New York Times:
For many years, unemployment in the United States was lower than in Western Europe, a fact often cited by people who argued that the flexibility inherent in the American system -- it is easier to both hire and fire workers than in many European countries -- produced more jobs.
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“Republicans run on the platform of ‘Government doesn’t work’ and then they get elected and prove it.”
--P.J. O'Rourke
Great quote!!
Nice quote. And he's a conservative too...
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New Main: In Case You Missed It
Bank?
Nope - sorry rich
Financial Interests?
I don't see it as main for very long
Actually, Politicians are the most terrible thing in government. It is happening all over the country as we post. So I agree. If you think that the Democrats do not use the government to enrich themselves and their friends, then Ant, you have no credibility.
-hostzapper
Some Democrats act like republicans.
At a certain point, the power overwhelms the politicians irrespective of party affiliation.
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As you sit and grumble about your lost job, remember that somewhere on the planet, someone with a better education than you has taken your job from you.
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I don't disagree with most of your post, but I don't agree with this part of it, and here's why.
I called my credit card company to switch to a card with a lower interest rate; we got to talking about the weather and i mentioned that it was clear and sunny outside. He said it was raining where he is.
I asked him where that would be, and he said India (I was calling from Canada).
Are you trying to say that the guy in India taking my customer service call has more and better training than his counterpart either in Canada or America?
Jobs get shipped overseas (especially manufacturing jobs) not for more skill and education, but for lower wages and a padded corporate bottom line.
You both make good points. A lot of the outsourced jobs are for lower pay, but the level of education in Europe is far and away better. My children were educated here and in the UK and after moving to the US they both were so far ahead that they both finished school early, the eldest was two years ahead. Which makes us deficient in comparison.
"Private will hire people, just that it took us a long time to get here and there is not instant answer as to how to get out other than time. Throwing money at the problem and adding bloated inefficient government madeup jobs will only prolong situation."
-Ghostzapper
The private sector will not hire in a low demand environment (they'll keep shedding jobs). Demand has to be created somehow.
and that's when Mr. Keynes steps in :-)
What is the productive use or service? Push papers around? What is the Demand? I thought the stimulus was supposed to accomplish that? Logic flaw on your end....
It can't if the private sector is shedding jobs at a faster rate.
good question , you guys sold us on turning the economy into a service economy from a manufacturing economy
B, b, but, how can those Socialist nanny states be more successful than us?
It boggles the mind doesn't it?
Everybody there is covered under health care... Republicans are worse than Ferengi mangaing goverment and giving us our money's worth in services.
The thing is, in Europe, being unemployed sucks, but it isnt a death sentence. Here, you lose your job, you lose you health insurance, you lose your ability to pay rent, buy food, pay for your child's education, etc. These are things that unemployed Europeans dont have to worry about. Sure, they might not be able to live the way they did before they became unemployed, but they can still live.
So what exactly is so wrong with European-style socialism that the right use that term like its an insult?
Just like wa.ter.bo.ar.ding, Republicans have to see for themselves before they have any inkling.
That's just the way it is, I'm afraid.
Let's H2O-bhord the shrub 6 just like mancow experienced.
Perhaps we should do it 183 times just to make sure they understand.
Move there, please.
So 2004...
I would in a heart beat. There is a double standard with regards to work visas. Our's are much more liberal compared to most western European country's guest worker programs.
Not to mention the laws against being homeless.
That is truly the crime, that being poor is basically against the law.
Republicans enjoy lableling humans as "illegals"
I think in their ignorance they equate it with communism.
Ever since I was a kid.......a long time ago.....American economists, politicians and social critics have been predicting the end of European socialism. I'm still waiting for the collapse. In fact, as I've written before, my Italian relatives live pretty good lives...and even though they pay higher takes, they have managed to rebuild their continent into a 21st century place to live. Europeans are not turning in their passports to come live here (contrary to popular folktale).
Capitalism is a great system as long as you're winning. It's not so great when you're not.
