Olbermann On Mancow Waterboarding: Hannity "Now Irrelevant" (VIDEO)

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The Huffington Post   |  Rachel Weiner
First Posted: 05-24-09 10:48 AM   |   Updated: 05-24-09 11:52 AM

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MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has pledged that if Sean Hannity submits to waterboarding, he would donate significant funds to a charity of the Fox News host's choice. Hannity, who himself suggested the torture-for-a-cause, has yet to respond. Now he's off the hook. Last week, conservative disc jockey Erich "Mancow" Muller underwent waterboarding with no incentive other than his belief that the procedure wasn't torture. (He came out convinced that it "absolutely" was.)

Olbermann declared the torture debate "over" and promised to donate $10,000 to the charity Veterans of Valor, founded by Sgt. Klay South (who administered the waterboarding to Muller), and withdrew his offer to Sean Hannity.

OLBERMANN: This is where I normally remind Sean Hannity that it is so many days since I took him up on his offer to be water-boarded for charity, without any reply.


But with today's development, the point is moot.

"Mancow Muller" had the guts to put his mouth where his mouth was, and the guts to admit he was dead wrong -- as you saw, he not only said it is torture, but that he had nearly drowned as a boy, and it is drowning, and that he would have admitted to anything to make it stop.

So the offer to the coward Hannity -- a thousand dollars a second he lasted on the waterboard -- is withdrawn.

And to Mancow Muller, whose station's publicity person contacted us yesterday saying she'd heard I'd offered ten thousand dollars to anybody who would do what he did...

You got it. Ten thousand dollars to the military-families charity of the man who did the waterboarding, "Veterans Of Valor."

As to Hannity... you are now unnecessary.

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MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has pledged that if Sean Hannity submits to waterboarding, he would donate significant funds to a charity of the Fox News host's choice. Hannity, who himself suggested the tort...
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has pledged that if Sean Hannity submits to waterboarding, he would donate significant funds to a charity of the Fox News host's choice. Hannity, who himself suggested the tort...
 
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Mancow being a shock jock, and having listened to him myself a few years ago, I know he can be full of it in a big way. This was another example of that. But I did notice something during his 'waterboarding' that was not present in the other genuine article vids of waterboarding. Forget the perfect angle gimmick others spout of, what I am talking about is the rag that should have been covering his mouth, allowing water to slowly drip into his throat and cut off his breathing through the mouth. The way he had it done, he was able to breathe whenever he felt the water wasn't poured directly over his mouth, or could simply close his mouth. In the genuine article, water was constantly dripping into the nose and throat, preventing the subject from breathing at all. That probably was Mancow's undoing, trying to breathe in that gap and getting a lungful of water; well, that and he was probably the wrong person to try that knowing he had supposedly drowned when he was young and would freak a bit earlier than most who had never experienced that.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 05/29/2009
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cardtosser has it right

"If torture makes us safe, why isn't it used all of the time? We wouldn't need courts, just waterboard all suspects until they tell us the truth, even if it takes a hundred times. The truth is torture does not make us safe. That is why the founding fathers decided that torture should not be used by these united states.

IF torture worked, was humane we would have adopted it for everything and shut down our court system. The fact is IT doesn't work and shouldn't be part of our Justice System.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 05/27/2009

sorry, keith, no one invited you to the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 05/27/2009
- shastacola I'm a Fan of shastacola 12 fans permalink
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Was there a party? Where?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 05/27/2009

This story would've been a lot more interesting if they'd have waterboarded Bubba the Love Sponge...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/26/2009

I love it...being able to say, "you are now unnecessary."

Like most GOP suck ups, he called them out, and they slowly faced the shadows outside of the cave.

Hannity the tool....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/26/2009
- marvm I'm a Fan of marvm 2 fans permalink

GEE mancow called sean and told him it was torture it was on keith O show this evening he also said his chest hurt for 2 days so now it sean time to get on board for his time GEE he dont talk about this subject any more chickenhawk and no hope for elrushbo and the other rethugs to get on board

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/26/2009
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I did not care for him on sportscenter and I certainly do not like it when he gets to spray venom on his own sqwakbox. Talk about insignificant. Just because he can muster a triple digit IQ does not make him a voice of the people. I find him intelligent and offensive which also makes him mean. To those that you influence with your vile comments Keith Olberman I say shame on you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/26/2009

Please get over your delicate sensibilities. Where were you for the past eight years when all you heard on all forms of media was the Right Wing bashing the left? Now the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak and you are "offended". Get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 05/27/2009
- fdrrules I'm a Fan of fdrrules 4 fans permalink

i just love the conservatives,they are all such big cowards.I"m suprised they get anything done hiding under their beds all the time.The only animals that use torture are those who have no respect for the law or humanity,they are animals plain and simple.Our constitution prohibts it,democratic nations world wide condemn it.Military experts say it doesn't work and this is why our constitutioon forbids it so police don't exact false confessions.If Bush had listened to the cia who warned him 9 11 was coming we won't be in this situation and spending extra billions on homeland security an agency which wasn't needed.i don't feel safer under a government that tortures its people,in fact i feel less safe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/26/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 43 fans permalink

