Pelosi Stands By CIA Charge, Ducks Questions

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First Posted: 05-22-09 01:05 PM   |   Updated: 06-22-09 05:12 AM

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The length of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's opening remarks at a press conference often correlates to the political barometric pressure level. The longer the opening, the worse the pressure.

If the Pelosi-Pressure-Correlation-Matrix is any guide, she was feeling it Friday morning. Her regular Thursday morning briefing with reporters had been pushed to Friday. Pelosi, well aware that the assembled scribes were ready to lob who-lied-to-whom-and-when questions at her, entered the room with a phalanx of what one reporter jokingly referred to as human shields.

On April 23rd, as Republicans pounded her with questions about when she was first briefed about waterboarding and why she didn't object more forcefully, she first took questions from every child in the room for take-your-kids-to-work day; she even asked a few who didn't raise their hands to come up with some.

When she finally took questions from grownups, she responded with an answer that has had Capitol Hill distracted ever since. Pelosi said that she and the others briefed by the CIA "were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used." Three weeks later, she expanded on that denial, saying that the CIA lied to her and others in a September 2002 briefing when they said they hadn't waterboarded detainees yet.

On Friday, she took the podium to hail the accomplishments of Congress and lay out the agenda going forward: health care, energy, financial sector reform. Then she deployed her human shields. Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) took the podium, and offered a soliloquy about the unity of the Pelosi-Hoyer team.

"When do we just start shouting out questions?" wondered one reporter as the minutes ticked by.

Hoyer finished and Pelosi retook the podium, then yielded to Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) who waxed prolific about consumer debt, brandishing a letter he'd received from his credit card company cutting his limit.

Batting cleanup -- and warming up his filibuster skills for his eventual ascension to the Senate -- was Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who had a full page of notes to guide his talk. A recent government report, he said, had found cost overruns in the Defense Department. Those cost overruns must be addressed.

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A reporter squeezed in the room from the back, telling colleagues he'd been watching the spectacle on TV but had to see it for himself.

He was there in time to hear Van Hollen share his thoughts on climate change, health care, credit card reform and fraud in the financial markets. Pelosi added a remark on the need for a commission to study the financial crisis and the importance of education. Then she offered to take a few questions, 30 minutes after the scheduled start of the presser.

She chose her first mark wisely. The press corps groaned as a reporter asked who Pelosi would like to appoint to the financial collapse commission, a question she took her time in answering.

The second question was on the CIA issue. Pelosi stood by her earlier statement but declined to elaborate. "I have made the statement I'm going to make on this. I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment. And what we are doing is staying on our course and not be distracted from going forward in a bipartisan way on jobs, health care, energy for our country. On the subject that you asked, I made the statement I'm going to make. I don't have anything more to say," she said.

Should the CIA officers resign?

"I don't have anything more to say," she said again. "Another subject?"

The next question, straight from left field, asked whether Democrats were hatching their own "K Street Project" modeled after former Majority Leader Tom Delay's fundraising scheme.

There isn't one, she said. With Delay safely dispatched, a Pelosi aide called out "last question!" Laughter erupted from the press corps.

The final question was on her impending trip to China. Pelosi, a fierce critic of Chinese government oppression, will be there for the tenth anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. She'll face intense pressure from human rights activists to stay firm in her tough stance and will be pushed the opposite direction by the Chinese government.

Get comfortable for her opening remarks.


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The length of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's opening remarks at a press conference often correlates to the political barometric pressure level. The longer the opening, the worse the pressure. If the Pe...
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"A reporter squeezed in the room from the back, telling colleagues he'd been watching the spectacle on TV but had to see it for himself."

Who. The. Hell. Cares.

This sentence is emblematic of the piece of fertilizer that this story is. This is a story about the media's spectacle-making ability. Never mind that there is no there, there; that Pelosi did not devise or authorize torture.

Pelosi did not authorize interrogation sessions that resulted in genital mutilation, permanent brain damage and 100 deaths.

Ignore that and report on reporters not reporting what matters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 05/22/2009
- fictioneer I'm a Fan of fictioneer 19 fans permalink
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I'm officially boycotting reading any further on this fake scandal, because I'm tired of it being played as pageview bait by the news. There are real issues and this is not one of them. Stop treating Pelosi like she's Britney Spears, and stop taking your leads from GOP strategists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 05/22/2009
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“Your comparasion to John Edwards lie regarding an affair is beyond weak. But more to the point if you are watching events unfold there are Congressmen on both sides of the isle that share similar experiences with the CIA. You must have no knowledge of the CIA's history of deceit.”

