France To Obama: "Yes You Can... Do A Lot More" On Environment

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ANGELA CHARLTON | May 26, 2009 03:20 PM EST | AP

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US Special Envoy for Climate Change Todd Stern reacts during a press conference in Paris, Tuesday, May 26, 2009. The French host of climate talks among the world's biggest polluters said Tuesday that the United States had backpedaled on promises to slash carbon emissions but China appeared "absolutely determined" to make deep cuts. The environment chiefs are also discussing how to raise $100 billion a year to help poor countries adapt to climate change. (AP Photo/Jacques Brinon)

PARIS — The world's biggest polluters made progress on a global deal to finance efforts to fight global warming and help poor countries cope with it, the French hosts of climate talks said Tuesday.

However, the environment ministers and top climate officials from 17 nations gathered in Paris appeared to make little headway toward agreement on how deeply to cut their emissions of gases that contribute to climate change.

The top U.S. negotiator on climate change, Todd Stern, defended the Obama administration's commitment to what he called a "seismic change" in the country's carbon emissions and attitude toward fighting global warming. Earlier Tuesday, France and Germany had said the United States wasn't going far enough in its emissions targets.

Despite such differences, French Environment Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said glimmers of progress emerged at the end of two days of closed-door talks.

The countries present moved forward "in an extremely significant way" in talks on how to pay for technology and new energy sources to help poor countries limit pollution and adapt to climate change, Borloo said. He said everyone came together behind a Mexican financing proposal that includes a formula to calculate who pays and how much.

Borloo said details were still being worked out. Negotiators have estimated helping poor countries cope with rising sea levels, harsher storms droughts and other global warming-related shifts would cost about $100 billion a year.

Getting poor countries on board is crucial to efforts toward a global climate pact meant to succeed the Kyoto Protocol. The talks of the Major Economies Forum on Monday and Tuesday were among several this year ahead of a U.N. meeting in Copenhagen in December on the climate pact.

Stern said the United States doesn't "have any objections" to the Mexican proposal and welcomed ideas emerging at this week's talks.

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"We advanced the ball, though we have a long way to go to get to Copenhagen," Stern said.

The United States never signed on to Kyoto, citing the costs to the economy and the lack of participation by developing countries such as China. Developing countries, meanwhile, have said rich countries are not being aggressive enough in cutting their own emissions even as they ask poor countries to make costly commitments.

The Obama administration had suggested a 14 percent to 15 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from 2005 levels by 2020, and legislation before Congress would reduce such emissions by 17 percent by 2020.

Stern said the overall U.S. targets were on a par with what Europe is proposing though are calculated differently.

"I don't think they are going to match. I don't think they need to match," he said.

The EU has promised to cut emissions by 20 percent of 1990 levels by 2020.

Borloo said the next meeting of the Major Economies Forum is in Mexico June 22-23.

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Associated Press writer Tobias Schmidt contributed to this report.

(This version corrects US target to 17 percent, not 20 percent)

PARIS — The world's biggest polluters made progress on a global deal to finance efforts to fight global warming and help poor countries cope with it, the French hosts of climate talks said Tuesd...
PARIS — The world's biggest polluters made progress on a global deal to finance efforts to fight global warming and help poor countries cope with it, the French hosts of climate talks said Tuesd...
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- mikefina I'm a Fan of mikefina 47 fans permalink

Exactly WHEN did France meet its pledged goal pursuant to the Kyoto summit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/26/2009
- Cyberoptic I'm a Fan of Cyberoptic 7 fans permalink

To see what can be done for the environment in the U.S. look at this website:

http://www.friendsofgaviotas.org/Home.html

Read about what was done in eastern Colombia. We could do the same thing in Wyoming, Eastern Oregon, Idaho, parts of California, wherever. They took barren lifeless land and you can see what they turned it into, 20,000 acres of life.

We argue about details of Kyoto, they are dealing with the real world, making it work.

They have an agro-industrial cooperative. They took scientists, peasants, kids from the streets, and did this together. Everyone gets fed, and they have no jail.

Let's not continue to give our power to politicians and corporations. American can do this. There are scientist who would be thrilled to do this. We have the workforce available, skilled farmhands, and volunteers, and American ingenuity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/26/2009
- JnrNorman I'm a Fan of JnrNorman 6 fans permalink

Obama loves new coal electric plants, mountain top removal,GMO seeds,Corn subsidies (pesticide­s$fertiliz­er)ETC ETC.
LEGALIZE HEMP LETS HAVE A REAL CLEAN ECONOMY NO WHAT BARACK WANTS!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 05/26/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

protagonia: “Humanity is splitting along these lines, between the well informed and the poorly informed.”
Dear protagonia, you are missing “well informed by wrong information”. This kind informed persons repeat mistakes of Al Gore and scientists who provide him with information. Usually they are belonging to Democrat or Republican parties. Their follower in Europe could belong to others parties.
As Democrat, as Republican for some reason make from science of global warming circus for debate.
If Democrat seeing only carbon dioxide as reason, Republican arguing about the same carbon dioxide. Republican is only diminishing role of mankind in producing carbon dioxide.
Please stop nonsense.
It is not only carbon dioxide or other GHG.
It is winds and their direction, which send hot air to cloud level.
It is reflection, which send short wave back to space.
It is huge convection forces.
It is cloud formation.
It is ocean streams.
It is properties of water and ice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/26/2009
- justmeinAz I'm a Fan of justmeinAz 18 fans permalink
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There is not a single correctly formed sentence in this comment. Not one. That doesn't lend credibility to your whole "not informed" angle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/26/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

Dear justmeinAz, You are not first person, who remind me that English is not my native language:
Dear BrettnCalgary, I respect Al Gore, He is a good writer, not scientist. He brings attention to global warming better than anybody else does. He and his advisers-scientists have right to make their parts of mistakes. I am as reader has right on my own opinion about any subject. I am not a denial. I am agreed with Al Gore demand keep “Earth in the balance,” 1992.
I am disagreeing with him that GHG are the main players in Nature. I disagree with him how to reduce GHG if they are problem. As I wrote it before I have BS in Physics, and worked 25 years as Designer Engineer in huge Company with 15.000 employee and 2000 Engineers. I am retired and more than 5 years studying Global Warming, peak oil production, weather disasters in North America. I solved these problems 4 years ago despite I have not Ph.D. in a climate discipline.
I am sure that I am right in my understanding of problems and solutions how to make these businesses profitable.
“Next, lets try and make sense of your denial talking points so they can be easily debunked.”
Please keep in mind: “I am not a denial.”
Let start “debunked” process:
Please explain to me: “Why in Hawaii, which close to equator temperature is 70-85º F, while in Texas in summer time 85- 110º F?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 05/26/2009
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