Obama reserves the right to use waterboarding because he knows just as president Bush knew that extreme measures sometimes have to be used. For all you goodie two shoes out there you would be the first ones sqealing like little piglets for the use of it if it was the difference between saving your lives or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 05/26/2009

Um, no. In case you didn't get the memo, Obama has banned the use of waterboarding in interrogation of detainees. The DoD has not said whether it will continue to permit it as part of SERE training but that is a different issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/26/2009

Are you just gonna bark, li'l puppy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/26/2009

The actual interrogators that came in contact with the media said that torture was an ineffective method that only provides a feedback of what the interrogators tell them to say (i.e. provide a connection of Iraq to 9/11after being told by an interrogator to say that Iraq was connected to the attack on the World Trade Center). Instead it has been confirmed by the interrogators that they got information through other means of cooperation. And considering the fact that torture is being represented as an effective method by the likes of Bush-Croney George Tenet (head of CIA under Bush) pro-torture advocates really don't have much of a leg to stand on.

One more thing. Considering the fact that the U.S. army can't suppress violence in the Middle East forever, through military occupation, and that we need moderate politicians to control strong centralized governments in the Middle East to keep the peace once we're gone, it just doesn't make sense that America should be using a means of interrogation (torture/w­aterboardi­ng) that bolsters the power of fundementalists and forces moderates underground (i.e. the method of waterboarding tarnishing the reputation of the U.S. to a point where taking a direction of goodwill towards us and our western allies becomes indefensible by most Middle Eastern leaders).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/26/2009
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SERIOUSLY Barksalot????

It's really sad that we have people in this country that can't even understand when someone like our president who CLEARLY states that he is AGAINST waterboarding, to take that and percieve it as the complete opposite. But then that's what most Republicans do isn't it? It's so sad to see the GOP in such a state of confusion and anger and hatred....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 05/27/2009
- lolcopter I'm a Fan of lolcopter 2 fans permalink

"he would have admitted to anything to make it stop."

This is the biggie. It doesn't have to be something disgusting and violent to be torture. Any method in which the culprit would be inclined to lie to stop the process cannot be legitimized as a valid interrogation technique.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 05/26/2009
- 1murillo I'm a Fan of 1murillo 21 fans permalink

One's right to speak or write about waterboarding is not related to one's willingness to be treated this way. If the validity of our comments are measured by our firsthand experience in the event in question, then few of us could comment on most stories. Example, only murder victims should be allowed to speak on murder and how it should be legislated.

Of course waterboarding is torture. Whatever discussion currently exists is about how the GOP can take this black eye, swing at the Democratic Party, while simultaneously preventing its present and past leaders to be prosecuted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/26/2009
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This is so cool.

Olberman, Hannity, Maddow, Rush, Glen Beck....I love them all.

I feel 30 years younger....like I'm in high school again.

This is so great!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/26/2009

Hannity irrelevent...unless you look at the ratings! lol http://theclosetconservative.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/26/2009

The only way Keith Olbermann can get any attention on here is when he's talking about Sean Hannity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 05/26/2009
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 42 fans permalink

lol -- proudly conservative? aprapo i guess because the pre-requisite for conservatism is willful ignorance.

i mean look at the statement... about the guy who kicks billo's a$$ in the 18-45 (the only one that really matters) demo day after day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/26/2009
- Read Books I'm a Fan of Read Books 11 fans permalink

I am getting bored with the mindless liberal attacks.

Can't you guys (in4success, lokipuck) come up with something more intelligent than an ad hominem attack on ProudlyCon­servative4­2)? Instead, by attacking ProudlyCon­servative4­2's character, you are merely validating a common liberal stereotype.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 05/26/2009
- lammassu I'm a Fan of lammassu 9 fans permalink

Yeah, because this article is clearly about Olbermann's ego and not the chicken hawks on faux news puffing their feathers while defending torture. The GOP DO believe in the Constitution don't they? Or is only when it suits your own ends?

Cherry picking the U.S. Constitution, its the Conservative way! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 05/26/2009
- shastacola I'm a Fan of shastacola 12 fans permalink
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Thank you, the conservative mantra ,as always, is "when all else fails,change the subject".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/27/2009
- 9liberal I'm a Fan of 9liberal 28 fans permalink
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and ko did donate money to a charity so keith literally put his money where his mouth is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 05/26/2009
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