If the CIA lied, why can’t the crypt keeper Pelosi keep her story straight? She gave 5 different conflicting stories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 05/22/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

LIEING AND PERJURY (Remember "Slick Willy") ARE LEFTWING RIGHTS THAT ALL RIGHTWINGERS SHALL BE CONDEMED FOR! LIBS, LoL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/22/2009
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You must be too young to remember the Nixon and Reagan Administrations. Now that was group, like the Bush administration that would lie about foreign policy all day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 05/22/2009
- postman66 I'm a Fan of postman66 311 fans permalink
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I haven't seen any deviation in Pelosi's story. What I have seen is a reluctance to go after such a nefarious organization. She has certainly given bad interviews, but again the memos that the CIA has released are filled with falsehoods, from having numerous people at meetings they were not at, to the contradictions from other Congressmen. After their history after 9/11 and am very suspicious of their accounts of anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 05/22/2009
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Maybe because of the c.r.a.p.p.y note keeping from the CIA conflicts with what people ACTUALLY remember.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/22/2009
- Phxflyer I'm a Fan of Phxflyer 72 fans permalink
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Five different stories? Really? Please name all of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/22/2009
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I don't doubt for a minute that the CIA may have withheld information. The same CIA that Cheney was using to find information about WMD's. The same CIA that was using water boarding a month before they briefed Congress. The same CIA that Bohner had problems believing if the information he was given as accurate a few years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/22/2009
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Righties don't seem to know the CIA is a group of professional liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 05/22/2009
- starkcr31 I'm a Fan of starkcr31 14 fans permalink
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"Try spell check."

Try not writing sentence fragments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 05/22/2009
- Megan97401 I'm a Fan of Megan97401 17 fans permalink

"Try spell check." is a complete sentence. It's an imperative sentence.

But what can you expect from someone who makes up for his/her lack of intelligence by insulting Pelosi's appearance, nonsensically, I might add.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 05/22/2009
- 123dee I'm a Fan of 123dee 15 fans permalink

Impressed with your knowledge of the English language. Now I regret looking
out the window or at the clock in class. That was a long long time ago and coming
from a blue collar family education really wasn't important. I did look up the
definition of an imperative sentence. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/22/2009
- felisa11 I'm a Fan of felisa11 23 fans permalink

the "you" is understood. it is a complete sentence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 05/23/2009
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 86 fans permalink
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Americans could care less about this story. The Repugs are trying to make it an issue and in another lifetime it would be an issue. But, today, people care about the economy, jobs, money, declining value of their homes. No one - let me repeat - NO ONE cares about this story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/22/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

BUT TRUE AMERICANS DEMAND TRUTH COMMISSIONS! TRANSLATION: LEFT WANTS TRUTH COMMISSIONS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 05/22/2009
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truth commissions...uhg that name jsut bothers me....it sounds farcical
let's just investigate through current committees and subcommittees, then let the justice department bring charges. no special commission is needed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/22/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

LOST YOUR "LUNCH" FOR INVESTAGATION? LETS HOLD A INDEPENDENT "Truth Commission" THAT INVESTAGATES EVERYONE INVOLVED, Bush, Pelosi, Congressional Republicans AND Democrats! OH NO ONLY INVESTAGATE BUSH AND THE REPUBLCANS, LIBS, LoL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 05/22/2009
- postman66 I'm a Fan of postman66 311 fans permalink
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The DOJ and the Congress are perfectly capable of handling the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 05/22/2009
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You can hold whatever type of commission that you want, but it doesn't matter AT ALL who KNEW about it. All that matters is 1.) Who green lighted the torture techniques 2.) Who signed off on the torture techniques, and 3.) Who implemented the torture techniques. THAT is that TRUE issue. I repeat; not who knew what and when, but who thought of it, who approved it, and who carried it out. They all have 1 thing in common; they were ALL part of the GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION, and there is NO WAY that ANYONE can dispute THAT FACT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/22/2009
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Yes, why should Americans care if the Speaker of the House lies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 05/22/2009

The CIA will lie to anyone the president and vice president etc asks it to. Like the Republicans were going to give the straight talk to the Democrats then! They still don't. Get real. They are like any other office in the government. They will say what is in their interest to say. No more no less. It is not the way it is supposed to be, but during the last eight years, what was?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 05/22/2009
- TaxDayMan I'm a Fan of TaxDayMan 9 fans permalink

So form a "bipartisan commission" and find out BUT "That's POLITICAL" TRANSLATION: HURTS LEFT, "Truth Commissions" are "NOT POLITICAL" TRANSLATION: HURTS RIGHT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/22/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

Why do you think dems are suddenly against releasing documents that show who was told and what they were told then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 05/22/2009
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Who said that? Nobody cares but the loser GOP. Scrambling over a red herring.