Okay, it's 10:30 here. This is what I'm listening to. Not sure about y'all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvdBgJdEzU
Hey Rain:
Me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno
Thanks, bookmarked. :-)
That works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q07iDWL0eM&feature=related
bush is the drunk drivers who crashed the economy... what we're seeing now is the body count from this tragic crash... pesident obama is the paramedic ..don't blame the paramedic for the loss blame the drunk driver...
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Ronald Reagan
-Ghostzapper
Conservatives are the most terrible thing in government because they don't believe in it. They use gov't to enrich themselves and their friends.
Yes, if government is the problem, why do conservatives/Republicans run for office? Also, not only do conservatives not believe in government, they go out of their way to run it badly. Just look at the last administration. A total fiasco.
He is referring to government jobs, not being a representative of the people. Duh
That is part of the plan. To run government so badly, that you will happily accept your new corporate overlords.
Welcome to the new slavery.
Actually, Politicians are the most terrible thing in government. It is happening all over the country as we post. So I agree. If you think that the Democrats do not use the government to enrich themselves and their friends, then Ant, you have no credibility.
Politicians are in government all over the country? OMG....time to PANIC.
Republicans use goverment to attack Americans, the Republican WOD is a perfect example.
Republicans want to destroy government, they despise it, and us...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=drown+government&btnG=Google+Search&aq=o&oq=
Every Republican, every single one of them, has signed a pledge to a man who wants to drown "We the people" for the purpose of generating private profits. It is unethical ideology.
Conservatives have such disdain for government that when they get into office they appoint corrupt cronies and then when they screw up they say - see you can't trust government.
(i.e. Brownie your are doing a heck of a job)
Job fairs are the absolute worst places there are to look for a job and are a complete waste of time. Know where I've had the best luck? Applying online to employers who are hiring direct and not through an agency. Second best luck -- agencies (they have an undeserved bad rap....)
How do companies think Americans will be able to afford any of their products when we are all working at sub-subsistence levels? At some point our backs will be broken. There will be only the haves and the have-nothings.
I don't understand the short-sightedness of a lot of these corporations. Somehow they think that they can continue to have increasing profits even as they drive down the price for labor.
Like Henry Ford said when asked by his competitors why he paid his employees "so much" he replied that he wanted more people to be able to afford his cars. He understood that only when people make a decent wage could they afford to perpetuate his business expansion. He knew that was the best way for him to get even richer.
It won't work.
-Ghostzapper
Then we're doomed because the private is unwilling to hire people in a low demand environment.
deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy leads to disaster
It is the vicious spiral of contracting spending.
Only the government has the wherewithal to correct it.
Private will hire people, just that it took us a long time to get here and there is not instant answer as to how to get out other than time. Throwing money at the problem and adding bloated inefficient government madeup jobs will only prolong situation.
If the gov wasn't throwing money at the problem right now, there wouldn't be any problem, as there wouldn't be an economy.
economic is based in the movement of money and "throwing money at it" as you term it moves money
Thank you Herbert Hoover.
I especially enjoyed its reasoned and nuanced rebuttal.
All 3 words of it.
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Ronald Reagan
Rock Hudson
he was slowly losing his mind
What mind?
And so this is what we are left with, Ghostzapper.
Can you put 2 and 2 together?
pre or post alzheimer's?
From the false god who brought us record deficits and a doubling of the national debt.
Running the government is easy if you have a moral compass and good intentions, right? So why are we diving deeper in to the abyss? If people were confident in the Obama future, they would be out spending money, but they are not.
GoodLawd you are stoopid.
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Now back to your programming.....
LOL!
ROFLMAO! Zing!
GREAT:)
You are convoluted.
Prudence should not be confused with the extravagence of the shrub years that got us here.
Perhaps a nice cup of coffee would help your delusions.
You are spot on. Administration's moves are not confidence building. Obama is at the point right now where he normally runs for his next thing so he can move on. In this case, he actually has to perform.
By design of the Founders, it takes three election cycles to change the direction of the country. We are moving in the correct direction and we are two-for-two ;-)
It's not like you can fix 8 years of disaster in 4 months.
Plus, gasoline has gone up $.40 per gallon in the last 3 weeks in California.
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First Posted: 05-22-09 06:16 PM | Updated: 05-22-09 06:59 PM