Dem Senators Open To Allowing Innocent Chinese Detainees To Live In U.S.

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First Posted: 05-27-09 04:45 PM   |   Updated: 05-27-09 07:52 PM

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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states.

But a group of 17 Chinese Muslims have been cleared by the Bush administration and aren't looking for a prison to lock them up -- they need a community to take them in.

The Huffington Post asked senators how they'd deal with what should be a simpler problem but politically could be more difficult: What about the Uighurs?

"This has just been such a horrible situation for these people," said Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the third-ranking Democrat. "They have been pilloried by people on the floor of the Senate, but most believe, most people I have heard from suggest that they should be returned, but the question is no one will take them."

Why won't we take them?

"I don't know. We may be in a position where that will be considered, but I leave that up to the administration. I just don't know," he said.

Several senators began answers with the premise that the Uighurs were not a threat, but transitioned while they spoke to keeping them in prison.

"I think anybody who is declared not to be a threat is not. We have plenty of places to hold people. We have maximum-security prisons that nobody is ever going to get out of. That's just a fact," said North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan.

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"There are going to be detainees that are not going to be able to be tried, for whatever reasons, and are going to have to be released. The question is where. And I think that's an issue that we need to talk about, because in some cases their native countries are not accepting them for whatever reasons. I think there are more options than just the United States, and I think we need to look at all the options," said Sen. Ben Cardin, a Democrat who represents Maryland, a state neighboring the Northern Virginia Uighur community that has volunteered to take them.

"I would not exclude the United States," said Cardin.

"I'm open to discussion on that. I don't know enough details to know," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

Sens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) are the leading Republican theorists on detention policy in the Senate. Both said the Uighur situation could only be resolved by the implementation of a comprehensive policy that covered all detainees.

"There's no policy. Again, we've got to have a policy," said McCain. "I'd be willing to negotiate with the White House to try to work out all these issues."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had taken a hard line on detainees earlier last week, saying that none could be transferred to the United States, not even to prisons. He dialed that back a bit in a recent interview with the Las Vegas Sun.

But the best he would do is say the Uighurs "probably" don't belong in maximum security prison.

"There's no question that a number of these people who are there are not guilty of anything. The Uighurs, these are a group of Muslim Chinese who are guilty of nothing. They were arrested, put in there. They are there. They are doing nothing. We're going to have to find someplace to put them. We can't send them back to China. Should they go into a maximum-security prison? Probably not," he said.

The Uighurs themselves aren't optimistic that they'll be released anytime soon, they told their translator recently. "If we are the innocent ones from day one -- and for the past six years, and the government knew we were innocent -- if we are still here, how he is going to deal with the 240 prisoners and shut down the base by next January?" their translator says they wonder. "They're a little bit skeptical about it actually happening."


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I vote that we send them to Alaska to live next to Sarah Palin. She is used to keeping an eye on the Russians, so keeping tabs on a few detainees should be no problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Sarah's witch doctor won't approve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009

Moose stir fry? Yum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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They're vegetarian­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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She also has experience with China. Someone mentioned Red China to the WasillaWackjob, and she launched into a discussion of how lovely it looks with yellow napkins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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LOL

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This is true!! Too funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/27/2009
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Hahahahaha­hahahahaha­haha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/27/2009
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I'm thinking her table has white paper KFC napkins with rubberbanded plastic utensils

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/27/2009
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You betcha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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So that bridge to nowhere can be one to somewhere.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 05/27/2009

Whats the difference between the dems and the repubs ....?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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ALL repubs are @ssH oles, only some dems are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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ding!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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Colin Powell, Jack Kemp, Barry Goldwater,just to name a few.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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life and the loss of liberty...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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Not all criminals are Republicans, but all Republicans are criminals.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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Is that you, dean?

Now you're taking up for Pinto? How sad. I'm hurt. Hurt I say that you could do that to me.

{sigh}

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/27/2009

ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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partisan is big in your world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/27/2009
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None. Demopublicans are pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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So why did Conservatives elect a self-admitted untreated alcoholic to the Office of the President?

Oh yeah, because they wanted to have a beer with him...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/27/2009

Wasnt Obama a co ke add ict too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Yeah like Michelle and three kids is going to work out with a coke habit.

Better find some more hate lie smear... That won't stick either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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ur projecting­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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If you've had a few drinks in your life, that makes you an alcoholic?
Pisspoor logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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In a word, NO. Now, go to your room and do your homework.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 05/27/2009
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Yes, he admitted it too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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He had spunk.

And then there was that aura of machismo missing in the neo cons lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009

Heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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no, So why did ***WE*** elect a self-admitted untreated alcoholic to the Office of the President?

Oh yeah, because WE wanted to have a beer with him...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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Personal responsibility is not a big thing among the left: self righteousness mandates that it is always someone else's fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/27/2009

Yep. Kind of points out the lun-acy of Repubs, don't it? heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 05/27/2009
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obama is a coke fiend

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 05/27/2009
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It would be surprising if you really believed that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 AM on 05/28/2009
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had taken a hard line on detainees earlier last week, saying that none could be transferred to the United States, not even to prisons.

Reid, the Dem's guiding light.....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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i think that $2 million straightened him up last night

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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is it 2009?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/27/2009
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1300.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/27/2009
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Nope. Not in the Mayan calender. Cultural elitiist

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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speaking of which.....­If the universe is electrical (instead of the current problematic gravity based model), then we should expect some sort of plasma event 2012 as our solar system passes from the lower (negatively charged) plane of the Milky Way Galaxy through its center and up into the positively charged area.