The question is who had the ultimate authority. And the head guy was bu$h so he is guilty, not Pelosi whom the GOP wouldn't listen to anyway. You guys are really stu.pid @ssh()les and should be sent to a place that has policies you hold dear - Somalia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 05/22/2009

I think she should just stand up and say : You heard what I said.. The CIA did not tell us they were water boarding and that is the last I am going to say on the matter. If you have trouble with the English language then go back to school. DONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/22/2009
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That's actually what she did. "Not giving the answers the press wants to create further scandal" isn't the same as "ducking questions".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 05/22/2009
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Except for the sticky detail that they did tell her they were waterboarding.
Maybe what she should say is that at the time nobody considered it torture. That came along as a politically expedient thing just recently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/22/2009
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Until there is a special prosecutor to investigate the Bush Administration, Nancy Pelosi shouldn't take any further questions regarding the matter. Cheney is on the circuit constantly defending himself, why?
Why doesn't the media ask him any tough questions? The best thing for Ms. Pelosi to do is shut her mouth and cut off the news cycle for this issue. Let the GOP keep calling for an investigation of Nancy Pelosi which is code for the Bush Administration. You can't investigate one without including the other. The GOP doesn't want Pelosi investigated they just want to continue to batter and discredit this woman.
Keep your hear up Nancy!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 05/22/2009
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BUT forming a "bi-partisan" commission to investagate Pelosi's charge is "Political" BUT "Truth Commissions are NOT!?! RIGHT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/22/2009
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Nancy Lied, Terrorist Cried:

"Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002", Washington Post December 9, 2007

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

"The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed...

No formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/22/2009
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Considering that Porter Goss was the head of the CIA at the time of his "so called briefing and that Bob Graham was said to have been briefed on foor occasions, and once he looked at his meticulous recording keeping it is now the one he contends and says waterboarding was not discussed, I would call that WaPo account into serious question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/22/2009
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So, the Washington Post was there at the briefings? I.DON'T.THINK.SO.

Until such time as the CIA releases transcripts of the briefing (which they say they don't have) or the memos they say prove they told Pelosi about waterboarding (which they don't seem to want to do), I will continue to believe Nancy Pelosi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/22/2009
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Go Pelosi!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/22/2009
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If we want the problems to be solved the people as in we the people deserve to know the truth its not a partisan issue its something that congress should do as their duty,if not none of them can be trusted!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/22/2009
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If you think Pelosi is not lying then you obviously believed John Edwards when he rebuffed the media that he had an affair with Reilly. I suppose also that you also believed Hillary Clinton when she said she was shot at while approaching Bosnia. It was good somebody else was on that trip to tell the truth. I guess you also believed Bill when he said he did not have sex with that woman. Hey, the list is long and disgusting and lying is universal regardless of party. Some are biggies though and Pelosi is about to find out some lies have serious consequences.

At this point, until proof is given, we can only speculate. However a person that knows they aren't lying wants to talk about the issue. What is there to avoid. What isn't clear? Now with all her hedging, she is causing further distrust between those in Washington that need to work together. Trust is huge. There is no plan without it. The CIA must be trusted to tell the truth for the sake of all of our lives. If they lied to congress Pelosi, and others that have come to her defense need to put up or admit they were lying. Oh, btw, did Hillary ever actually admit she was lying about Bosnia. I think she said she was mistaken. Is that possible to be confused about being fired at????????? Really?????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/22/2009
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Your comparasion to John Edwards lie regarding an affair is beyond weak. But more to the point if you are watching events unfold there are Congressmen on both sides of the isle that share similar experiences with the CIA. You must have no knowledge of the CIA's history of deceit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/22/2009
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They see and hear only what they want to see and hear. If it doesn't fit into their myopic view of the world, it must not exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 05/22/2009
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Wow, talk about straw men arguments. You are the king of them.

The CIA has lied to us on numerous occasions in the past.

The CIA won't release transcripts of the briefing Pelosi received or the memos they say prove she was fully briefed. Why do you think that is? Why are they withholding proof?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 05/22/2009

If Pelosi has proof that our CIA is lying to congress we have to prosecute. This can not be tolerated, CIA can not be allowed to openly lie to the House and nothing happen from it. What is the point of having the inteligence community if they can not be trusted? The danger is enormous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/22/2009
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the CIA is founded on the basis of lying when needed. Why would they not lie?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 05/22/2009

Then time to prosecute! I want to see them in jail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/22/2009
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3rd in line to the Presidency...

That's just sad (and scary)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/22/2009
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