalink

I think the headline should be: "I SURVIVED!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/23/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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Survived a Bo*ner attack ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/23/2009
- JulieCarol I'm a Fan of JulieCarol 56 fans permalink
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Why does it even matter what Pelosi knew or when she knew it? She wasn't Speaker of the House in 2002 or 2003. She was in the House minority. And in the throes of 9/11, I'm sure fear had a lot to do with most decisions being made. If she was told that enhanced interrogations were being used on suspected terrorists, and they were trying to get information about future attacks, was she supposed to know that that meant that they were torturing them? She said that that the CIA was vague...an­d I believe her. I'm sure the CIA didn't take the time to make sure she was briefed thoroughly and that everything was clear. Yeah, right.

The fact remains that the Bush administration authorized torture and torture is illegal. Why is the focus shifted to Pelosi? Was she in charge? When she was briefed, was she supposed to stand up to Cheney and the CIA about interrogating terrorists? This is a witch hunt, and it's shameful! Bush and Cheney are responsible for these horrendous, inhumane acts. When are we going to see real justice for what those monsters did to this country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/23/2009

When are we going to see real justice for what those monsters did to this country?

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When we catch them. Word has it OBL and the good doctor are in the tribal region of Pakistan, near the Afghan border.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 05/23/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

Bush authorized torture???

Really??? Where are the memos to support your position???

Waterboarding is NOT torture unless of course you think that we torture are OWN soldiers during training.I find it humorous that Obama reserved onto himself the SAME policies that the Bush admin set in place. Also if it is torture why did Eric Holder have so much trouble with the SAME argument in front of the Judicial committee on Thursday???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 05/23/2009
- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 34 fans permalink

Waterboarding IS torture! Try it sometime!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/23/2009
- kimleehan I'm a Fan of kimleehan 31 fans permalink

Sounds like both her and the CIA just want it to go away but since the republicans don't have anything else, they won't let it go away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/23/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

She is the one that started this mess with her own flapping lips. And then she followed up with more flap, flap,flap culminating with her own news conference a few days ago. Now she is trying to stop digging but doing a very poor job of it cause she just finds it impossible just to shut up.

Imagine the cooperation she is now going to get from the intelligence agencies. If I worked for the CIA, everything I ever said to her would be dated and taped just so she could not say I lied!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 05/23/2009
- Tony Rome I'm a Fan of Tony Rome 2 fans permalink
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You can run but you can't hide, dear!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 05/23/2009
- fallout4U I'm a Fan of fallout4U 30 fans permalink
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It looks like a podium with a head and hands. They made it nice and big to hide behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 05/23/2009
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