In fact, it is thought that a lot of debris occupies the central plane, so it will be interesting either way, gravity or electrical.

See U all there!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 05/27/2009
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To the "furious Key-boarders, G'evening.

The prisoners.

Who wants - as an innocent man - to be held "ad vitam aeternam," knowhing that what made you guilty, is your religion.
Those China men are innocent apparently. So, how in the name of "justice," we would still holding them there, or anywhere else as prisoners.
So, the story behind the story is. We arrest few guys for X reason, we do to them what ever we had to do to them, and oops! Ohhhh! They are innocent. . .I mean really innocent.

Here we are now, holding a group of man, perfectly innocent, whom we are afraid of, as "freeman," in our country (total xenophobia).
Yes, we need to remind everybody that, we cannot send them back home, to China. Because the Chinese government has also a problem with their own Muslims. Therefore those men would be held, retor-tured and lost in an archaic justice system, to never be found again.
What a mess. But, what a need of justice there is right there. Specially after destroying their lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/27/2009

A group of man....?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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"The 17 terror suspects imprisoned in the US military base of Guantanamo Bay are members of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, which has been listed as a terrorist organisation by the United Nations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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Ah, xenophobia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6DLGShOnEg&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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"The 17 t.error s.uspects imprisoned in the US military base of G.uantanam­o Bay are members of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, which has been listed as a t.errorist organization by the United Nations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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Of course, and the Dalai Lama is one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 05/27/2009
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It is done to innocent people in the US also, lives ruined, kids ruined, all for a group of monsters who want to elevate themselves politically. Too greedy, too pathological to be decent enough to let people have their lives, and a decent life.

For others, people in the US do not have a good scope of history, they do not understand how events unfold, or areas of conflict. For most people they respond to 'sound bites'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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So now I have to question what's in my eggrolls?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 05/27/2009
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If I had to to cook them, you wouldn't have to guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/27/2009
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LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Lots is melamine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/27/2009
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You have never had anything but pablum, who are you trying to kid ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/27/2009
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you ...mean eggtr0lls

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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In that case the answer is human feces...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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I think Bush spent the greater part of his Presidency wrapped around a bottle of Jim Beam that Cheney handed to him. He appeared to only sober up for the press, and even then he looked shakey and badly hung over.

I could be wrong, but that is my guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/27/2009
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But, did he smoke cigarettes, and was a captive of big tobacco? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/27/2009
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There could have been a little of the ..'sniff, sniff' ..white powder in the Oval Office too. Don't forget Dubya's history.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/db/Bushcoke.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/27/2009
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Faved, I was already a fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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That was his nightcap. Laura used ph@rmaceuticals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 05/27/2009
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I'm not sure. Something definitely changed with him. I'm inclined to believe that he realized that his father was right: he really was a scre.w up.

By the time he left office he knew he ruined the place. The booing he received at the inauguration must have been devastating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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If we make english the official language we can sort out these non american types.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/27/2009
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I really like your posts lorne. I really do.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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Wrongo. Puerto Ricans speak English (although they may be US citizens, they are still sort of ferin), and as do a bunch of other Caribes. I'm thinking we do a DNA sort of thing. X amount of blood this, or that, you get in, and you get to be a "minority" based on your DNA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/27/2009
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I know lorne was snarking. You? Not so sure, but I'm hopeful. Cause if not, that was one nasteeee post Rumple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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You are just the best! :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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OH look, Gabu's here tonight, too, also. It's a full house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009
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looney toones...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/27/2009

Oh look its YOU

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Another sock? Wow, you really must have been upset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Jokers wild.

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Right wingers should start forming anti Uighur Militia groups straight away.

We are under attack , call to arms !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
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Right-wingers prefer the position of Armchair Generals..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/27/2009
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And Armchair Subversive­s....

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/27/2009

Whats a right winger?

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And a "wide stance."

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KitzCaboose is a name tr0ll who got b@nned last Friday for that very comment among others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
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Thanks. Were you a tattletale as a kid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009
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Were you an @ss?

Oh wait...of course you were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/27/2009
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Kit's being accountable.

Does that bother you?

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So, after we bombed Tora Bora, the gitmo Uyghurs were unable to find their brothers in Pakistan.

At its peak in 2001, the 055 Brigade had an estimated 2,000 soldiers and officers in the ranks. The brigade was comprised of Arabs, Central Asians, and South Asians, as well as Chechens, Bosnians, and Uighurs from Western China.

The 055 Brigade has "completely reformed and is surpassing pre-2001 standards," an official said. The other brigades are also considered well trained.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/02/al_qaedas_paramilita.php

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So you are afraid of a bunch of guys that the Bush adminstration cleared as not being any threat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/27/2009
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no, WE are afraid of a bunch of guys that the Bush administration cleared as being innocent from day one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009
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Who, me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/27/2009

May is Asian-Pacific American Heritage Month...fy­i

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/27/2009
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I'm waiting for Celtic-Nat­ive-Americ­an month. We eat a lot of weird food and then sweat it out and have visions of coyotes, n stuff. Peyote is optional, and may be replaced by lotso pints of stout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/27/2009
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I thought that was christmas

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good to hear....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009

Thanks,my daughter is Asian.

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Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009

: )

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They look different from us and talk funny. We should keep them locked up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
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And the food they eat!!!!

NOT from the previously listed tro////ie diet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/27/2009
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and wood sticks? I am sooooo sure! like who thought up that silly fad?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
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all of the alaska or just the palin's...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
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Just the fishermen.

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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/27/2009
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Yea, and they look the same, too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6DLGShOnEg&feature=related

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